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I thought he was average - better than RIR3 vocally but there was more energy at RIR and charisma. He seemed dead last night, like he wasn't really into it at all, and the few moves he did (the snake dance, the spins, etc.) all looked like an old man trying to imitate a younger version of himself. At this point it might be better for him to not even attempt to bring back the old moves because it's not the same. He ran out of steam fast and it went downhill IMO. I also thought Robin Finck absolutely sucked and ruined the chemistry between Fortus and Thal, who were superb.
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They have a job because he quit.
Im all for the advancing of GnR
How Bumblefoot compares to Bucket, and Slash
Bumblefoot is currently in the greatest band in the world
Slash is in VR
Buckethead is solo
Playing speed:
Bumble
Bucket
Slash
Playing ability:
Bucket
Bumble
Slash
Writing:
Bucket
Slash
Bumble
Forward Progression in career
Bumble
Bucket
Backward Progression in career
Slash
He's playing GNR material along with his own, not Slash's or Izzy's.
Worst post ever.
You give GN'R supporters a bad name.
And Slash plays with more soul, passion and fury than Buckethead ever will - even with all of BH's technical wizardry and finesse. There's a fine line between technical skill and emotive playing and Slash is emotive all the way - and I think that's far better than someone who can shred up and down the neck of a piece of wood for a couple hours, hitting notes and bending them with no feeling at all.
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Yeah, we know.
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The critical thinkers don't dwell in a section antithetical to critical thinking.
That's the answer right there.
*CLOSED*
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Like Bucketslash said, he seems to have the technical chops of Buckethead and the soul of Slash....a happy medium for fans of both camps....
Technically, he's proven that he can handle the material. However, as a lead guitarist, he lacks the commanding presence that both Slash and Buckethead brought to the stage.
Ironically, he's rendered Finck and Fortus obsolete. Rather than playing Christina Aguilera's 'Beautiful', he chose a melody of 'Don't Cry'..
Smart move..
-Kickingthehabit
I seriously hope Finck gets run over by a steam roller or something and is put out of his - and our - misery. They don't need three fucking guitarists, two is plenty - lead and rhythm. Bumblefoot is far better than Finck and closer to Slash than Finck will ever be.
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I thought releasing a killer single, begin touring europe then album by the time they hit america might make more sense.
I reckon you might be right. I also reckon anyone with any common sense whatsoever would agree with you.
At this point I'm starting to think Axl is going out of his way to make this NOT work.
It's so, so, so, SO incredibly rare to still have such a strong following after such a long absence...most musicians would be lucky to have half as large a fanbase at this point...he seems to be taking advantage of it. With all the hype after the leaks and the tour announcements and RS interview - it would have been so easy for him to drop a single, start a world tour and release the album. And so far he's taken no initiative. More "it's coming out this year" promises with no exact date and another 2002 tour - a tour that isn't supporting an album.
Luckily for him Europe loves GN'R more than the US (I lived there and they are considered classic rock whereas when I'm in US it seems like they're more often scoffed at and disregarded for some reason) - so it will be easy to fill the stadiums - but if he doesn't have an album out by the time he begins the American tour, he's fucked.
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First of all, wrong forum.
When the world lacks true rock heros such as Axl, many people cling tight to those they think come close. PJ isn't bad, but they are sort of blah. GNR causes people to have poignant emotions.That's a blanket statement. I know people - a lot of people - who hate GN'R. It does nothing for them. No "poignant emotions." I also know people who love Pearl Jam and think they're one of the best bands ever - better than GN'R, even.
So, it all depends on who you're talking to. I consider Pearl Jam to be okay - Vedder is bland, repetitive and incoherent - the songs all sound the same - but they have some good tunes.
But to say GN'R is better because people experience different emotions can be said for PJ as well - it just depends on who you talk to.
For what it's worth - your friend is probably saying PJ wasn't mainstream/corporate/etc. because they were a grunge band - but they sold out quicker than Kurt Cobain, and are one of the most commercial bands out there. If he disagrees, ask him to point out the last time they didn't travel in a jumbo jet, ride around in a limo or buy a new multi-million-dollar mansion.
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Can we - for once - not bring former GNR members into a discussion about a current GNR show?
But I think comparisons are inevitable. Especially with a band that was as huge as GN'R. There will always be people comparing them to Slash because Slash was the lead guitarist on every released album so far from GN'R. I can totally understand why people always bring Slash and co. up even if I disagree with them.
