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Review from "NewGNRnOldGNR":

The media, may I query you as to what it is? Or should I say what it was? To me the media in its traditional form is the unbound truth telling to the masses. Clearly those “reporting” in the near past in relation to the (Guns N' Roses) Reading and Leeds performances were not media representatives of any kind. They were snarling wolves, eager to chomp away at the pride of a living legend. Let me take the honourable duty of depicting the current incarnation of Guns N' Roses in its true form. I had the privilege of attending a Guns N' Roses concert tonight at the Odyssey Arena in Belfast. Within the dome shaped building Northern Irish fans waited eagerly to see Guns N' Roses's triumphant début in Northern Ireland. There were inklings of “If only I'd been alive to see GN'R in the late 1980s, I'm only attending this gig to say I saw Guns N' Roses live”. Hold that thought for a second, imagine “indie” dressed teenagers chuckling about the “Axl Rose Experiment”, rolling around their seats in hysterics about the media branded “dismal” “Chinese Democracy”. Despite the fact like many others they never gave the latter a chance. I clutched my fist tightly hoping Guns N' Roses would lead revenge against their antics.

As the last drop of my drink touched the tip of my tongue the Odyssey's magnificent lighting dimmed. An aura rose up around the Arena as the audience gasped in delight at the sight of activity. Thoughts tinkered in the air as DJ Ashba toyed with the idea of springing the concert to life. The lighting of the “Chinese Democracy” theme bordered the stage and DJ Ashba duly roared into the opening track. There, unassumingly emerging from the side of the stage, was a man who captivated the crowd with his mere presence. Roars rung aloud as Axl Rose, a “monster” according to the highest of tabloids, greeted the crowd with a grin. Axl boomed deeply “It don't really matter” as the engaged audience absorbed his every lyric. DJ Ashba, who's been a centre point of criticism for many pro-reunionists, tended to the front row ticket payers with limited edition guitar picks whilst still maintaining a high level performance of the song “Chinese Democracy”. Ron “Bumblefoot” Thal whom some would describe as the “nicest guy in the music industry” smiled amiably to the adoring crowd. Richard Fortus, possibly the modern day “Mr. Cool”, strummed his rhythm guitar basically, yet almost hypnotically. Tommy Stinson, arguably the backbone of Guns N' Roses, played his bass guitar with an almost wisdom induced vibe.

Familiarity scattered the Odyssey Arena next as once again DJ Ashba teasingly invited the “Jungle” to Belfast. Whilst he intentionally stuttered on the opening notes of “Jungle”, the crowd metaphorically prized the rest of the introduction from the grasp of Ashba as forty year old bandanna wearing men relived their youth. The entire Arena jumped into action as Axl Rose hissed perfectly “Do you where you are?” It goes without saying the entire Odyssey Arena arose from their resting points and expressed their delight in every means possible as the most iconic song in hard rock history ran wild. Guitarists ran back in forth across the stage so as to not be struck down by the deadliness of their own playing. Other Guns N' Roses classics such as “It's So Easy” and the hatefully catchy “Mr. Brownstone” glittered Belfast's main entertainment establishment respectively. The crowd were especially pleased when Axl roared “Fuck off” assisted with a hand gesture during “Easy”. The mentioned testosterone ridden classics from “Appetite” were followed by a subtle and emotionally complicated song. Neatly entitled “Sorry”. The sheer raw emotion of Axl's vocals and the utter spirituality of Ron Thal's guitar playing made this song a treat. The pure power of “Sorry” will have Odyssey Arena attenders clutching for some means of reliving such an enthralling piece.

The band then proceeded some time after to pamper the crowd with a love story, in the form of Axl's own personal masterpiece, “This I Love”. The song provoked thoughts of empathy, thoughts of compassion, thoughts of understanding. “This I Love” live to say the least was an experience, Rose yet again rising to every level of expectation brought forth by the song. “Street Of Dreams”, formerly “The Blues”, was the next chapter of Guns N' Roses' Belfast tale. The introduction of “Street Of Dreams” was met by youthful choruses of “I love this song”, and needless to say they did. It was a refreshing occurrence to see the adults of tomorrow embrace a “Chinese Democracy” gem as such. The band delivered on every aspect of the track. The “Illusion” classic “You Could Be Mine”, minus the Arnold cameo, then acted as a pacifier to the indulging crowd. As well as Stinson's awe inspiring bass introduction, the typifying element of the 1991 track was Axl's piercing scream at the climax. The “new addition” yet utterly at home DJ Ashba then played his solo piece.

