dopesmoker

Pantera, had the glam image. That's how you got noticed in the 80's. Gn'r had the glam image but they weren't a glam band...

So becuase Pantera, was commercially successful that makes them bad?

You're once again assuming people who listen to stuff that people are aware that they don't listen to underground stuff. Fuck I listen to Death, Le Tigre, Angelfish, Garbage, and not a lot of people know about it. Doesn't mean I should stop myself from listening to Pantera and Led Zeppelin becuase they are well known.

Yes, the #'s of sales do mean a lot of a album was commercially successful that something no one can deny. But that doesn't mean if the record is good or bad. a NYSNC album could've sold more than a Misfits album that doesn't mean that The Misfits album isn't as good as the NYSNC album due to it's sales.

I whole heartily agree with you about people telling you about what to do especially with music. It reminds me of a Denis Leary quote from No Cure For Cancer

"I hate these band's that get a hit video on MTV and think they can tell you how you can feel n shit. Like R.E.M."

I hate people like you who think you're cool for listening to shit 3 fucking people have heard of and praise it as it's the 2nd coming of Christ. I like a lot of stuff genres from Rap, Punk, to Metal. It's just impossible to assosicate yourself sometimes with the fans of these genres.

Metal for example "YA METALLICA ROCKS EVERYTHING ELSE SUCKS"

If a "redneck" calls you a cocksucker or tells you to suck cock. Why stoop to their level. Since you feel that your superior to them you're not better than feeding their fire. I don't have a problem with you saying something against Dime's playing ability if you give reason's which I have yet to see you do. But keep the personal shit to yourself. I doubt you'd like if one of us "Rednecks" were to say something offensive about John Lennon and you would.

-If you don't like Pantera that's fine with me just give reason's why

-Same with Dime as a guitar player

-But don't say personal shit about a great guitar who we lost tragically.

Oh, and I hope you actually respond to this post unlike you ignoring my previous one.

I already said why I think his guitar playing sucks and why I think groove metal sucks in my last post. If somebody wants to say something bad about Lennon, be my guest. He's dead and neither one of us could give a fuck less. If somebody wants to bad mouth Ian from Minor Threat, go ahead. He wouldn't care, I wouldn't care. I just say "OK, next." and not "oh ur just stoopid, you don't get wut sXe is about, ur just a cocksucker." Maybe it was a major faux paus to say all of Pantera's fans are hump rednecks but whatever, the medicine is in the bloodstream now. I've been lurking here for a long time and just trying to get a bead on what everyone likes and it's the same old shit and the same bands and the same usual suspects getting praise. Honestly I don't see what I'm missing by being here. I like GNR and when Appetite first came out I didn't even know what they looked like and didn't until the Illusion records came out. Hell I didn't even know they were still together until I saw that lulz inducing performance at that MTV awards show in 2002.

You cannot relate to fans like me just I cannot relate to your typical meatheaded metal fan. I like my bands but I'm not a raging fanboy of them either so no I don't think they are the next comming of Christ. Axl as that angle pegged down. And because they are commercially accepted isn't my point to begin with. Nothing wrong with being the best but to sacrifice integrity in the name of money and recognition, than fuck you and the horse you and your fans rode in on. It's the people who think X number of albums sold equals greatness, which we agree on. I just don't like bands who think they HAVE to have an image in order to be successful or get gigs. I'd rather watch 4 guys in plain clothes just bash away than a band who has to have a gimmick. Fuck having an "image" period. I'd rather watch a noise band play in a laundrymat with close friends and actually get to see the band than be in a stadium with drunk retards, wannabe badasses, and potential date rapists who I don't know (and don't want to know) and see a band that looks like a bunch of ants from the wonderful balcony view.

I really don't know what else to say so I'll just stop.

Pantera sucks. Groove metal sucks. It's watered down children's music. End of.

Better to be a hooray for tolerance!y bitter old man with taste (that wasn't shoved down my throat by MTV or Metal Edge) than snot nosed emo, oops I mean angsty teenager whose music only goes crunch crunch solo crunch crunch. Metal is a crack whore and you are all happy Johns.

This is why your idol, Axl, isn't going to come back. He said why way back in 1992. Have a listen and let it sink in.

