Slashahaulic

Haven't you been ripped apart enough on here already? Even the people that support your side are telling you to shut up. Do yourself a favor and listen to them. Funny how you only choose to attack me here, the only forum that will allow you to do so since you've been put in your place everywhere else.

What other forums has this happened in?

it hasn't happened anywhere. He always tries to get into confrontations with me on another board, but the mods have never ever ever given me a hard time for his shit. like i said, he's just a silly slash cupcake who doesn't even support the band and he's only here to give shit to the real fans of this band .

Interesting interpretation. I wonder if they would say the same thing. I would guess not, but you seem to live in a dream world anyway, so don't let me keep you from living there. Leave reality to the rest of us.

Silly Slash cupcakes just say I love Slash or Slash rocks. I tell it the way it is, and nutcases don't want to hear the truth because they want to believe that Axl and the new band is perfect and that isn't the case.

Life goes on for me regardless of people like dillusional - even with his head so far up Axls ass that he knows what was for dinner yesterday.

No surprise it didn't sell out (or at least hasn't yet). He couldn't sell out the US with this act before, what makes you think he'll sell it out now? There are too many things to spend entertainment dollars on to blow $150 on a cover band. Shit, you can see other GnR cover bands for 10% the price or less and get the same songs and cheaper beer.

$150 to see Slash, Izzy, Duff, and whoever drumming - well worth it.

$150 to see a cover band play the same songs again - no thanks, and that is why it isn't selling out fast.

Reality is going to slap Axl in the face if he thinks he can tour the US with no CD release and the same old tired act and be successful. This isn't Europe. We have other things to do than see a has been and a bunch of never beens. Without a CD release to give this band some hope for credibility, failure is the only option. America isn't full of people like Axls Dillusional...we won't accept anything just because someone purchased a brand name.

boy is this post dumb. have you not realized izzy has been pretty much at all the shows, and im assuming he will be here too.

sooo....

axl, dizzy, izzy is greater than slash and duff (no disrespect at all to them), so there goes your whole point.

sorry pal, time to run along now.

By including Dizzy, you've just lost your point. Other than whoever happens to be the drummer and the effects guy, Dizzy is the biggest waste of space on stage.

GnR is Axl, Slash, Izzy and Duff. Last time I checked, they have been successful on every album that involved these 4. I'm fairly sure that after 8 years together, the "fantasic musicians" haven't produced a single piece of material that was successful, much less an album. Now they can't sell out shows that would have sold out in a second with the 4 I mentioned playing them.

Way to make a strong point.

haha ya he's the same guy who says its a fact that axl has a bad voice he's just a silly slash cupcake. pay no mind to his posts.

Haven't you been ripped apart enough on here already? Even the people that support your side are telling you to shut up. Do yourself a favor and listen to them. Funny how you only choose to attack me here, the only forum that will allow you to do so since you've been put in your place everywhere else.

By the way, Axl never has had a good sustainable live voice, never has outside of the studio. For some reason, he never has been able to reproduce anything close to the studio voice live other than brief spurts. That is not an opinion. You may choose to like his live voice, that's fine, but he can't even come close to replicating his studio sound, even when he's standing still.

And yet, here we are, same shit just 4 years later...Axl once again going on tour with no album or single out...why? Who really cares at this point to hear the old material played by guys that didn't write the music? I would have more respect for Axl if he released this thing the way Brian Williams did SMILE and just go to a venue like Radio City Music Hall, invite die hards and the media to hear Chinese D played song 1-13, in order.

Enough with the old Axl, time to usher in the new era for Guns. It's so retarded that in August 2006 we are still without a single.

funny you are calling something retarded.

if you dont want to hear the old songs, dont go to the show. problem solved. if you are tired of waiting for chinese democracy, stop waiting. problem solved.

Jesus, could you please get your head out of Axl's ass?

criticalsolution: couldnt agree more with you rock1

A lot of people agree - he's been getting hammered on here more than Kaneda lately, and that's pretty hard to do. Watch out Markyboy - you may have company soon.

