diablo280273

Well first of all i dig he fact that GnR are back, and will support the new band 110%, and I enyoyed last nights gig couse its been a long time that we’ve seen them live but……..some serious work needs to be done. The gig in Rio was no way near good.

Axl screwed up both Patience and Paradise City big time, I am a musician and you could notice it so obvious. He lost complete count of were they were in both songs. mayby it were nerves but so far in the gig i doubt it...

Maybe the monitors on stage were bad or something I don’t know but they were huge mistakes.

Also I have big big doubts concerning the creativity of the new band. Watching last night show I don’t have the feeling at all that I’m looking at a tight and focussed band. Sure everyone is trying their asses off but they just don’t seem to have their heart and thoughts by the music that they are playing.

And even with the new songs the bands doesn’t make an confident impression at all and seems to be searching for chemistry. Anyway I hope that they will get things tighten up a bit before Nijmegen!

Instead of the long solo’s which add completely nothing to the show, they could easily play a few other tunes. Old or new or whatever…..

Maybe the new guys are individually better musicians than the old band but the chemistry is still far to be found and not yet anywhere near the chemistry the old band had.

But again don't get me wrong i really dig the new band but if you want people to forget about the old band, they have to get better!

GNR vs PJ on a GNR board...I wonder how this will turn out!

yeah well good for him, everybody is entitled to their own opinion just don't spread it like its the only truth out there, and that’s what he does. in a fact i agree on most of what he believes in but thats not the discussion. He spreads his opinion like its better than any other individual has out there

No he doesn't, at least no more than any other passionate, opinionated person does.

Well to my opionion he does cause he is standing on a stage doing his speach without anybody having the change to say something back if they don't agree with him. Not much of a change of debating him.

yeah well good for him, everybody is entitled to their own opinion just don't spread it like its the only truth out there, and that’s what he does. in a fact i agree on most of what he believes in but thats not the discussion. He spreads his opinion like its better than any other individual has out there, and that’s what i don't like about him. When I go to a rock concert I wanna have a good time and listen to some good music, if I wanna get a political lecturing I’ll watch the six o clock news.

I think beside the awesome “Ten album”, Pearl Jam is a highly overrated band.

And Eddie Vedder is an ashole who keeps shoving is so called “political correct” opinion as if it’s the only right one out there, in other peoples throats. The guys sings in a fucking rock band what makes him the new world leader?? Just have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up!

Man i really am curious about the new leaks hint hint!

I agree with the most of you. Most of the newer stuff isn't earth shocking, its good but to my humble opinion CD still needs a couple of really great tunes. Nothing to do with disliking the new band, i think they are great.

And I'm sure that the studio versions of both TWAT and the Blues are gonna be in the Estranged and November Rain kinda regions. But I'm also pretty sure that the new single's gonna be an awesome track that we haven't heard yet. This because the record company will use and need this element of suprise in these digital days without a live version of the the song being all over the internet four months before releasing it. As for sales figures i think that the album will sell 2 a 3 milion easily just alone on the name and the long wait. What happens after that will depend on the succes of the singles and the album.

It think its really a sad and disrespectful thing how they are treating their fans. I mean sure you can file everything under a "live your life” comment but a little info wouldn't hurt. I mean you expect your fan-base to come and see you if your touring don't you? Respect is a two way street and GnR aren’t showing that at all.

So to my opinion sad is starting to become the key word in this bad B movie.

My question would be:

What happend?

Well the main question to be answered for all the critics and a lot of the fans….(and basically the whole world) will be if this so called “New” band will even stand a change in today’s music scene without being a parody of the great band that once was!

I’m from Holland and saw them here in 1993 two times (sold out) performing for 65000 fans in Nijmegen. Now their playing Nijmegen again and the concert is so fucking far from sold out. Also I can sense lots and lots of skepticism ‘bout this new band. There is a lot of laughter and disrespect towards a guy like Buckethead (a lot of people think he’s still in the band) that people see as a clown and i think that he did a lot of harm to the GnR name with those comedy looks.

Besides the die hard fans, i think a lot of people were really dissapointed after the 2002 tour. So things will have to be very differend.

Also a new single has too surface within a few weeks ore else this tour misses his purpose completly. I cannot understand that a label like Geffen puts up with this. You're playing al those big festivals with all thos potential young fans. So not bringing something new on the radio, would be comercial suicide.

It all depents on the succes of a new album and single. Some of the sales figures from the 2002 tour:

November 8th, 2002 - Tacoma, WA @ Tacoma Dome Attendance: 6110 / 17083

November 11th, 2002 - Boise, ID @ Idaho Center Arena Attendance: 3919 / 6500

November 17th, 2002 - Moline, IL @ Mark Of The Quad Cities Attendance: 5563 / 10448

November 21st, 2002 - Auburn Hills, MI @ Palace Of Auburn Hills Attendance: 8857 / 15064

Personaly i think its just too damn late.

brief summary:

Mid ninetees: after the whole grunge explosion Axl wants to let the music take another caurse, his old bandmates don't agree and therefore the Old band brakes up.

1998-1999:

Axl is now totaly into the whole industrial and Nu metal thing (O my God prooves that)

2001 till......

Axl realizes just before the album was suppose to come out that the Nu metal genre is dead and burried and decides to go back a little to the old traditional rock again. this could have caused the album delay in 2001/2002.

2006.....traditional rock is more populair these days esspecialy in Europe. perfect timing to release the album.

But.....i'm from Holland and i can sence a lot of sceptisism 'round music fans and press over here. The New GnR need to deliver big big big time this year! And not only a tour will be enough. A earthshattering new single and album will be needed. I mean the cancelled concert in 2001 was sold out in just a month (35000 people). The concert in Nijmegen is nowere near that amount of tickets that has been sold.

Never the less. I will be there in Nijmegen Holland just as i was in 1993, but deep in my mind a little voice is saying that its just too late for Axl. Time caught up with him. And time makes no exeptions, not even for W. Axl Rose.

I hope i'm so wrong!