Oh yeah, all rednecks should commit seppuku

Choke on a horse cock.

And with your simpleton response you know I'm right. To be honest I used to like metal but I was a teenager then. When you look at it from a older perspective you know it's just really forced. I don't see or hear anything menancing, just pure redneck noise and if I wanted to hear noise I'd put on Merzbow. I heard openings from shit anime shows that "rock harder" than most metal bands using just electronic equipment.

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So you hate metal?

Not all of it, just the forumalic shit like Pantera. The rock music I grew up with was Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Black Flag, Flipper,etc. The only metal bands I really like and still have their CD's is Cathedral, Saint Vitus, The Obsessed (Dimeball is 1/4 of the guitarist that Wino is) Put in a one tone downtuned guitar, a one note/ one tone bass, a double bass drum that sits in behind the bass and guitar and a guy who sounds like he has constipation and you have groove metal in a nutshell. That's why I hate it. It's like nu-metal, without the rapping.

I think it sucks that people would rather go the commercial route than supporting their own local music scene. The amount of stuff you can find, whether it's hip hop, hardcore punk, harsh noise, electro, metal, garage rock, whatever, on the underground is astounding. Nobody wants to dig for it because they want to be passive consumers and not look at the big picture.

Pantera went from a glam rock band to a metal band so they could sell records. And people are gonna honestly tell me that that's not being a fucking poser and that is not a carefully planned and marketed image to sell albums. Look around this site for crying out loud. They are people who think they are marketing geniuses and talking about getting "the upcomming Guns N Roses album" into Billboard. Fucking numbers man, not music, it's the numbers that count. Music has been pimped enough by suits who, so far, have seemed to be correct in determining the general public's tastes. They tell you what to buy and you do so in droves. It's everything in music I cannot stand and do not want to be a part of.

You can call me a cocksucker or a hooray for tolerance! for not liking "your metal bands" but when you act like a hump redneck, I'm gonna call you a fucking hump redneck. All I did was give a short opinion on what I thought about Pantera, in a semmingly neutral thread, and I got shit for it. Next time name it a fan thread and I'll keep out. These people act like because Dimebag is dead that I dare not say anything bad about him. He might have been the coolest motherfucker in the world to his fans but I still think they suck.

Pantera sucks. Groove metal sucks. It's watered down children's music. End of.

Better to be a hooray for tolerance!y bitter old man with taste (that wasn't shoved down my throat by MTV or Metal Edge) than snot nosed emo, oops I mean angsty teenager whose music only goes crunch crunch solo crunch crunch. Metal is a crack whore and you are all happy Johns.

This is why your idol, Axl, isn't going to come back. He said why way back in 1992. Have a listen and let it sink in.

Oh yeah, all rednecks should commit seppuku

Choke on a horse cock.

And with your simpleton response you know I'm right. To be honest I used to like metal but I was a teenager then. When you look at it from a older perspective you know it's just really forced. I don't see or hear anything menancing, just pure redneck noise and if I wanted to hear noise I'd put on Merzbow. I heard openings from shit anime shows that "rock harder" than most metal bands using just electronic equipment.

Just continue to use your illusions mulletheads © Funeral

Bye

LOL. They took a shit song from a shit band and made the shit song even shittier.

Pantera sucks. Groove metal sucks. It's watered down children's music. End of.

Better to be a hooray for tolerance!y bitter old man with taste (that wasn't shoved down my throat by MTV or Metal Edge) than snot nosed emo, oops I mean angsty teenager whose music only goes crunch crunch solo crunch crunch. Metal is a crack whore and you are all happy Johns.

This is why your idol, Axl, isn't going to come back. He said why way back in 1992. Have a listen and let it sink in.

Oh yeah, all rednecks should commit seppuku

COC were OK, not really a fan. They were a better as a hardcore punk band before they started playing that retarded "groove metal" bullshit.

You are a fucking idiot.

Right back at ya you fucktarded redneck. Groove metal has about as much groove as goosestepping does (judging by your sig, you must do that quite often, I mean you are a Pantera fan afterall) and as much talent as someone who uses nothing but a Big Muff pedal with an out of tune guitar.

