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What's Madison been up to now?

Quote from: zombux on April 25, 2010, 03:21:23 PM

but YOU made me hate reading this board since you started posting here... because you're the master of writing much, but saying nothing but crap.

And why is that,my friend?

Do you have trouble reading posts that offer views that differ from yours?

Or do you actually see truth in my posts and don't want to admit that you agree?

Or is it something juvenile - such as you naively believing that since Axl made a rant against me, then that must mean he's mad at me - and so you assume (without knowing the full story and details that led to the rant) that if Axl got mad at me, then you should too.

Either way, nobody is putting a gun to your head forcing you to read my posts.

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I come from CD.com can you take Madison back? She is giving us a headache...

Axl Rose makes it to the Rock 'n' roll hall of shame! I mean, come on! how can you call yourself a fan when you are posting something that doesn't makes sense at all? it's straight up bullshit.

I'm not talking about the content of your post but you were abusive when there was no real need to be. Anyway, secret show tonight so I would rather focus on that than the whole Madison.

Rose Bar tonight... not so secret.

Keep posting like that and your sig will become a reality but I suppose your hardcore enough not to care right?

there is nothing wrong in telling the truth. it's just that there are too many boneheads in here.

Everybody has the right to express their views - or at least they used to have the right to do that. If you don't want to read others' views, read another thread. But censoring them from expressing a view on a topic is wrong.

Then why is the Axl post censored?

Axl doesnt control the forum.

Eric revoked her admin status before the Axl rant.

Use your head.

Axl - - - - - - > Knew < - - - - - - about her not being a mod anymore when he began writing his geeky flame post. He knew about it before Madison did.

Think many rock stars keep up to date over stuff like moderator changes of fan forums?

This really should be too obvious for any need of spelling things out to exist.

Axl got pissed off with Madison. Axl wanted to get rid of her, fire her. Axl or the lady who bosses the lady washing Axl's underwear around contacted Eric. Eric got asked to bend over. Eric bend over. The end.

History has shown us this is what Axl does to people who do not kiss his ass convincingly enough to make Axl thnk they believe..

A ) ..that Axl is always right. About everything.

B ) ..that media, ex-members, Dr pepper and god knows what are conspiring together to make Axl miserable.

C )..that those white biker shorts were perfectly cool thing to wear on stage.

Sadly fact Madison did not work for Axl in any way doesn't seem to bother Axl.Or prevent him from " firing her"

That is what pisses me off most about this. Well, only thing that pisses me off about this really.

Control freak much?When official powers that be start invading unofficial fan sites with requests like this, it - should - set all kinds of alarm bells ringing.

But noo, let's just bend over. Rock n' roll!

you are a fucking cunt. know-it-all fruit cake, get a life and fuck off. Posts like this prove that this isn't a gnr fan forum.

oh, come on! Madison is still bitching around?! i thought she got banned.

Axl saved the jobs of seven people and the retards in here still think Madison is being thruthful?

read it head to toe and then talk

To all concerned, I was employed at the Winnipeg concert of Guns N Roses, relating to security which I have been doing for 14 years now. This will be my only post, which is a long one but every aspect of this issue will be addressed properly.

There has been a row going on behind closed doors about faulty and misleading statements done by ‘Madison’ from mygnrforum which threatened the jobs of at least 7 people. I wanted to correct them because it has been decided by the bosses that officially they won’t make a statement about it, and no employee is allowed to make a public statement either, ‘it would drag it more and in the end have more negative results for us, even by telling the truth’.

But I will not let this go, there is foul play involved and it damaged some of my colleagues professionally. Hard working people who built up a career out of nothing, just to be damaged by lies. And this ‘Madison’ person needs to be called out for what she is, a fraud with her own agenda.

I am posting this simultaneously on the most popular Guns N Roses forums I could find.

In short; all was said to her was that we (the ones overseeing the concert) didn’t want troublemakers at the show who only were there to get Mr. Axl Rose angry with Slash top hats or reunion signs.

And we decided to bar top hats because word was out, that there was a group of people, fans of Mr. Slash to be exact, actively planning to sabotage the show with pro-Slash and anti-Axl expressions. We could not allow this to happen, thinking about the band on stage, our own reputation, and last but not least the audience who would be disadvantaged if their plan worked, so we took the necessary actions.

It was never suggested to her that Guns N Roses or anyone related to them ordered us to do this specifically. They did not ask this in any way shape or form. ‘Madison’ lies about this.

On top of this, the one she alleges to have ‘talked’ to is not in the function she describes. Flat out lie.

