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  1. 3 hours ago, sanity_lost said:

     

    Oh god. The UYI drum solos were the worst idea ever invented. I am sorry if there are any drummers in the house who I am offending, but I always, always skip the long ass drum solo when watching UYI videos

    man who cares about your whining about Matt. I know thousands of people who love his drumming. And back in the days he was so powerful for GNR, not like Frank, who's drumming sounds always like a session drummer for any pop show. 

    Actually I find Matt's solos amazing and when we and my friends were kids we always said that Axl and Matt are the best live. Dream days!!!

  2. 56 minutes ago, Slash787 said:

    I guess the "accident" you are referring to is when the band dedicated Nightrain to Dizzy and his hand. He was never meant to be on Appetite.

    He had such a long "accident" that they dint include him from 1985 to 1990? He was in a Coma or what? 

    Apart from Locomotive I don't see what more he added, Im not sure about 14 years but Axl is the one who wrote the piano parts for Estranged cause some people think Dizzy played those parts.

    Do you even know what 'sound' means? I wrote about something and you respond and write about something different. That's not the level od discussion I get used to so I will pass on responding I guess.

    And to the accident, I can't remember correctly but it was something horrible as Axl or Dizzy talked about that long time ago but I guess that can be easily checked or confirmed by someone. And what AFD has to do with that? The sound of the band was changing and they added a lot of pianos which I personally love very much. It's different than AFD but so what? They should record every record the same setup and the same way? I hate CD, but AFD and UYI records are pure hard rock even if you agree or not. To the record I am musician and we own even a recording studio so I have some idea about sound. It has nothing to do with composing music. So yes - Dizzy adds a lot to the GNR sound. Period.

  3. As I stay in Bavaro (Punta Cana is 20km from here) in Dominican Republic for almost 3 months now and saw Hard Rock Cafe but never visited that I decided to jump into car and go and check the place. I guess that is the place that you write about that should have Matt Sorum drum kit but unfortunately there was nothing from GNR inside :( I tried to ask about that but nobody was speaking English LOL! So I will give another shot tomorrow and maybe there will be someone who can speak English... 

  4. I'm most looking forward to November Rain and Estranged. I wonder how many times Slash has played those guitar parts for his own pleasure since '93? There was that infamous botched NR solo with T-Pain and Jamie Foxx in 2010 but from the sounds of it he hadn't played it in a while. I wouldn't be surprised if he hadn't played Estranged at all since Buenos Aires '93.

    what solo?

    From 3 minutes in.

    hahha where in hell can you hear NR or Estranged solo in that one? He's free styling I guess

  5. yeah, especially that current 'drummer' just do not fit at all to GnR or he just can not play drums at all... we can argue about Steven (which is basically big and annoying kid, so who can stand such guy on a daily basis?) and Matt and that's it. If anyone smart is responsible for such big thing like a GNR reunion there are only two options to consider and tbh Matt is 100% guarantee that it will be done very good and professional, PERIOD!

  6. It has been the way of bands to place replacements on a contract thus making them technically a hired hand; Ron Wood was on the pay-roll until Wyman left, for a period of c.fifteen years - does that make him any less a 'Stone' during this period? Should we consequentially reiterate that he was a 'hired hand' and dismiss his contributions during that period, only to (hypocritically) embrace him when he was giving some legal standing? Usually fans are not aware of, or do not concern themselves with, the legal minutiae in bands and merely consider band members based on the manner in which said members are marketed. ''Matt Sorum'' appeared under ''Guns N' Roses'' or ''Guns N' Roses is'' (alongside Axl, Slash etc.) in marketing. On the official Illusion band photo,

    gnr_circa_uyi.jpg

    There are six band members present, one of which is Matt Sorum - NB Shannon Hoon, Del James and West Arkeen are not present. (Sorum is actually more prominent than Izzy and Dizzy in that picture.) This is how most people interpreted, what constituted ''Guns N' Roses''.

    Further, the possibility did exist for Sorum to have been hired as a non-band member, i.e. a backing musician. This would have been eccentric as drummers are seen as pivotal to rock bands and usually Incorporated into the primary band, the procedure applying more to backing musicians (e.g. Teddy Andreadis) and/or backing singers (e.g. Tracey Amos and Roberta Freeman) - but possible; bass players after all are seen as equally pivotal and we have only to witness Darryl Jones's status in the Stones' setup.

    Yet clearly Guns did not apply this to Matt. The Tokyo video's credits are set out thus,

    ''Guns N' Roses

    Axl

    Slash

    Duff

    Matt

    Dizzy

    Gilby

    Guests

    Cece Worrall-Rubin, Lisa Maxwell, Anne King

    Tracey Amos, Roberta Freeman

    Ted Andreadis''

    In other words, Guns specify that Matt is 'Guns N' Roses'; they further make the distinction between 'Guns N' Roses' and 'Guests', placing Matt on the former list and not the latter. Why wasn't Sorum on the guests? He should be if the argument is correct, that ''he was never a band-member'', or someone who is ''less than a genuine band-member''! Was this an oversight? (Gilby was also included as 'Guns N' Roses' incidentally.)

    From my rough glance at track-listings, Matt Sorum performed on forty-one studio recordings (basically, Illusion, Spaghetti Incident and ''Sympathy for the Devil'', minus ''Civil War'', ''My World'' and ''You Can't Put Your Arms Around a Memory''), twenty-six of which were original songs. And the fact he played on original songs is pertinent as Guns are woefully short on original material. This was more, by a considerable mile than any other drummer in Guns N' Roses; Steven possesses twenty; Chinese is a mess in regards to creditation but there are fourteen songs present. Further, Matt Sorum doubled up as an extra percussionist (''Dust N' Bones", "Double Talkin' Jive", "The Garden" and "Coma) and backing vocalist (''So Fine'', ''November Rain'', ''Bad Apples'').

    If studio prolificacy counts for anything in GN'R, the band being short in regards to discography, Matt wins the race hands down. Matt's studio prolificacy I believe was the main reason the Hall of Fame elected to induct him, but not Gilby.

    Additionally, Matt Sorum performed 194 shows under Guns N' Roses when Guns N' Roses were at their absolute (commercial) peak. The venues Steven played were Hammersmith Odeon, Manchester Apollo, Ritz, and The Budokan, venues of the 5,000 mark. Towards the very end of the Appetite tour they were playing arenas, of around the 13,000 capacity, but only for a short period in Asia/Australasia; don't forget also that they were supporting bands (Alice, The Cult, Maiden), through a lot of that period. The venues Matt played were the (and I have deliberately opted for the same geographic locations): Wembley (80,000), Maine Road, Tokyo Dome and Madison Square Gardens - and this was their own tour! In other words, Sorum was playing to big bull-busting stadium capacities!

    The point I am trying to make here is, far more people saw Matt drum for Guns than any other drummer. To the millions who saw the Illusion tour, Sorum was their drummer. If you saw the Paris PPV, as many did, that was Sorum; if you bought the Tokyo VHS, that was Matt. Sorum was the drummer who appeared on their big pompous videos which played on MTV: ''November Rain'', ''Don't Cry'', etc. He was many people's GN'R drummer, and to dismiss him as ''not a proper member'', placing him on the same pedestal as ''Tracey and Roberta or DJ Ashba'', a guy who didn't contribute a note of music to Guns, is not only factually incorrect but somewhat insulting.

    Ironically, I'm a bigger fan of Adler but I cannot deny the testament of Matt's contribution.

    + 1.000.000 ! Matt is great, I'd love to see him 100% involved in the reunion band.

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