No surprise it didn't sell out (or at least hasn't yet). He couldn't sell out the US with this act before, what makes you think he'll sell it out now? There are too many things to spend entertainment dollars on to blow $150 on a cover band. Shit, you can see other GnR cover bands for 10% the price or less and get the same songs and cheaper beer.

$150 to see Slash, Izzy, Duff, and whoever drumming - well worth it.

$150 to see a cover band play the same songs again - no thanks, and that is why it isn't selling out fast.

Reality is going to slap Axl in the face if he thinks he can tour the US with no CD release and the same old tired act and be successful. This isn't Europe. We have other things to do than see a has been and a bunch of never beens. Without a CD release to give this band some hope for credibility, failure is the only option. America isn't full of people like Axls Dillusional...we won't accept anything just because someone purchased a brand name.

I do agree with you Europe is a different market. They need a lot more exposure than they have already to do well in the states... although some places they can sell out without anything I'm sure.

LP

Someone should have told Axl where in 2002 - he obviously picked the wrong cities.

I don't know how being laughing stock of music business works in Axl's favour. Most people think not releasing any music for 10 years is ridicilous. Except for us so-called true fans

There are too many people at GnR sites that think that just because they love the new band, the rest of the world does too, which isn't the case. But you can't tell them that. The truth is that there are too many people that still think Slash is in GnR, there are too many people that have no idea who ANY of the members besides Axl are.

People aren't going to pay big dollars over and over again to see a cover band. They need to release new material and tour using mostly that new material or GnR will cease to exist within a couple years.

You post some interesting things, I'll give you that. What I want to know is how you can still post these things and others are threatened with banning if they go so far as to say anything that isn't glowing about the new band. Why the double standard?

If you think he does or ever did sound good through any one show (I'm just asking for one whole show - any one out of the hundreds or thousands that he's done), I would return the derogatory term. He's never been able to do a whole show sounding good. He has moments, but they are few and far between and the rest is hard to listen to. Don't shoot the messenger if you don't like the message.

but the message is your personal opinion, not fact. And certainly not the opinion of your average GNR fan.

Because God knows people like you are so objective. LOL

The message is fact, unless you can point to any entire show where he was on - heck, I'll even let him have one bad song and you STILL won't find a show. It is what it is and no matter how much you choose to attack me, that won't change what it is.

right because Slashahaulic is very objective and not the least bit bitter that Axl is touring under the name Guns N Roses without his precious Slash.

Most of the shows from this summer Axl was dead on, and thats my opinion.

He couldn't sing long before Slash left. What else do ya got? It's been well known even going back to the AFD tours.

Sorry that the truth doesn't work for you, but you can't change it.

For the last time, it's not the truth or fact you idiot... it's your OPINION.

Axl's inability to sing live doesn't stop me from loving GnR, I just accept their limitations. Slash sucked ass on some live shows - likely because he was wasted. I still like Axl, I still like Slash. Reality isn't so bad.

If you think he does or ever did sound good through any one show (I'm just asking for one whole show - any one out of the hundreds or thousands that he's done), I would return the derogatory term. He's never been able to do a whole show sounding good. He has moments, but they are few and far between and the rest is hard to listen to. Don't shoot the messenger if you don't like the message.

but the message is your personal opinion, not fact. And certainly not the opinion of your average GNR fan.

Because God knows people like you are so objective. LOL

The message is fact, unless you can point to any entire show where he was on - heck, I'll even let him have one bad song and you STILL won't find a show. It is what it is and no matter how much you choose to attack me, that won't change what it is.

right because Slashahaulic is very objective and not the least bit bitter that Axl is touring under the name Guns N Roses without his precious Slash.

Most of the shows from this summer Axl was dead on, and thats my opinion.

He couldn't sing long before Slash left. What else do ya got? It's been well known even going back to the AFD tours.