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If your still thinking that you arene't an idiot (which you are, seriously) take a look here to find out exactly why. http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showto...0entry1312876
That's called irony, and I love it, because so many kids on this forum make it a part of their daily lives to become victim to it - as you just have.
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SLASHITES WHEN FINCK STARTS PLAYING SCOM AND NOVEMBER RAIN
thats any1, cuz that shit sucked tonight
no, no one else is feeling a connection to this little clip, it's just you
and maybe roadhouse blues, but he's my friend so i stop him occasionally
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And to think, there are people on this very forum who would entertain the suggestion that he's better than Slash or Buckethead
I also hate those stupid faces he makes when he plays - there's a difference between getting into a song (Hendrix a prime example, and Slash) and seemingly orgasming to a song (Finck). I mean, he looks like he's blowing his load every time he hits a note. Not very easy to watch.
hahah I noticed that, he looked like he was getting off in his solos, it was a bit off putting...
I thought one of the highlights of the show was Bumble's wonderful rendition of Don't Cry...and the crowd singing along...very moving....I still don't get why Axl won't play this song live (Shannon hoon's death?)...if any song is a fan favorite it's that song....
Yeah, Axl is screwing up a lot of gold opportunities if you ask me. RIR5 was the perfect way to unleash something new - but all we got was the RIR3 setlist with two new songs (Better & IRS), no mention of CD, no real mention of ANYTHING that's been going on lately...he didn't talk to the audience much at all...
NYC was another prime chance and he played a lot of 2002 setlists with a few new songs as well.
I just don't get it...you'd think he'd change the setlist, at least offer something FRESH to people, to avoid another 2002 scenario. Put in some new songs nobody's heard at RIR, plug Chinese Democracy, play some old UYI era songs, etc.
Whatever.
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Finck was garbage tonight, but what is new about that? He always sucks. Fortus used to be average but he's surpassed Finck by a lot.
I agree.
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You're forgetting that 2002 was a Chinese Democracy world tour (according to Boston promos and press releases). He may not have said that this time around, but everyone knows where the band is right now and what they've been working on. It's not like Axl dropping the name "Chinese Democracy" would cause a lot of people to say, "Huh?" Everyone who goes to a GN'R concert knows the history behind CD to some extent, and is expecting to hear stuff from it.
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And to think, there are people on this very forum who would entertain the suggestion that he's better than Slash or Buckethead
Slash plays with soul. He may not be the best technical player ever but he plays with passion. That's not something you can learn or be taught - it's something you feel.
Buckethead - as much as I don't like him - is a great technical player. He can shred. He doesn't play with passion, though.
Robin Finck does neither. He has no passion and no skill IMO. I'm not claiming to be a great guitar player but I hate the way he plays and at times he sounds like a very amateur guitar player trying to learn a new song. He's just very average in my opinion and his style is lame. I also hate those stupid faces he makes when he plays - there's a difference between getting into a song (Hendrix a prime example, and Slash) and seemingly orgasming to a song (Finck). I mean, he looks like he's blowing his load every time he hits a note. Not very easy to watch.
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, and couldn't wait to get a drink off stage (hence the amazing amount of solos).
And what makes you think he drinks during that time? Where you there? Axl even stated on a radio show how alcohol screws up his voice so he stays away from it. I hate these dumb assumptions.
Water, you idiot. Not booze. That would be the worst thing during a performance.
Didn't you notice how he had a water bottle nearby and grabbed it every time he went off stage?
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Fortus and Bumblefoot were amazing. But Finck sucked throughout. His solo on NR was terrible - the other two guys did a great job. I don't know why Axl ever hired him. I don't think he did a single solo I dug this entire evening.
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rir 3
btw, they didn't play madagascar at the hob
the very simple reason is that buckethead had the most amazing playing
for example, during madagascar's solo bucket's tapping his foot while playing it almost looking bored as he dows these amazing things, and it's get a view from his feet upwards, and he looks larger than life
during patience when bucket's got the accoustic axl puts his hand on bucket and bucket looks up, and right there you can tell what a great pair they could've been
but i haven't seen the video of rir 5, i'll look tommorrow
I've never been a Buckethead Head (he he) but I like during RIR 3, at the start of It's So Easy, when Axl runs down the ramp and Buckethead kinda jumps down after him - they did have a bit of chemistry on stage at times. I never really liked BH though because I could never even tell when he was playing, he just stood in the corner most of the time and really did nothing - people have said Ron is too subdued during performances but I can't recall Buckethead ever really doing much on stage in terms of movement, energy, etc.
