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Has anyone heard this song?

Now I dont like to go around bashing genres of music that I'm not heavily into, but holy heck this song is absolute rubbish. I cant imagine what kind of person could listen to it and enjoy it. For it to be a single of any form I cant begin to think what the quality of the rest of the record is like!

I was quite a fan of rap through the 90's but pretty much after Dre's 2001 record I havent heard anything remotley progressive or decent come out of the LA scene. I dont really understand what the appeal is anymore!?!

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Rap right now looks a lot like mainstream rock in the 80's (hair metal) -- style over substance and everyone trying to get a piece of the action etc etc. It all blossomed out of really legitimate acts too -- in rap's case it was the groups like NWA, Public Enemy, Eric B./Rakim and all those guys and in hair metal's case it was all the great 70's metal acts.

It seems like any black dude can rent an Escalade, get a looped sample going with some bass and get signed to a record deal nowadays for some throwaway single.

The fact that Buy You A Drank exists and is on the iTunes top ten is a failure of humanity, and the fact that Party Like A Rock Star by the Shop Boyz is #4 is far beyond horrifying.

I think rap needs someone to take it back to the basics while still innovating -- I think Kanye West does some neat stuff, but one guy isn't enough. That said I wouldn't mind if rap went out of style and something else took over -- this whole hip-hop craze has dominated popular music for like 9 years now and it's getting old :). Rock needs to reclaim it's place, but to do it it'll really need a new band to come along and really shake things up. Nickleback is the current top dog in the mainstream rock scene -- AND THEY WONDER WHY RECORDS SALES ARE IN DECLINE?!

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50 cent is crap music and all, have you ever watched his movie? He wanted to show the horrors of living on the street but makes himself look like a hero and makes it look cool to sell crack and kill people.

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i like him. he's not out there pretending like he's fucking y'know, John Lennon, he just makes these cool little tracks that suit in the club and he's a guy enjoying his wealth and making his living, can't really fault him. although that movie i got to say was SO crap. i dont know, i mean outside of the "it glorified this" or "is it a bad influence" these just seem total non-issues because the thing is like a fucking, just beyond awful. he's not the greatest rapper of all time, but he's ok y'know, for the charts, good enough to tide things over, i wouldn't go out of my way to buy any of his albums, he just seems to be like, a well rounded Tupac character without any substance. i remember first hearing him on "How To Rob" with the Madd Rapper and its such a funny song he's talking about how he's gonna rob every rapper and throughout this song he's just name checking all these rappers and talking about how he's gonna rob them and i remember thinking to myself this guy cant rap, his best bet is to be controversial but he didnt even do that well, just went into that playa/gangsta/ballin thing, whatever, good for him, dont really have a great deal of regard for him but nothing against him either so much.

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Today, if you can pretend your a pimp, kill people, do drugs and carry guns around you'll get a multi album contract. Whereas if you can actually rap but you dont do the aformentioned, you wont be getting signed. Off the top of my head i can only think of two rappers who i actually have some respect for, Dr. Dre & 2Pac. Other than those two i cant think of any rapper who i could listen to without wanting to shoot myself, or better yet shoot them.

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i like him. he's not out there pretending like he's fucking y'know, John Lennon, he just makes these cool little tracks that suit in the club and he's a guy enjoying his wealth and making his living, can't really fault him. although that movie i got to say was SO crap. i dont know, i mean outside of the "it glorified this" or "is it a bad influence" these just seem total non-issues because the thing is like a fucking, just beyond awful. he's not the greatest rapper of all time, but he's ok y'know, for the charts, good enough to tide things over, i wouldn't go out of my way to buy any of his albums, he just seems to be like, a well rounded Tupac character without any substance. i remember first hearing him on "How To Rob" with the Madd Rapper and its such a funny song he's talking about how he's gonna rob every rapper and throughout this song he's just name checking all these rappers and talking about how he's gonna rob them and i remember thinking to myself this guy cant rap, his best bet is to be controversial but he didnt even do that well, just went into that playa/gangsta/ballin thing, whatever, good for him, dont really have a great deal of regard for him but nothing against him either so much.

Interesting comments there, kind of shows that you are quitley championing modern rap, which is an interesting stance to take. I got the impression the majority of classic rappers and DJ's are rather disillusioned with the mainstream at the moment and a lot of them have been forced underground for attempting to be innovativew, what are your views on this? Seems to me that the record industry is really bleeding this genre for its image while totally overlooking its content.