Sorry that the truth doesn't work for you, but you can't change it.

If you think he does or ever did sound good through any one show (I'm just asking for one whole show - any one out of the hundreds or thousands that he's done), I would return the derogatory term. He's never been able to do a whole show sounding good. He has moments, but they are few and far between and the rest is hard to listen to. Don't shoot the messenger if you don't like the message.

but the message is your personal opinion, not fact. And certainly not the opinion of your average GNR fan.

Because God knows people like you are so objective. LOL

The message is fact, unless you can point to any entire show where he was on - heck, I'll even let him have one bad song and you STILL won't find a show. It is what it is and no matter how much you choose to attack me, that won't change what it is.

Fuck all you negative creeps. Robin has put years of commitment to this band - he should be the LAST one to go. Why do you guys always have to bring him down? Those who dont do - criticise I guess.

dude you need to go over to newgnr.com. then come back here and admit how wrong you are.

I'm not wrong, and any site called newgnr isn't somewhere I have any interest in being - at least until they accomplish something.

Axl isn't a good singer. That is a fact, not an opinion. He is a great frontman. There is a major difference between the two. He sounds good when edited in the studio and singing in a controlled environment. It's ok - there's nothing wrong with being a great frontman and not so great of a singer. Why do you assume that is an insult?

Omigod youve got to be kidding right? Axl is a superb singer live. I watch 'Rockstar Supanova' and all the singers on there dont even come close. Whats the bet you havent seen him live ah?

Seen him live and he was bad. Live singing is not his strong point. Again, there's nothing wrong with not being good singing live. Axl isn't perfect (for the few who hadn't noticed that).

Axl's voice is not what it was but if you think that he has never had a good live singing voice... well, I can't think of a derogatory term that would do justice to your stupidity to be honest.

If you think he does or ever did sound good through any one show (I'm just asking for one whole show - any one out of the hundreds or thousands that he's done), I would return the derogatory term. He's never been able to do a whole show sounding good. He has moments, but they are few and far between and the rest is hard to listen to. Don't shoot the messenger if you don't like the message.

Fuck all you negative creeps. Robin has put years of commitment to this band - he should be the LAST one to go. Why do you guys always have to bring him down? Those who dont do - criticise I guess.

dude you need to go over to newgnr.com. then come back here and admit how wrong you are.

I'm not wrong, and any site called newgnr isn't somewhere I have any interest in being - at least until they accomplish something.

Axl isn't a good singer. That is a fact, not an opinion. He is a great frontman. There is a major difference between the two. He sounds good when edited in the studio and singing in a controlled environment. It's ok - there's nothing wrong with being a great frontman and not so great of a singer. Why do you assume that is an insult?

Omigod youve got to be kidding right? Axl is a superb singer live. I watch 'Rockstar Supanova' and all the singers on there dont even come close. Whats the bet you havent seen him live ah?

Seen him live and he was bad. Live singing is not his strong point. Again, there's nothing wrong with not being good singing live. Axl isn't perfect (for the few who hadn't noticed that).

stupid fuckhead. Nobody can sing like Axl!Slash cant even play fuckin guitar, but he have that amazing feel. Technical hes nothin compare to the new guys

I beg to differ with both of your claims..

you-tube is down..otherwise I'd post you a few links of coverbands that can sing just as good as Axl..

HA!!!!..

that Slash part made me laugh though..

seriously..I cant stop.. !!..

you say "technically hes nothing compared to the new guys."

how can you say this..when there playing shit that Slash wrote??..

and, Slash can play guitar...

and, I agree with Mango...

I've heard some cover bands that sound more like Guns n Roses than the one that just got done touring Europe.

Axl is (not was, is) a great frontman, but his singing is average at best. I still can't figure out why people get so defensive over that. It's not like he suddenly forgot how to sing - it was never his strong point. Nobody is good at everything, not even Axl Rose.

i think izzy done most dates on the tour so there was more than just axl as an original member of gnr, who knows if he will do the american tour but i think it was to help the crowd get used to the new band and give them more of a chance

Yeah, I think Axl wants Izzy there so the new band can get some credibility.