We were told by Guns N Roses we had to make sure there would be no troublemakers, like any other band asks from us too. Mr. Slash was never mentioned in any way, directly or indirectly, in any communication with Guns N Roses or anyone related to them, period. And the way we see it (after including the things we knew about that group of people who wanted to sabotage the show), someone trying to get in with a trademark Slash top hat is a troublemaker. They were denied entry. This was our call, nobody else’s.

‘Madison’ twisted those words to make it look like whatever she felt would make Guns N Roses and us look bad.

We never told anyone to not wear a T-shirt with Mr. Slash on it. We let those kids just go straight in. Many people can vouch for this including the countless ones who were wearing them during the show. The turning of T-shirts inside out is not true either, seriously, that is laughable. If we do not agree with a T-shirt, that person just does not enter with it; turning T-shirts inside out would solve nothing because when inside they would turn the T-shirt back properly.

The only incident concerning this T-shirt issue involved 11 people (who happened to know each other ‘coincidentally’, we found out pretty fast) who had made their own T-shirts and wrote offensive text on it just to get a reaction from Mr. Axl Rose. One T-shirt I saw showed Mr. Slash holding up 2 middle fingers accompanied with the text ‘Just Shut Up And Sing’. Another showed the old line-up Guns N Roses marching over the new line-up Guns N Roses accompanied with the text ‘Better’.

The other 9 had similar T-shirts according to my colleagues. Only these 11 trouble makers, who were part of that group mentioned earlier, were excluded concerning this T-shirt topic. All the others with Mr. Slash on their clothing enjoyed the show without any restrictions. Anyone who says the contrary is lying and part of the group that was out to sabotage the show or people who just want to think bad about Guns N Roses and accept even lies to justify this.

Again, all this was our own call, never did Guns N Roses or anyone related to them ask us to bar anything relating to Mr. Slash, in any way, not even suggestions were made. And as mentioned, we did not bar clothing with Mr. Slash, we barred only clothing which accompanied offensive text to get a reaction from Mr. Axl Rose and texts calling for a reunion which naturally had Mr. Slash featuring on them.

If we had let these troublemakers enter, there was a risk of the show being stopped many times after provocations, or maybe even ending prematurely. So again, the accusations by ‘Madison’ of what was done by us, the reasoning behind our actions, and what Guns N Roses or anyone related to them said to us, are false.

A handful of guys with (semi-)professional audio/video recording devices were also barred from entering, same with a few with suspicious tickets and some who had drugs with them or looked like they had taken drugs.

No one else.

So ‘Madison’ claiming the opposite and trying to get our colleagues fired by spreading lies about this is just not right.

And why would she do this?

The impression we got of her, then and looking at what she did with this information is that she is busy trying to find things to make Guns N Roses look bad. During her ‘chat’ she was only interested in trying to uncover bad things about Guns N Roses. It became also very clear she is a fanatical fan of Mr. Slash. The math is very easy to do.

Only a person like that would twist our words and make it look like we said that Guns N Roses told us to harass anyone that was a fan of Mr. Slash. It’s just pathetic. It’s wrong. We would not even accept a request like that from anyone.

And to add, TMZ never asked us anything about this. They got this from ‘Madison’, directly or indirectly. There is no other source because no one asked us before ‘Madison’ and right after ‘Madison’ posted this false information we were not allowed to talk to anyone about this until it was figured out who said what. Before her post no one else asked about it, so she is the only source, again directly or indirectly. And other magazines, newspapers, etc., started copying from TMZ and then from each other without checking anything with us in any way.

‘Madison’ caused a lot of harm and pain in this affair by spreading lies.

I cannot do this with my name publicly or I will definitely get fired (and thanks to the help of a friend I am now even using software to hide my IP address which could identify me). And like mentioned before, officially there will be no statement stating this because more attention is bad attention and it will badly affect other shows we are organizing. I chose to do it in this way to clear it up so our voices would get heard, the truth would get heard and at least Guns N Roses fans now know what is going on.

I hope some sincere forum members copy it and paste it here and other forums, so the truth is known to the Guns N Roses fans. Namely, ‘Madison’ is twisting words heavily, posting lies to further her agenda of making Guns N Roses look bad (while pretending to like this line-up) because her idol Mr. Slash isn’t part of the band anymore. That’s the impression we got from her and this is exactly why she twisted the words in that manner.

And in the process she does not care if she’s endangering the jobs of others who worked hard to get where they are, like my colleagues.

Thanks.

already read like three articles like that one where I'm the bad guy =/

I guess it's hell of a lot less of explanations and therefor more comfortable to write about when I am the same as Madison and that I was claiming the exact opposite of what I was actually claiming... three minutes of fame and I'm already trashed to pieces.. wonder how Axl feels

Wonder how Axl feels? wasn't your mention enough? wanna get a personalized rant? then stop beign sarcastic.

Never heard of him.

Imagine you post on the Britney Spears fan forum.

