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Wow. What an embarrassing group of fans that Guns fans are. My thing with this group was always the music, the vocals, etc. Not the kind of vile stuff that would sometimes come up in their lyrics. I didn't realize that was what so many people got off on. And I didn't realize that a lot of Guns fans think that it's a bad thing to move on from some of the sentiments expressed in their earlier material.

If this is who their fan base is (and for the record I know it's only a small, small sliver) then perhaps all the better that they don't give you guys new music, as you'd probably bitch that these 50-something year old men were maybe pushing a more positive lyrical agenda and therefore a lot of you guys would be saying what "pussies" they are.

I must say I kinda think it's a bit lame when people on this board get too invested in how Axl, or any of the other guys (or gal) in the band look at any particular time...

But I must say, his look from around 1999 thru like early 2006 was pretty heinous. The super baggy pants and the oversized shirts combined with the cornrows looked like somebody's lame dad going through a very, very weird hip-hop phase.

Now I'm not saying he shoulda dressed the way he was in 1987, nor should he have been the guy in catcher's gear and bicycle shorts at that point. But I think his style in his performance with Springsteen in 1994 was decent and I think his style now is pretty good for a fifty-something year old dude. I also liked his 2006 look, though obviously a regular guy on the street would have looked ridiculous in that look. But then again, the average guy on the street couldn't dress in 1987 like Axl either and look reasonable.

On 6/18/2018 at 6:41 PM, gunsnchalupas said:

I haven't read a lot of the comments in this thread, but would not surprise me if older pure "rawk" fans don't like this version because it is more hip hop/R&B in tone.

While I wouldn't be surprised if you're somewhat correct on this, I think it's somewhat fair to say that the most musically interesting era of GNR for me was the Chinese Democracy era (followed by the Illusions era) maybe because there was less of a regard for "rawk" for the sake of "rawk" and more thought of putting the arrangements outside of the the regular rock framework. While I think Appetite is a fucking classic working within that area, I like when bands stretch out and explore. However, I just don't think "This I Love" works well in this hip-hop/whatever framework. Perhaps it's not done and if it were to be released it'd be different though. I'm always willing to give Axl's material a chance and if he did release this one of course I'd listen again with open ears.

12 minutes ago, tremolo said:

This is a remix though, it’s not a version that was considered to be placed instead of the original TIL.

Whoever worked on this remix (Brain?), grabbed previously recorded tracks (vocal take 472926373), added their own stuff and voila!

I understand that. But I'm just saying that many people may just be excited cuz its new to them. And after the dust settles they may realize that the other one is much better.

Yeah, I was shitting myself (not serious for those waiting to talk smack) waiting to hear this other version of "This I Love" and I gotta say, wasn't that impressed. His vocal style on the album version makes much more sense than this one. And I bet if this version had come out instead of the one we all know (and in my case, love) and then this one leaked we'd all be happy that Axl toned down his histrionic vocals on this version and that the song rightly got the "November Rain" treatment it deserved with strings and guitar solo.

So yeah, Axl got this one right in 2008. Just my opinion.

I also gotta say, even though the rasp is a big part of what makes Axl's vocals great, I think some here fetishize it to a ridiculous extent, even praising it when it's used in places where it doesn't fit (like this version of "This I Love").

Hey so, I'm a long time fan. I've been paying attention to this forum since 2002, but only posted a couple of times before this.

But anyways, I've got no problem with the guy but doesn't it seem like whenever Axl changes his look and/or general style, Dizzy does the exact same. 

First we will start with Dizzy's beginnings with the band. Here's one of the few photos of the Axl/Slash/Izzy/Duff/Matt/Dizzy lineup. And we see Dizzy going for the same kinda "rugged '80s cowboy" (yes I know this is a '90s photo) as Axl.

Then Axl disappears, we all know the story. He returns in 2001, and after a bit he finds his new look.....

Of course, we got Axl with his cornrows, and Dizzy goes similar with a dreadlock type look....

Then after the release of Chinese Democracy, Axl returns to a more normal hair style, accompanied by goatee.

Take a wild guess for Dizzy's next look...

So yeah, obviously this is a bit of a joke thread. I'm sure Dizzy's a great guy. Slash and Duff seem fine to be performing with him after all the water under the bridge. But it is a little bit odd that every Axl style change, it seems Dizzy would also do his own spin on it. Reminds me of being in high school and seeing the popular kids dressed one way a certain day and a week later the kids who were trying to fit in would be dressed nearly the exact same way. In high school, it's expected. For guys who are around 40 to over 50 years old, it's kind of a little goofy. Anybody agree?

1 "Don't Cry" (Original)

2 "Sweet Child O' Mine"

3 "November Rain"

4 "Welcome to the Jungle"

5 "Paradise City"

6 "14 Years"

7 "Better"

8 "Civil War"

9 "Prostitute"

10 "Madagascar"

11 "Estranged"

12 "You Could Be Mine"

13 "Nightrain"

14 "This I Love"

15 "Yesterday"

Hey, so does anybody know where the version of "Shadow of Your Love" on the "Live and Let Die" single comes from? Is it from the Appetite for Destruction sessions? Before then? Or during the Use Your Illusion sessions?