Well, that worked. What's his next idea?

I'd say Izzy sticks around until the next time Axl pisses him off or tries to take money away from him.

dude you need to go over to newgnr.com. then come back here and admit how wrong you are.

I'm not wrong, and any site called newgnr isn't somewhere I have any interest in being - at least until they accomplish something.

Axl isn't a good singer. That is a fact, not an opinion. He is a great frontman. There is a major difference between the two. He sounds good when edited in the studio and singing in a controlled environment. It's ok - there's nothing wrong with being a great frontman and not so great of a singer. Why do you assume that is an insult?

Axl's never been a good singer live, why do you expect him to be now?

That made me laugh, a lot!!

Be careful when you use the word NEVER!!

OK - point made about the use of the word never. I did hear a part of Rocket Queen from this tour where he actually sounded great. The point is, there are a few times where he sounds good, but he's not a great singer live and wasn't even in his younger days. They/he re-recorded his voice on the live era for a reason. It's about Axl the frontman, not Axl the opera singer.

Yeah, saw it 4 times on the UK tour

It's scrappy and patchy. When you're in the pit moshing like a maniac you don't notice it's sub-par, but listening to any bootleg it's obvious.

Dude come on. If anyone is sub par on 'Sweet Child' it's Axl Rose, he really struggles to sing that now. I would go as far to say that Robin's take on the solo is more exciting than Slash's. Obviously full credit must go to the guy who writes the song but don't hit on Robin for being awesome at it.

The guy is charasmatic as hell and he is exactly the thing needed in GN'R. That 'larger-than-life' guitarist! Maybe Bucket was the man and maybe he wasn't, hell maybe he'll be back because I don't think any of us can realistically see Bumblefoot in there for the long run. At this moment in time I'm delighted with the guitar system in GN'R.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05fMlSGlLfk

Example of what I mean, Robin is untouchable here and Axl sucks.

Axl's never been a good singer live, why do you expect him to be now?

As for Finck - he's nowhere near as good as any guitarist that has been in GnR ever (with the possible exception of Paul Tobias).

Chicago, April 9, 1992

Chicago 1992

The carribean drum beat by brain and frank!

cool answer! I was going to put that third, behind Finck's background vocals, and Fincks guitar.

You seriuosly need to get Finck's dick out of your mouth before you try posting.

Axl. He could fire every other member tomorrow and nobody would blink and nobody would even remember this lineup in 5 years.

Anybody that wants to see the end of New GnR should support Axl living off of the old material in any way possible. If he releases any old material rerecorded, GnR will be done except for a reunion of the old lineup. Do you really think Axl wants to re-release the old stuff? All that says is that their new music sucks and they just want your money (which is kind of what the current and 2002 tours said as well). Despite what you read here, GnR's popularity isn't spiking, it's declining.

Is it odd that the best of the new songs (and in some people's opinion, the only good new song) wasn't written by Axl?

A year ago today, if you would of asked any of the haters what they would of done to see GNR live again, they would of said anything...but now that GNR are back on tour, kicking ass and sounding better then ever, you have a group of people that consistantly find stupid shit to bitch about.

I'm just wondering what the same people will be bitching about when the album is finally released..

1) Cover art?

2) Not enough songs?

3) No thank you to the fans in the jacket?

I'm sure the stupidest little shit will be bitched about until no end. Give Axl and company a break!

It's very safe to say Axl has been given plenty of breaks by the fans and the record company.

no release date maybe just never guitarists cant fuckin play and its a fuckin tribute band fronted by an old fucked up hasbeen who could have been a legend. guns n roses had two front men not one but two that what u all forget u all label me a hater maybe i am i fuckin hate how he destroyed the coolest band on the planet if they were still together( the original members) they would make u2 seem like amateurs.

