ripcurlgirl

Okay I wanted to process all this before posting. Here are my thoughts:

1) It is sad that Izzy couldn't go to Cleveland for the fans, but he could go to London. "Must be the money." How much are they paying him anyway? Izzy didn't get nearly enough heat for dissing the fans that night. Everyone gave him a pass because he's Izzy. Not me.

It seems pretty simple to me. Izzy doesn't like media attention. The HoF was a big media event in the music world. Him performing with GNR is big for GNR fans but it's not going to get close to the amount of press that the HoF did. Yeah, it sucked that he wasn't at the HoF but the HoF isn't really about the fans. It's not like it's an award voted for by fans/the general public. Playing at a GNR show seems, imo, to be more for the fans than showing up at the HoF would be.

from another forum:

Marc another question since Beta and her family are so close to Axl has anyone tried to speak to them about getting professional help for Axl? Surely they must be aware of his nature and are concerned.

I have told Beta many times, but nothing ever gets done. She thinks it's all Slash's fault. I told her it's not about who's fault it is, it's about how to deal with it and move on

makes me sad :|

She knows if there's any reconciliation with Slash or reunion she and her family are out the door.

Seen this "theory" posted many times and it makes absolutely no sense

How would Axl doing a "reunion" or reconciling with Slash suddenly make him turn against the people who have essentially been his family for 20 years?

Not that he would neccessarily turn against them but they wouldn't have as much say. If there was a reunion, I doubt Beta would be managing it.

Axl is not a sellout

There's no money involved in playing at the HOF show moron, so how is that selling out?

Exactly, in fact don't the band actually have to pay in order to go there?

Then why is it Slash that is shooting down any chance?

Axl isn't the one that said they had no chance of playing now, is he?

That's what I thought.

The bit I'm focusing on is...

“And we’re not playing. I would imagine that they asked us to play but I know that we’re not playing.”

What does that even mean?! Who is the "us" they asked if you are ambiguous about whether or not they asked you? You know you're not playing because that was partially you're decision or did someone tell you you can't/won't play?

Am I just reading into it too much? It seems like a weird thing to say...

I think it's just weirdly/badly written...."I could be positive Steven will be there" is also odd sounding.

You know people in real conversations don't tend to carefully word every sentence to be grammatically correct?

1) He obviously means that the HOF would have asked Guns to play, but that he knows they are not going to.

2) He knows Steven would die before he'd pass this up.

Yeah, but sometimes grammar gets cleaned up by the journalist in the article.

Then why is it Slash that is shooting down any chance?

Axl isn't the one that said they had no chance of playing now, is he?

That's what I thought.

The bit I'm focusing on is...

“And we’re not playing. I would imagine that they asked us to play but I know that we’re not playing.”

What does that even mean?! Who is the "us" they asked if you are ambiguous about whether or not they asked you? You know you're not playing because that was partially you're decision or did someone tell you you can't/won't play?

Am I just reading into it too much? It seems like a weird thing to say...

I think it's just weirdly/badly written...."I could be positive Steven will be there" is also odd sounding.

They ARE gonna blame Axl. That's a fact.

Sad and pathetic, but true.

See below.

I'm sure that they'll still try to find a way to blame Axl though, he seems to be their favorite scapegoat for everything.

Because it is his fault they aren't playing.

The whole world knows the 6 other guys would be fine playing a few songs, but Axl is the one who won't participate. He will take some flack for it, and rightfully so.

Then why is it Slash that is shooting down any chance?

Axl isn't the one that said they had no chance of playing now, is he?

That's what I thought.

We don't know what's going on behind the scenes though. Slash may be the one to say publicly they're not going to play but who knows why that is or if someone in particular is stopping it. Could be Axl, could be Slash, could be Duff or Izzy who's said no privately and stopped it. It's disappointing they're not going to play but we can't categorically blame one person because we don't know for sure.

It probably will be online. I'm not usually interested in the HOF but I did look for it online when Metallica were inducted and, if I remember correctly, it went up pretty quickly after the actual ceremony. So, I imagine with Guns it'll be the same.

You're probably thinking of the Stones - Sympathy for the Devil. And all the sinners saints

van de graffe generator.....i bet i've spelled that wrong.

limp bizkit

i've drawn a blank, i know there are more but i cant think of any.

my personal favourites apart from slash are eddie van halen, randy rhoads, ted nugent and mark knopfler.

i'm surprised you didnt have keith moon on there, i'm not a fan of the who but he's a kickass drummer, but off that list i'll have to go with alex van halen-great drummer and i love van halen.

he's in it because his daughter is also in it. i've been waiting ages to see that episode, but it hasnt been played yet in england.

Pink Floyd - Another Brick in the Wall Part 2.

We don't need no education

We dont need no thought control

No dark sarcasm in the classroom

Teachers leave them kids alone

Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!

All in all it's just another brick in the wall.

All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

We don't need no education

We dont need no thought control

No dark sarcasm in the classroom

Teachers leave them kids alone

Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!

All in all it's just another brick in the wall.

All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

some of the best lyrics ever and one of the best solos ever.

what kind of music do you listen too?

a couple of hundred; stones, dire straits, aerosmith, bowie, all of van halen's albums with dlr including that poster in the women and children first album, that sort of stuff and loads of singles. but sadly apart from the nighttrain single i have no gnr on vinyl.

the stones. one of my all time favourite bands. no contest.

i downloaded all the samples and they were cool but not really my thing.

they look like an interesting band, i'll check them out tommorow. thanks for that!

gnr (old)

van halen (old)

kiss (old)

motley crue

billy idol

aerosmith

supersuckers

alice cooper

spinal tap

led zeppelin

deep purple (any)

ozzy osbourne w/randy rhoades.

prince

hendrix

pink floyd

I wish they showed SNL in england. It looks like a cool show, i mean apart from Ashlee Simpson being on it.

cool thanks. i think i will buy it.

K, i've had their self titled album for quite a few years now and i love it to bits, is slave to the grind worth getting?

Thats great! Thanks dude.

I love Kiss. I'm a big fan and i love detriot rock city, very funny movie.

i really really loved nirvana a couple of years ago, but ive gone off them recently. i also got really interested in the theory that kurt was murdered.