illfigja

quite possible indeed. and when someone left the band, the new person went into the studio and carbon copied their instrumentation. that happened twelve times or so over the years, adding to the delays.

I don't think Axl is going to allow Scraped, This I Love, or Sorry to be one of the remaining singles.

Street of Dreams or Better would probably be good choices. But with only 23 days left until release, will they even have two more? Maybe one...

what possible fucking information do you have to suggest that isnt more than a brain fart that activated your typing instinct?

hooray! anyone else think the singles will be randomly pulled out of a fans ass from junk science deductions based on a complete lack of knowledge of the music industry, radio, and what the controlling hands of the album think? next time you get an urge to start a thread, head to the bathroom instead.

Lack of knowledge vs. Senseless insults

Which one is actually better?

He clearly said he was just basing it off what we've seen so far. Not to mention the fact that he was just asking what other people thought.

I think apes would reply more intelligently to most of these threads sometimes.

not senseless. theres nothing smart about posting this crap. pick up a better cause.

hooray! anyone else think the singles will be randomly pulled out of a fans ass from junk science deductions based on a complete lack of knowledge of the music industry, radio, and what the controlling hands of the album think? next time you get an urge to start a thread, head to the bathroom instead.

Its funny, after all of this, If all we get is 1 album, I might actually be a bit dissapointed. By one album I don't mean 1 album every 2 years, I mean exactly that, just 1 solitary album. Its probably my own fault that I have got all wrapped up in this idea of multiple albums but I'm almost expecting that now.

Given the history of this process though, we should probably be grateful for anything.........

blah blah blah! blah blah? BLAH! blahblahblahblahblah.

i was thinking this exclusive deal with best buy might be about keeping the album from leaking before the release. i understand there are different deals for overseas, but the initial release date via best buy could keep the production of the cds and their distribution down to a minimum and this way no excessive promo copies need be made and no schmoozing has to take place with various retailers and individuals, making for a simple manufacturing, packaging in the weeks before and shipping to outlets the previous day with a "do not open before" label on the crate.

anyway, pure speculation, but it seems a rational reason for an exclusive deal through one retailer.

only through best buy.. but giving it 7 days before it hits the charts to help it place high.. if he/they/whoever is in charge of the album at this point is concerned with high first week sales.. TRY SELLING THE FUCKING ALBUM SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN BEST BUY

This isn't a fucking official source, change the title man. I was expecting a link to either the Best Buy website or the gunsnroses.com, and this is neither, so it's not official.

fair enough, I changed "official" to reliable. But blabbermouth saying that, without a question mark, is VERY reliable. they're putting their balls out on the block.

I think you need to read the first sentence of the story a little closer. They are not reporting that CD has a release date, they are reporting to HITS saying that CD has a release date:

According to Hits Daily Double, the companion web site of music industry tip sheet HITS, GUNS N' ROSES' long-awaited new album, "Chinese Democracy" (Geffen/Interscope) finally has a release date.

So, if this doesn't pan out, blabbermouth hasnt put anything on the block. They didnt say that the album is coming, they just said that somebody else said that the album is coming.

I'm not arguing with you but "according to or not. Blabbermouth IS putting them on the block when they present it as fact. Just how I'm getting shit for saying "blabbermouth said . . ."

the thread shouldn't say "confirmed."

"confirmed" is exactly what it should say. changed. and thanks

This isn't a fucking official source, change the title man. I was expecting a link to either the Best Buy website or the gunsnroses.com, and this is neither, so it's not official.

fair enough, I changed "official" to reliable. But blabbermouth saying that, without a question mark, is VERY reliable. they're putting their balls out on the block.

GUNS N' ROSES' 'Chinese Democracy' Finally Has A Release Date -

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermo...wsitemID=106510

BLABBERMOUTH, love them or hate them, IS an official source and there is no question mark on their post. They take this as confirmation, NOT rumor.

Yeah, but right at the start of the article it says:

According to Hits Daily Double

I'm not saying this info will turn out to be false, but right now they're all running off the same website as their source, just like Billboard was the source for all those Best Buy Exclusive news articles last month.

Most Blabbermouth articles start with "according to", it doesn't mean anything either way. Blabbermouth might have pasted the story, or contacted Hits Daily Double to confirm. Regardless, I'm suspecting by the end of the day this will clear itself up.

GUNS N' ROSES' 'Chinese Democracy' Finally Has A Release Date -

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermo...wsitemID=106510

BLABBERMOUTH, love them or hate them, IS a reliable source and there is no question mark on their post. They take this as confirmation, NOT rumor.

Does CD need the gimmicky release date to ensure a top spot? Why does it matter that it makes #1 on the billboard anyway? Did Axl threaten to kill himself if it didn't?

**I posted this thread because Blabbermouth saying this IS news. If any OFFICIAL confirmation, such as gnr.com, Best Buy etc comes around today, I'll update.**

I WOULD NEVER PAY FOR A NIN RECORD AND I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER THAN TO DOWNLOAD A FREE ONE...

So if you hate them so much, why waste your time going to their site, downloading it and listening to it, assuming you even bothered listening to it. My money goes on you not even hearing it and just using these forums to mouth off and impress people with your angst.

<-- Not impressed.

GOD forbid I give an old band a second chance ..................

old? chance? neither apply.

"nin sucks, the album was rushed, im glad it was free"

pearls before swine? only pigs would bitch about a free album from a mainstream artist that continually evolves in style and fights for the rights of fans.

although, since most GnR fans are either too drunk to download something or still tweaking from a seven-month crack binge in 1985, do whatever makes you feel better.