Lennon Mcartney

Waters Glimour

Daltrey Townsend

Simon Garfunkel

The Gallaghers (oasis)

and finally axl and slash my point is most of these guys couldnt stand each other but made great fuckin tunes the best together paul mcartney cant write shit any more, waters went down hill in the songwriting too but he was the main force behind floyd when they were altogether, i been a gnr fan since the beginning but im sorry i now lost interest in this circus that calls itself a band i just come here to see the downloads of the old band and i did have curiosity in seeing what axl was doing even a bit excited in 2002 but its beyond a fuckin joke now, aye im right into vr but a lot of you slag scott fair enough but the guys did spend about 2 years lookin for a singer and must have been getting pissed but now they are doing what they love an thats making tunes and fuck me but RELEASING ALBUMS and touring for a couple of years and the fucking music rocks the solos on loving the alien are fuckin sheer class and if you lot cant hear the class of the musician ship on contraband when this band was just gelling together and growing then your fucking deaf. And worst of all to the cunts that are slating slash and theres a lot of you go fuck yourselves there would never have been a guns n roses without him and youll never be guns n roses fans your just members of the axl arse lick club your not worthy to call yourselves guns n roses fans.

id bet my life these other guys havent written a class solo on this mythical album like loving the alien or even a good a song which is fuckin simple but sometimes the best.

my point is in 2000 when axl started playing gigs i was really fucking excited downloading the gigs thinking i the tunes are ok but i missed the old band, but where are we now fuckin 3006 and still fuck all well ive had enough waiting for the impossible and sick of all you axl worshippers slating the old school fans for speaking there minds about there disapointment of the destruction of there faveourite band and it was destroyed mainly down to being impossible for the guys to work with axl. Im just glad the rest of the old members are out there doing gigs over two years long and well on their way to releasing their second album and touring all over again so i can enjoy it all agin.(and to all the vr slater im saying now youyll never be GUNS N ROSES fans just the axl rose arse lick club cause these guys made the fucking band in the first place.

A band is a solid unit friendship going through his and lows together, this tribute band is a fucking dictator ship led by one man and before you start saying im wrong here think to your selves, why is it none of the HIRED help say anything about the album, its because their scared theyll get fired and sued because they have to sign confidentiality and all that bullshit, that aint a band its a badly run fucking business Guns n roses was declared bankrupt years ago i wanna see a band that are doing it for the fans and love what their doing which this tribute act is not their not even looking after the fans, yes you im talking to the pricks who call the likes of me a hater why is yous saviour not giving you the albums you deserve? And you do deserve them.

ive made some valid points here and i would like to see some valid arguments not like go fuck slash you fucker or anything, axl has been quoted in thanking slash for his contribution to estranged which is one of my personal favourites he said he couldnt have written that song without slash and that is why it is no longer played live but it should be cause personally i think its the best song axl has ever fuckin written came straight from his heart but we wouldnt have ever heard it if it wasnt for slash working some magic too. just another point of a great songwriting partnership.

So to all the cunts who have no time for debate cause there too busy licking out someones hole and slagging the vr boys which does piss me off cause as i said before they made guns n roses not just one man, they helped put axl where he WAS, and they are looking after the real fans by giving us music unlike axl apart from a few shitty demos and a couple of very poor live performances you aint the real fans.

Ive just lost interest in the whole thing now that is a fuckin circus but you keep beliving i hope you get what your after.

Making valid points and asking for discussion has gotten many people banned from this place - sad fact. Support Axl or NEVER post in the main section are your only 2 options. There is such a fear in the supporters that any valid points will somehow undermine the tour (or this site) - I don't get it, but fear is the only logical reason for their stance. The tour isn't going to end based off of a discussion at mygnr.

do you think he owns a copy?

Yes. In the same way Duff, Matt and Slash will own ChiDem.

They will all probably download them.

The only thing standing in Axl's way is Axl.