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Nightrain and Out Ta Get Me sounded awesome. It's funny because his voice was vastly better on the Appetite tracks than in 2001 and 2002, back then he couldn't handle them, now he handles them a lot better than some of the UYI and CD material.
NR was an absolute highlight.
Downs - too many solos, bad transmission and audio glitches on our side, Axl was really out of breath at times and just didn't have the energy he used to have, there wasn't much chemistry with the rest of the band, Robin Finck sucked and they played a pretty shitty setlist over all - not that they were bad songs or anything, but it was too similar to what we've had before - he should have done some other stuff, even if not new songs then at least some random UYI / other Appetite stuff.
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RIR3. Axl's voice was shit and he looked like shit too but he had better attitude ("Get that guy outta here!"), better presence. Axl really started out well at RIR5 but quickly faded out. NR was the highlight, Out Ta Get Me was awesome, but it seemed like he was going through the motions towards the end, and couldn't wait to get a drink off stage (hence the amazing amount of solos).
Of course, RIR3 was the first time we had heard new material. Even though his voice sucked it was overwhelming. We didn't hear anything new this time, so the excitement dropped a great deal. Axl's speech to the crowd at the end of RIR3 was also very touching and this time he just seemed like he couldn't wait to get out of there.
I'm saying RIR3 by a long shot.
Well, if you are going by that logic RIR 5 is the first time we've heard Better, I.R.S. and There Was A Time. Seeing as Madascar, The Blues, Chinese Democracy were unleashed at House Of Blues in 01 before Rio.
Big difference - Blues, Madagascar, CD, etc. weren't leaked as DEMOS onto the Internet, downloaded by (probably) hundreds of thousands (maybe more) people, get exposure online as a controversy and get played on radio stations.
Most of the people there knew the demos by now, as do all of us watching. They're vastly more popular than those HOB songs were before RIR3, most people hadn't heard them then.
Axl has also played the three song leaks numerous times already - NYC, Spain, etc.
Plus, he didn't play TWAT tonight.
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RIR3. Axl's voice was shit and he looked like shit too but he had better attitude ("Get that guy outta here!"), better presence. Axl really started out well at RIR5 but quickly faded out. NR was the highlight, Out Ta Get Me was awesome, but it seemed like he was going through the motions towards the end, and couldn't wait to get a drink off stage (hence the amazing amount of solos).
Of course, RIR3 was the first time we had heard new material. Even though his voice sucked it was overwhelming. We didn't hear anything new this time, so the excitement dropped a great deal. Axl's speech to the crowd at the end of RIR3 was also very touching and this time he just seemed like he couldn't wait to get out of there.
I'm saying RIR3 by a long shot.
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Initial reaction: severe disappointment.
Good vocals on Axl's behalf, Thal was great, but RIR3 had so much more excitement at the end...remember when he gave that dramatic speech at the end and went out in Axl fashion? During It's So Easy when he kicked the guy out? And so on and so forth?
I kinda miss some of that enthusiasm. Axl seemed more to be going through the motions here.
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The rasp at the end of Patience = 2002 = shit.
I thought it wouldn't sound like Mickey this time, considering how awesome RQ, YCBM and OTGM were.
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Another self-referential reference/forum reference - asking people if they thought he'd really show or not.
I like how he says "we" instead of "I," though.
BTW - I think the perfect way to end this show would be for him to bring a copy of Chinese Democracy on stage, show the cover on the big screen, and give us a release date. Knowing how he likes to always end big performances (RIR3, VMA, NYC, etc.) with big surprises or revelations - it's possible.
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the rant before the drum solo was obiously directed at the boards, i mean, drum solos are one of the most hated things about new gnr. ( and old gnr too ).
A LOT of the stuff has been directed at us tonight.
"Oh, Axl isn't doing any rants."
References to song downloads.
References to drum solos.
And so on...
Axl - at the top of his game at RIR?
in 2006
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Yeah, he should have played new songs, or at least done something unique and surprising. It's very stale now - the setlist, everything. And he's lost a lot of the enthusiasm and theatrical spirit he had during RIR - no dramatic intro or farewell speeches, it was just kind of straightforward. Even their PC encore wasn't that amazing, it was a sub-par performance of the song in general if you ask me.
VMAs '02 sucked vocally but goddamnit there was more PASSION in that performance - PC (especially the end) was breathtaking based solely on the mass chaos and energy on Axl's behalf. RIR5 lacked that all very much.