P.S. Why the subtle change in profile name?

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i like him. he's not out there pretending like he's fucking y'know, John Lennon, he just makes these cool little tracks that suit in the club and he's a guy enjoying his wealth and making his living, can't really fault him. although that movie i got to say was SO crap. i dont know, i mean outside of the "it glorified this" or "is it a bad influence" these just seem total non-issues because the thing is like a fucking, just beyond awful. he's not the greatest rapper of all time, but he's ok y'know, for the charts, good enough to tide things over, i wouldn't go out of my way to buy any of his albums, he just seems to be like, a well rounded Tupac character without any substance. i remember first hearing him on "How To Rob" with the Madd Rapper and its such a funny song he's talking about how he's gonna rob every rapper and throughout this song he's just name checking all these rappers and talking about how he's gonna rob them and i remember thinking to myself this guy cant rap, his best bet is to be controversial but he didnt even do that well, just went into that playa/gangsta/ballin thing, whatever, good for him, dont really have a great deal of regard for him but nothing against him either so much.

Interesting comments there, kind of shows that you are quitley championing modern rap, which is an interesting stance to take. I got the impression the majority of classic rappers and DJ's are rather disillusioned with the mainstream at the moment and a lot of them have been forced underground for attempting to be innovativew, what are your views on this? Seems to me that the record industry is really bleeding this genre for its image while totally overlooking its content.

P.S. Why the subtle change in profile name?

closed account, re-opened. thinks like that are better underground for work their ways up. history have proven that true innovation rarely takes place in the open anyway. these things go in circles and the real ruff n raw underground is there for those who seek it.

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50 Cent is a sham, wearing his bulletproof vest like people are out to kill him. Yeah, whatever.

His music sucks to. "In The Club" has to be about the most boring track ever.

BTW, this is where he lives: http://www.luxist.com/2007/05/20/50-cents-...ate-of-the-day/

You guys think he wears the bulletproof vest while he swims in his indoor pool?

the guys been shot 9 times, his boy from whatever his crews called i dont recall yeah g unit went uptown, theres no denying the guy was a G back in the day. fair dues, he aint now and the bulletproof vest angle is kind of an affectation but you gotta bear in mind the shit he raps about, you talk all that shit and one day some ones gonna call you out on it.

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50 cent is rubbish all together.

duff21

I agree, 50 Cent sucks ass!

Yer 50 Cent does suck ass big time!!!! The video of him getting bottled off stage at Reading Festival 2004 in the UK is fucking hillarious. But the old rap music isnt bad, like Cyrpus Hill (however u spell it), Jazzy Jeff And The Fresh Prince, those are just funny :lol: But rap stars nower days think they are "hard" because they have been shot or wat ever

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i can;t belive i actually liked rap and r&b at one point. and then i heard paradise city and i was saved.

i always thought that when you got into a kind of music it broadened your horizon. you seem to sound like you had to leave rap to like rock n roll, thats quite...sad really. i mean what did you get a whole new wardrobe too? maybe a record exorcism? you realise how insulting you sound? "i can't believe i liked rap", what is it fucking beneath you now? it really is sad. maybe a year from now you'll hear a marvin gaye record and you'll be born again. quick, lets have a rock n roll Exodus, throw another Axl poster on the fire!!!

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no thats totally not it ^. i liked rap and r&b for best part of 5 years then it got repetative i was starting to go off it when i heard PC. and how can you judge someones music history by 1 post.

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no thats totally not it ^. i liked rap and r&b for best part of 5 years then it got repetative i was starting to go off it when i heard PC. and how can you judge someones music history by 1 post.

depends what they say in the post and how broad the comments are. it getting repetitive suggests that the newer stuff was a pale immitation but what you say in your post is that you can't believe you ever liked any of it at all. just sounds a little odd is all, but you're more than entitled to your taste/opinion.

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I only like a little rap, and on that note there's nothing wrong with Outkast and Mr. Andre 3000. What I like about them is they're very ernest and have some very genuine soulful music, they sing about real sitauations, real relationships they had and sometimes just some fun kooky shit :lol: . Their lyrics and hooks are years above those of regular rap and rn'b stars today, they're a group I'm not afraid to say I like, great stuff.

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