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You assume a chick who smokes dope is toothless more dumb assumptions.

I don't see how bands like Pantera, Black Label Society, Nirvana, The VU, Lou Reed, David Bowie, and Jimi Hendrix and so on are shit?

Actually we blast Hendrix while I give her a lasy susan.

Good job numbnuts, DC isn't a state. So you got a chick who smokes dope and also likes to fuck to hard rock and metal. I bet that pussy looks like Mike Tyson's speedbag. My soundtrack would be hearing my old lady moan, pant and scream. No music is needed.

And back to dumb assumptions, you listed bands I didn't even mention or even think about. After a search to see who Black Label Society was, I found out that it's Zakk Wylde's band. He's another one tone guitar hackjob like Dimebag. The rest you listed are ace in my book because they didn't let themselves be pigeonedhold.

A subtle influence is one thing but to take another bands sound and synthesize it for general consumption because you want to get on the radio is another. I hate "groove metal" anyways.

Anthrax might be better than Metallica but look who you're saying they are better than. Anthrax is another example of a band who didn't really let themselves be pigeonhold into a "genre" and I'm not even a big fan of theirs.

what do you mean pigenhold?

Being set into a specific genre and not allowing yourself to grow or do something different artistically.

Sorry the moodiest fucking state in Union.

You assume a chick who smokes dope is toothless more dumb assumptions.

I don't see how bands like Pantera, Black Label Society, Nirvana, The VU, Lou Reed, David Bowie, and Jimi Hendrix and so on are shit?

Actually we blast Hendrix while I give her a lasy susan.

Good job numbnuts, DC isn't a state. So you got a chick who smokes dope and also likes to fuck to hard rock and metal. I bet that pussy looks like Mike Tyson's speedbag. My soundtrack would be hearing my old lady moan, pant and scream. No music is needed.

And back to dumb assumptions, you listed bands I didn't even mention or even think about. After a search to see who Black Label Society was, I found out that it's Zakk Wylde's band. He's another one tone guitar hackjob like Dimebag. The rest you listed are ace in my book because they didn't let themselves be pigeonedhold.

A subtle influence is one thing but to take another bands sound and synthesize it for general consumption because you want to get on the radio is another. I hate "groove metal" anyways.

Anthrax might be better than Metallica but look who you're saying they are better than. Anthrax is another example of a band who didn't really let themselves be pigeonhold into a "genre" and I'm not even a big fan of theirs.

So base the entire fan base off of Rednecks in your area?

Why do I have a feeling you live in the whitest fucking state?

Good job numb nuts. I've nailed dope fiend chick's who listen to Pantera and they sure aren't fucking rednecks.

Good job numbnuts, I live in DC, hardly the "whitest fucking state" and I could give two shits about the toothless whore you've "nailed" who listens to shit bands. Do you pour Pabst Blue Ribbon on the arch of her back while you're hittin' it doggystyle?

COC were OK, not really a fan. They were a better as a hardcore punk band before they started playing that retarded "groove metal" bullshit.

They were a shit band who ripped off another shit band. Only fucktards and rednecks like Pantera

i'm just wondering what shit band they supposedly ripped off?

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And the "newbie" insult is passe. I knew of alot of idiots who used to blast Cowboys (when it was new) in my high school parking lot. And 10 times out of ten, they were a bunch of fucktards or rednecks. You can say Dimebag was agood guitar player. You can say he had a signature sound. I see it as redundant riffage. One tone, over and over and over again. Like pretty much every metal band I've had the unfortunate privaledge of listening to, they all recycled the same riffs and lyrics over and over and over again. And even when they tried something different, or dare I say, use sampling or electronic sounds, they'd get a new asshole tore into by their "fans" because they're still used to the mindset of " *grunt* you, guitar, you bass, you drums, me singer, grunt*"

And Metallica can suck at fat one for all I care. They are another shit band and always have been. The reason they don't do speed metal anymore is because they're too old and rickety to do it. Plus it's more safer and profitable to go the route of bland heavy rock

And dopesmoker is just some name I came up with. Doesn't mean shit.

The name fits the song

They were a shit band who ripped off another shit band. Only fucktards and rednecks like Pantera