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Indigo,how'd you come up with all those quotes so quick?Excellent researching on your part...gives you sides from every story...and after reading all,I still take Axl's....the most eye opening one for me was this.....K!: How come?

G: Well, it's an Axl thing. He just wasn't into what we were doing, so he's kind of rethinking what he wants to do. He just kind of threw a wrench into everything that me, Slash and Matt had worked to. And then Duff came in. Duff and Axl have an idea what the album should be, and the rest of us have another idea." (Gilby, Kerrang, 05/24/94)........That sums it all up for me.....

Slash, Izzy, Duff, Steven, Matt, Alan Niven all tell the same tale of Axl becoming a meglomaniac and wanting complete control of the band. Slash, Izzy, Duff, Gilby and Matt have at one time or other commented about how they hated it when Axl went on stage late and Slash and Izzy both gave it as one of the reasons they quit GnR......And you know who corraborates Axl's version of the events? nobody just Axl....I posted close to 80 articles and interviews with the above individuals where they give their side of the story. If you refuse to take the time to read the articles or chose to discount their versions and believe that Axl's is the only true version of what happened that is your right but I chose to believe the many who were there and lived the events over the one who has nobody backing his side of the story............

Kudos for all those interviews. Without reading any of them, i'm crossing out Alan Niven - he wasn't part of the band. Steven - when exactly again was he thrown out because of all his problems? Before the illusions came out, that's right. This is well before Axl and Slash were still 'brothers'. Back then, was there really anyone jumping up and down yelling "BRING BACK ADLER"???. Izzy - wasn't he the one who left because he didn't want to tour with a few members of the band who weren't really sober? Now, in all these revisionist versions of history, it's suddenly all about Axl being late.Gilby - I don't know how to touch this one without upsetting any classic lineup purists who might be 'offended' by bringing him into this discussion. Same goes for Matt too. Okay, so Slash walks out because of megalomania - only, whose megalomania, is the question here. Shut up and sing , didn't we hear that too? That's a toss up. Duff quit after that and for whatever real reasons, only he knows - reading his recent comments about him pondering his role in how events went down, makes me wonder...

Anyhow, linking this whole series of events back to "megalomania" and refusing to go on stage on time is kind of deluded if you ask me. But, it's your choice to make how you view the events as they unfolded and how you stitch them together. In the land of the blind, the one eyed man supposedly gets to be king, but that's not the way it works is it? They lynch him instead.

Thanks....couldn't have said it better......

I haven't made shit up..If you'd put down your Slash Kool Aid cup,you'd obviously see where I wrote I THINK,and TO ME.never said I was stating facts...Heard that Slash's Snakepit album and thought it sucked ass..no wonder Axl didn't want to use the songs..yes,he went on to Velvet Revolver,and if I recall correctly,couldn't get along with that singer either....

I'm not being a hater,i actually like Slash..Just not a fan of his Snakepit albums and not much into his solo one.....and you keep mentioning Gilby and Matt.....Gilby and Matt were never really considered a part of Guns & Roses IN MY OPINION....so just as you tell me to stop being a hater,I'd like to tell you to get off Slash's dick....I'm sure he is just as much to blame as you say Axl is for the demise of the original Guns..........

Hahahah...exactly.....

All you really need to read in the interview is what he says about Steven Tyler being on a "show like that",(concerning American Idol).Because if I'm not mistaken,wasn't he a GUEST MENTOR on the show like that?The reason Axl was the way he was in 96 or whatever,is because Slash was too fucked up to care about the band ,and AXL did what he did so he could carry on G & R,and not have to worry about stupid lawsuits years down the road.To me,AXL bought the rights because he knew they were gonna break up(due to certain members drug use) and he wanted to protect his baby.

Maybe if Slash is lucky,Steven Tyler will invite him on American Idol as a mentor again someday.

Thats strange because I believe if I am not mistaken Slash, Gilby and Matt went into the studio and wrote all the songs to the 5 Oclock Somewhere album as a followup to UYI and Axl never showed up to the studio...Axl then did not want the songs and Slash decided to do Snakepit and toured off of them while Axl did nothing.....So who was really taking care of business back then? And please provide proof Axl bought the rights to the name due to drug use? where is this coming from? Go read the interviews I uploaded and learn what really happened during that time instead of making shit up.......

Exactly....SLASH,GILBY AND MATT.......basically Slash's songs ......there is no proof he bought the rights due to drug use...it's simply my opinion and it's well documented how fucked up Slash and Duff were at this point....and I think it was smart of Axl to buy the rights so he could continue on with Guns.....all i know is,who care?...Axl has moved on,former Guns obviously have buried the hatchets and joined him onstage with the new band...and Slash continues being Slash....he'd play with Justin Beiber if he thought he'd get exposure from it.......

All you really need to read in the interview is what he says about Steven Tyler being on a "show like that",(concerning American Idol).Because if I'm not mistaken,wasn't he a GUEST MENTOR on the show like that?The reason Axl was the way he was in 96 or whatever,is because Slash was too fucked up to care about the band ,and AXL did what he did so he could carry on G & R,and not have to worry about stupid lawsuits years down the road.To me,AXL bought the rights because he knew they were gonna break up(due to certain members drug use) and he wanted to protect his baby.

Maybe if Slash is lucky,Steven Tyler will invite him on American Idol as a mentor again someday.

Thats strange because I believe if I am not mistaken Slash, Gilby and Matt went into the studio and wrote all the songs to the 5 Oclock Somewhere album as a followup to UYI and Axl never showed up to the studio...Axl then did not want the songs and Slash decided to do Snakepit and toured off of them while Axl did nothing.....So who was really taking care of business back then? And please provide proof Axl bought the rights to the name due to drug use? where is this coming from? Go read the interviews I uploaded and learn what really happened during that time instead of making shit up.......

All you really need to read in the interview is what he says about Steven Tyler being on a "show like that",(concerning American Idol).Because if I'm not mistaken,wasn't he a GUEST MENTOR on the show like that?The reason Axl was the way he was in 96 or whatever,is because Slash was too fucked up to care about the band ,and AXL did what he did so he could carry on G & R,and not have to worry about stupid lawsuits years down the road.To me,AXL bought the rights because he knew they were gonna break up(due to certain members drug use) and he wanted to protect his baby.

Maybe if Slash is lucky,Steven Tyler will invite him on American Idol as a mentor again someday.

THINKING OF SELLING IT.VERY COOL PIECE OF HISTORY.JUST DON,T KNOW WHAT IT,S WORTH.

Found this on Ebay,Thought Id share the wealth!

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need 1 floor ticket for 12

I still have a few floor setas for the 12th and 15th. I'm selling mine for $100 whcih includes shipping

do you still have floor seats for tghe 12? ill take as many as you have whats the price