Is that Robins guitar tho?...

highly doubt it

Trent does mostly everything himself in the studio versions

trent writes the majority of the material, but doesn't perform all of it

that is a video of the recording of a song from fragile. youll see robin and a few others.. like 8 or so ppl involved.

that video is fan made btw

This is really the official video for the Nine Inch Nails dance sensation "Discipline." Seriously. I wouldn't lie to you.

From: carnecabeza

that video is official. fan made? still official.

Is that Robins guitar tho?...

highly doubt it

Trent does mostly everything himself in the studio versions

trent writes the majority of the material, but doesn't perform all of it

that is a video of the recording of a song from fragile. youll see robin and a few others.. like 8 or so ppl involved.

The two threads on this topic were merged...an edit was required as a result so the thread flowed.

There is no proof Robin is on this so it goes in My World...for now.

nin.com

links to video

Well, it fucking sucks.

It sounds like something Tommy Lee would do.

I used to like this band but now unless they come up with some new lyrical content...

This is NIN when they were good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzE9jZQJGu4...feature=related

you can imagine what nin fans think of those who quote something similar to "oh nin? i love that fuck you like an animal song"

The song is not bad but not great.

I'm jealous of NIN fans tho, theses guys are spoiled !

I'm not...I'd rather wait for something special than to feel unsatisfied with sub-par material like this new song.

I'm a nine inch nails fan and a robin finck fanatic but this song really does feel like it was written in an hour.

in the words of scott weiland: 'feeling uninspired'

there is a priceless comedic quality to Guns N Roses fans saying another groups material sounds rushed.

And you're right, still mostly assumptions.. but leading assumptions.

Let's leave it at that for now shall we?

I have family in London, we could be related.

Proof is a matter of deduction.

Translated:you don't have a source

** I also want to add that its absurd "official" verification is needed to show Robin is on this track, while a handful of threads are allowed about robin quitting gnr when there hasnt even been a single comment made about robin's gnr status

hooray for double standards!

I see three Robin threads in the News section regarding the NIN situation..

One's titled "Robin's status",one's titled "Robin taking a break from GnR",one's titled "Izzy to replace Robin Finck in GnR."

One got closed...know why?...unverified information.

Speculating within a thread is one thing,starting a misleading thread is another.What was the title of your thread again??"CONFIRMATION Robin Finck has left GnR and rejoined NIN??"...something along those lines I do believe.

Someone had already started the new NIN song thread before you (in the appropriate section) anyway...so,it was merge your thread or send it to Dust n Bones.

when moses comes down the hill with the tablets saying robin is on the track, perhaps my powers of deduction will be given at least a percentage of the credit its deserved.

"New NIN single featuring robin

possible confirmation of robins future" the history of my posts on the topic will reveal my refusal to jump to conclusions and nose for the facts, in regards to news items.

i put it in the news section because it is the hotbed for 'whats new with robin,' and this certainly qualifies. you will agree when my intuition is shown to be as valuable, if not more so, than most people's facts. thank you for keeping a tight leash on this board, which is a rabid pitbull in heat, on slow nights.

The two threads on this topic were merged...an edit was required as a result so the thread flowed.

There is no proof Robin is on this so it goes in My World...for now.

Proof is a matter of deduction. Robin rejoined two weeks ago, or whenever. Shots posted on nin.com of robin in the studio. The single was mastered yesterday. If robin isnt on the single, the nin camp went out of their way to fool everyone or keep him off it.

** I also want to add that its absurd "official" verification is needed to show Robin is on this track, while a handful of threads are allowed about robin quitting gnr when there hasnt even been a single comment made about robin's gnr status

hooray for double standards!

I gotta say, as a huge NIN fan, this song is pretty "by the book" for post Fragile NIN singles. I like the song, but I was expecting something else, and am not blown away. I'm sure it will still be a great album, though.

ilfigia, that backs up my OPINION.

Other people are perfectly entitled to their own. If you love the song and think it's great fine, thats YOUR OPINION. Mine is that its middle of the road for them, for the reasons I pointed out.

I see no reason why you should be entitled to an opinion.

not that I care, cause I'd prefer robin out of the band...but

you said he recorded on a song and is going to tour

then went to say he's not just a studio/touring musician?

How does that work? Song=studio/Tour=touring.

Right, I meant his involvement is appearing beyond casual, that he took Axl's GnR Wicca Star off his taint and replaced it with Trent's NIN logo.

As I posted in the now disappeared thread, the song shows it was written in an hour. The vocals are uninspired, the song goes nowhere and the guitar work is generic.

I've liked a few NIN songs in the past, so it's not just a bitter reaction, it's just a very average song, nothing at all to get worked up about. Pure filler.

Right, well it takes me more than a couple of times hearing a song [most songs] before I JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS. But that's just me. Thanks for taking the time to insult something you probably don't understand, but I forgive because that's all us GnR fans have been able to do for over a thousand years.

Get over yourself. I've not insulted anyone or anything, it is just my OPINION that the song isn't that great, it's certainly not anything to get excited about. For genuine NIN fans it will be good, but it's not as though it's a great song by their standards.

The only way to insult a song more than you did would be to.. wait, you cant insult a song more than you did. "shows it was written in an hour" "vocals are uninspired" "song goes nowhere" "guitar work is generic" "very average" "nothing at all to get worked up about" "pure filler"

if that isnt insulting a song, what is?