Now imagine the son of Britney's maid posting on the forum and everyone gushing over him because of his association to Britney. Nevermind that he never posts anything notable and is generally annoying.

That's Fernando.

Might as well start here... You're a little cunt and since you've been posting you've pretty much always been a little cunt. Blind accusations and insults by an anonymous coward and whiny shit stirrer aren't impressive or needed by anyone. Everyone else...talk with your administrator. Who wants to chat?!!

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Pot meet kettle.

No, not really.

Then again I'm not the one who needs a house keeper to wipe my ass.

Yeah, I'm a miserable cunt who's not a fan of the band and Axl doesn't need fans like me.

Reality check here.

The only one's who's a apparently a miserable cunt is somebody who alienates and hides himself from the world and blames fans who pays his bills so he eat his duck roast dinner's.

Axl instead of coming here and calling me a cunt get off your ass and stick your head out of the fucking window. "All I've got in the press is shit after shit" which is exactly what we have gotten. Instead of being so butt sore over what some dude on the Internet says do what you do best put on a helluva of a show and make good music.

I never said you worked for me..

Is it that hard to talk to your fan base? Fuck you're apparently doing it now.

I don't know what Beta and Del have told you but us the fans have put up with your shit were the reason CD sold as much as it did along with every Gn"R record.

After all the years of telling people to suck your dick you'd think you'd grow a fucking pair to actually speak or say something after the release other than hiding in the batcave under your desk while WASP plays with strippers going up and down.

Blame the fans or anybody else seems to be the GN'R moto.

It's a fantasy that fans who purchased GN'R's material is misguide?

Did you hijack Mr. Peabody and get Del to buy 27 million copies of AFD.

The Beta chicken dinner stuff is a joke.

Can't believe Axl had to stand all that shit just to please us, the "fans"(And that's just half of it). I hope that the so called "Spuffy" got banned. And people still ask them self's why Axl is not around here anymore or even on T.V anymore? With time my respect for Axl has grown big time.

like having sex

any footage from this concert other than the ones on youtube? Pm pls

Every story has 3 sides: yours, mine and the truth.

Axl's arguments and side of the story is as valid as Slash's, Duff's or Izzy's. The thing is, all Slash, Duff and Izzy point their finger at Axl.

Btw, it's great to have Axl here "talking" with us but... don't you think he had this answer all written up when he did the post asking for your questions regarding the GN'R name? Do you honestly believe he read your questions and then wrote all that?

Well, to me, this Axl reply was already writen and approved by his lawers long ago... don't let yourself be manipulated, allways look above what people are telling you.

Why wait 12 years to say all these things? And why now that CD seems to be failling the sales expectation, although it's a good album? Is this some kind of a revegenge?

I'm not an Axl hater, I just don't buy all this crap. If he intended to have a contract with the rights of the name back in the early 90s was because he was already a control freak and with pappers signed he could force everybody else to do as he pleased, that's the truth if you ask me.

He already said there was a "better" video and a big promotion coming up in a week or so. I doubt this being a attention stunt.

I don't see why is disappointing... everyone has situations and after all the five of them are human beings you know?(or aliens)

and then you wonder why we never thought Axl would ever do something like he is doing now. be grateful not hateful.

join me axl

and who the fuck are you to talk 'bout something you didn't live?

we lost him again he's for sure at cd.com

No offense, but Axl sounds bitter as fuck. Especially about Slash. We're supposed to believe that everything that has happened is someone else's fault and EVERYTHING we've been told about him are all lies.

I think the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

People love sayin' that middle trip. Easy to say but not so easy to prove.

Unfortunately it's not in the middle and I can back up every last line in my bit or I wouldn't be here.

You love his work and whatever else. More power to you!

And no, I'm not bitter at least in the sense of how you used it conveys. Felt good gettin' some of that off my chest and as I said that's just the tip.

If that's your honest impression it's definitely not rose colored lenses you're wearing. And I looked up the definition of bitter once in a pocket dictionary and got "having anger at something unjust or evil". I'm not angry but when I am with this particular someone who I thought was once my friend... the definition fits.

and that's the reason why you are my idol and never let me down. I don't care if you guys don't get along anymore or have some issues or whatsoever. I will always admire you (both) for what you have done musically and professionally. The personal things you might have are non of my business and I have no right to talk 'bout them. I won't say I don't care what you do or how you act 'cause I do. ...When you came to my country (on tour) you gave us bottles of water (for free) that was reserved for the band that really meant a lot to me. But that's how you change the world right? one Act of Random Kindness at a time... I hope you get what I'm saying.

ban the asshole who quoted the whole post.

dammit Axl! that's a lot to read!! when will I get to ask you a couple of questions? Thanks for your time man! I really appreciate what you are doing.