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Were Atlas and State of Grace released?

6 hours ago, Lelex95 said:

The chorus part has to be, how else could he do it? 
it doesn’t sound like pieces together like the verse is, it sound like a whole piece.

like he wrote the lyrics, the melody and told ai to sing it with Axl’s voice.

He physically spliced together Axl making various sounds to create the words.  It really is Axl's voice.  He did the same thing when he reconstructed Silkworms out of the shitty live performance.  He used high quality audio of Axl speaking to splice different sounds together and create studio quality vocals.  

Has any commented on the piano intro sounding kind of like Sweet Home Alabama?

11 hours ago, eggers said:

I’m surprised how muddy the mix is. Kind of a bummer.

 

edit. It actually sounds better the louder you play it.

It's a speaker issue as far as I know.  It sounds very good on some systems and not so good on my phone.  My phone typically plays things very clearly, though.  

Oh shit, Perhaps has one of the best melodies of any GNR song.  I hope the current band doesn't change it too much.  

4 hours ago, MrSoftie said:

I've always believed that there was something on his vocals in 2010, hard to explain but the 'rasp' just seemed enhanced somehow.

I've always thought that too, but I accepted that he must have just been on a good run because not only were the vocals on point, his whole stage presence and attitude were back.  So who knows 

Is it possible that during the 2010 era they were using effects on his mic to create those God vocals?  

19 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

Don't hail me
And don't idolize the ink
Or I've failed in my attentions
Can you find the missing link
Your only validation is living your own life
Vicarious existence is a fucking waste of time

Explaining the lyrics:

Axl: It just means, you know, it’s trying to show people to realize their own personal power and their own abilities rather than going, you know, “Axl Rose is God and that’s great”. It’s like, “Whoa, don’t say I’m God”. It’s like, you know, just get your own thing together. And that’s where I say “if I fail in my intentions”. If a person is just idolizing me and not working in their own life, then we fail with things we’re trying to express in that song. Rockline, November 27, 1991.

Exactly 

On 2/22/2023 at 3:11 PM, Nintari said:

I think you read too far into it. The shirt's probably just a take on society as a whole. We're self-destructive etc, and so much so, that we literally killed the son of God. It's tragic irony. A parable.

No, it really has always meant exactly what I said.  I'm not even reading anything into it.  It's saying to stop propping people up on some belief you've concocted about their personality.  Stop turning people into Michael Jackson, or ironically, Axl Rose.  Stop worshipping your own idea of things.

"Kill your idols" is similar to the phrase "Lose your illusions."  

Everyone has an idea of what their world is and how it should be.  That's their "illusion."  You can use that illusion to progress in life to a point, but at some point, something is going to happen to shatter that illusion.  You'll see the world for how it really is and you will become "disillusioned."  You'll have depression and anger.  That's why it's important to not try to build your own expectations up too high or become complacent with how things are going in your life.  You should "lose your illusions."  

"Kill your idols" is basically that same concept.  Don't put anyone on a pedestal.  Don't let your concept of a person get blown up into something bigger than what it is.  For example, take Axl Rose himself.  Some people have built him up to be a hero or somehow larger than life, when he's just an ordinary man.  Imagine going to meet someone who you've idolized but when you meet them, they're nothing like you imagined.  You've created an illusion of this person in your own mind and are now shown the truth, and truth is usually shocking.  

So, sure, it can directly be about religious idols, but in a broader sense, it's about not building anyone or anything up in your own head.  

13 hours ago, rocknroll41 said:

What the fuck did I just watch… I mean, Sideways is one of my favorite films of all time, but jeez…

Also Josh sounds like a bit of a whiner here. But if what he says is true that all the music on the original demo was written by him, then I can see why he’d be a bit pissed.

The bulk of this video is Shelly Johnson (Madchen Amick) from Twin Peaks working at the diner.  I think that's like her first shot in the show and it might be the weirdest thing to happen in the whole show, somehow.  

Couldn't sing it live back in the day and would obviously still butcher it today, but I still want to hear it 

1 hour ago, Towelie said:

 

The only good part of that song starts at the 1 minute mark.  

dang i was hoping this was a garden of eden cover

Song is fine but it badly needs Izzy

14 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

It was the same night/morning, they played an acoustic set at a club after the Wembley arena show. Here's the acoustic version.

I remember two versions, didn't remember that one of them was acoustic.  Probably because the quality is so poor on the second version so I didn't listen to it much back then.  The slightly different vocal melodies are interesting, and he seems to hit impossibly high notes in part of this, don't you think?  

He sang it twice in that year, maybe back to back shows?  He hasn't sang it since then or before then as far as I know.  Rod Stewart was not involved.  

No tears, but Breakdown and Estranged are two of the most identifiable songs for me from them.  

5 hours ago, Free Bird said:

Yeah, that was a very unnecessary last sentence. 

Lol maybe, I typically skip Double Talkin' Jive and You Ain't the First.  I probably shouldn't say they're "bad," but I get nothing from them when I listen.  

Starting at about 2:10, it has elements of his ending solo to Double Talkin' Jive (the only good part to Double Talkin' Jive)

On 9/8/2020 at 1:31 PM, MrSoftie said:

Another awesome one was Rose Bar 2010, Axl did the classic whistle scream thing.. the one and only time since the 90s.

Except not really.  He tried to do it, but it was an empty shell of what it was.  

Any of the original ones that are like the album, where it's not a "scream" but instead it's an actual howl that's WAY harder to pull off than a scream.  He sounds exactly like a siren in those early screams, and I doubt he could do it anymore.  

Mr. Brownstone when I was maybe 8 or 9, in my sister's room.  She was playing it for her friend and they turned it down because of "motherfucker" and I said "what's motherfucker?" and they were like "SHHHH don't ever say that!"  I didn't care much about any music except soft piano music until I was about 17, and I went to a friend's house and he had Guns playing and I was like "oh yeah, isn't this guy crazy as shit?  Like does drugs and beats his girlfriends and stuff?" And he was like "yeah but the music is good."  I still didn't take notice, but he played it over and over and I couldn't get "Patience" out of my head, and that's when I realized that Paradise City was from the same band, and I remembered hearing Brownstone back in the day, and I thought they must have two singers...anyway, from there I did my research online, found out Axl might be crazy but he wasn't a wasted drug abuser and the girlfriend beating stuff definitely had another side to it, and boom, a GNR fan was born.

I used to write poetry back when I was an angsty teenager, and if someone ever saw a rough draft of anything I wrote, even if there was only one line different than the finished product, I would panic.  It's hard enough showing off the finished product, nevermind showing something that you don't think is finished.  

Lol, it's ironic that I had to edit this.  

The reason the band doesn't put out this stuff (and this is me, if I was the one in charge) is probably for the same reason no artist wants people to hear unfinished product, especially if it's jokingly done.  If you put filler lyrics in a verse to a song that's supposed to be serious, you don't want to taint the actual song by releasing the filler lyrics.  Same with the music, or the rough mix, etc..