GnRlover1987

didn't bother reading the whole thread...

What a surprise! If you didn't read the thread then why are you commenting? Do a bit of touting yourself? Why don't you go back and read the thread, then you might understand why it is working and worth doing.

You are making it much much worse by doing what you're doing. The only one doing anything wrong here is you yourself. If someone has a ticket to put on ebay now all they'll see is your fake bids and think wow, these are going for this much? I better raise my price. So good job ya dumbass.

Wrong again shit for brains. You put a huge maximum bid in seconds before the end and then you are guaranteed to win. Then you spend the next few days f**king the little prick around and messing with their shitty plans. Then you post negative feedback and put people off using them. Then you create another account and start all over again! Eventually the touts will run out of time to sell and have to sell their tickets cheap. Plus negative feedback f**ks up their accounts long term.

Ps - If it goes some way to encourage people to stop touting then it's not wasted time. Also if it pisses off cretinous people like you then it's got to be good!

Exactly. Much as I don't like scalping, no one is holding a gun to anyone's head to pay the prices.

I disagree completely, can't you see that by buying up all the available tickets the touts are holding people to ransom? They are 'holding a gun to your head' if you are desperate to see the gig, they know people will pay rip off inflated prices. But by people f**king up their auctions they'll be force to sell their tickets for less. This will be a winning situation for real fans.

Thanks for the support guys. I thought the website idea might shame these people into stopping their behaviour!!

Jack, I can't believe some people can't see where this is going either. Touting is just holding people to ransom. They don't provide anything of worth or value, they're just cheap thieves taking a slice of pie that don't belong to them.

Just thought I'd update, there are still loads of these shitheads selling tickets. Also I've started getting the touts to give me a name and address to send payment on premise that I have no paypal. Once I've got enough addresses I'll post them on a website - a hall of shame for greedy f**kers.

I still need a few more people to help out as I can't bid on all of them! I'm messing quite a few around already (good fun to know they are wasting their time, greedy bastards).

It's really easy to sign up for a fake ebay account, takes about 5 mins.

If you win somebodys auction and do not pay, once the seller informs ebay they will contacts the next highest bidder and ask if he/she still wants the item, they will however have to pay the price they set as their max bid. Which means the fan ends up paying more.

I got my ticket on presale but some friends might have to buy off ebay, this is if the price drops a bit nearer the time.

Maybe, but I doubt it as I'm putting negative feedback on their accounts saying the tickets sold are fake, that way no one will take the chance with them after this! Touts only exist because fans are desperate to see their favourite bands and will pay any price, so we as fans have a responsibility to not purchase and give these people a source either.

A company in the UK was closed down recently by the high court because they were purchasing tickets and professionally touting effectively by re-selling the tickets at extortionate prices. The high court ruled that they were exploiting fans passion and ripping people of - they were forced into liquidation. This is why the UK has an Office of Fair Trading. You cannot simply set up rip-off businesses in the UK, which is how it should be. Now the government are talking about targeting the individuals who are also ripping people off, in the mean time though we have a responsibility to make these peoples lives difficult by f**king them about and wasting their time!

i'll see if i can help. i got the fucker who was selling one of the hammerstein shows on cd removed. the listings are no longer in the database, and the seller got banned.

Cool dude, all help is much appreciated!

Ps - My answer to all who try and defend touting - think about what the bands would think of it. I am sure they don't like the idea of greedy little f**kers making money off the back of their talent and hard work.

Touts are leaches, pure and simple.

ethical? the next bit might sound rude but i ASSURE u, its not supposed to, but can u do me a favour. walk outside ur door, into the nearest town go for a walk thru n just observe. its like every other place on earth, extremely unethical. ticket touting is enterprise, something free democratic countries hold as an important value. i do truly understand what u mean n how it's fucked up but...such is life. that said, if u believe in the principle, fuck yeah, stand up for it

So you admit it's unethical but can't see what's wrong with it? 'ticket touting is enterprise'...hmmm, have to disagree there! Inventing or producing goods is enterprise. This is more like going and buying every single item in a shop and then selling them outside for double the price - it's a scam.

"such is life" - yes, if nobody challenges the status quo. If more people stood up and said 'no that's not right', it wouldn't be able to happen would it?

they're not doin anything illegal so whats ur problem? if u cant afford it then u can't afford it, hey, such is life! i dont think it was ALL touts blockin up the line all that time y'know, they got their shit on pre-order.

Marina, my problem is it's unethical and holds fans to ransom. These people are making money from literally nothing - is that fair? The government in UK are discussing banning touting all together and making it illegal, but in the mean time while it is legal I will do my best to stop them and make their lives miserable.

Ripping people off is a f**king shity thing to do. People should stand up and fight back!

I tried contacting Ebay first but they aren't interested. Like someone else said, they want their share of the profit and couldn't give a f**k how to get it. Ebay are corporate scum.

As for hurting those by pushing up the price I disagree, I've already won 5 sets of tickets - I will keep stringing them along and then post negative feedback to screw their precious Ebay accounts. So no fans will get hurt.

Also if any of you guys can spread the word we could show the world that GnR fans don’t take it lying down! After all that’s what GnR is about – great music and a f**king spirit of rebellion, a never say die attitude.

F**K EM ALL FOR BEING GREEDY, THEY DESERVE ALL THEY GET!!

Cheers mate, I hope you enjoy it.

I just can't afford the £200 plus at moment so am gonna have to miss it unfortunately. Although I've seen the original GnR line up twice, once at Wembley and once at Milton Keynes Bowl, plus VR at Brixton so I shouldn't be complaining too much!

It just really pissed me off that people can get away with doing this and us genuine fans miss out. I wish they'd make touting illegal and save us all some cash.

Hi all,

I'm in the UK and have tried all morning to get GnR tickets for their Hammersmith Apollo gig on 7 June, but as usual the f**king ticket touts have bought all the tickets. Now they are all appearing on Ebay for 3 or 4 times their face value. These f**kers aren't fans, they just see an opportunity to make money out of GnR lovers.

So.... I want to ask for some help in 'pissing on their parade'.

I've created a fake Ebay ID and started bidding on all the tickets, but alone I won't do much damage. I need the help of some other like minded GnR fans who think it's wrong that people like this make real fans pay stupid prices or miss out. PLEASE HELP!!

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll...le=guns+n+roses