Well informed fans following Guns N' Roses' intentions of world domination were able to excite other ticket payers by saying almost magically, “Sweet Child is next”. Mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, daughters, sons and so on screamed in pure delight as Mr. Ashba invited the fans to once again prize his piece. The terrific introduction to “Sweet Child” was met with rapturous applause as the crowd sang, meaning every word they uttered. An old lady well into her sixties had her legs rejuvenated by the classic and henceforth was initiated into the rock n' roll realm. Axl Rose chanted “Where do we go now?” over and over again as the crowd cried every lyric to the extent that it quite literally trembled the earth the Arena found itself on. The prolonged phrasing of “Sweet Child O' Mine” at the end of “Sweet Child” was again performed to maximum standard by lead singer Axl Rose. Classically trained pianist Axl took to the grand piano. Surely the man couldn't maintain such control over the crowd's wonders as he played a few keys? You'd be wrong to think otherwise. The audience held onto Axl's every note as he delightfully transcended into “November Rain”. The classy introduction of “November Rain” had the crowd finding themselves clapping. The song engulfed thoughts of nostalgia, quietly around the Odyssey thirty year old women considered the time they floundered themselves around their bedroom to the rhythm of “November Rain”. “November Rain” was tasteful and concise, an all round brilliantly performed piece.

Many considered the notion of “Chinese Democracy” not floating with the Belfast crowd, but those “many” couldn't have been farther from the truth. “Better”, the industrial inspired track, was received with a sense of familiarity, it further proved the point that “Chinese Democracy” is indeed a cherished item in certain quarters. It defaced “old Guns N' Roses” t-shirts in the crowd with its quality. Laughs were spewed as the “Pink Panther”was spouted as being the centre theme of “Bumblefoot's” solo piece. Ron Thal then proceeded to transform the childish images portrayed by some into ones of pure hard rock. The snippet of “Estranged” incorporated into his solo enchanted the most hearing of ears. The Bob Dylan classic “Knockin' On Heaven's Door” marked a pivotal point in the performance, the co-operation shown by ticket payers during Axl's “Can you help me out here?” bit of the composition was remarkable. It acted as a true symbol of the adoration gently plucked from the fans' hearts by Guns N' Roses. The stage presence then bombed from quaint to rabid as Guns N' Roses rain straight into “Nightrain”. It was a blistering piece filled with balls and attitude. It was late in the set list when an attention seeking ticket payer felt it his role to lob a bag at Axl Rose. Did “crazy” Axl throw a tantrum and attack the fan? Did the “sissy” Axl represented by the media walk off and not return to the stage? No. Axl caught the bag, put it on his back for a brief time, and then set it aside. May I ask why such a happening will not be covered by our “media”? I'm sure you've reached your conclusion.

Following “Nightrain” Axl appeared to indicate that was it. Show over. As time elapsed small clusters of people positioned themselves to leave, when, out of the blue, in an almost lone ranger like manner, Ron “Bumblefoot” Thal fulfilled the wishes of us all with the opening riff of his “Don't Cry” solo, indicating all was not what it had first appeared. Encouraged by Ron and their own Guns N' Roses lyric operator, the crowd soulfully sang along to Thal's almost ritualistic “Don't Cry” solo. Was this Ron's departing gift we asked ourselves. Our self-directed questions were met with the synthesized beginning of “Madagascar”. One gets the impression “Madagascar” is the song Axl Rose manifests himself into. His deliverance of the track is simply breath taking. Martin Luther King's words during “Madagascar” were met with DJ Ashba encouraging clapping, and our neck hairs standing up in respect. Cravings for “Paradise City” glistened the Odyssey Arena in Belfast as fans sought the perfect ending to a perfect concert. Richard Fortus and “Bumblefoot” teased the gathering with scrapings of a golden track. Then, the familiar foot stamping beat of “Paradise City” rang aloud and something heavenly began. Every voice was united in effort, and the result was spectacular.

Confetti decorated the Odyssey Arena as people bathed in the phenomenon that is Guns N' Roses live. “That was the greatest performance ever” said The Smiths listening “indie” kid in the back row. Needless to say they'll be swapping their designer scarves for their newly bought “Chinese Democracy” t-shirt tomorrow morning.

please post to youtube somebody .... anybody please !!!!!!!!!!! ahhhhh

"NewGNRnOldGNR" put up a pretty mediocre recording which gives us a taster of what's to come in a sense: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHIs2AuGjGE

It's certainly not a reversed already existing track because I ran it in a few ""Audio Edit" programs and didn't reach that conclusion.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/music/guns-n-roses-to-play-gig-at-sydney-500-v8-supercars-street-race/story-e6frexl9-1225891343165

LEGENDARY rockers Guns N' Roses have agreed to make just their second trip to Australia since 1993 - to appear at this year's Sydney 500 V8 Supercars street race.

Frontman Axl Rose last night confirmed the band will perform a one-off gig on Saturday, December 4, at ANZ Stadium, following the weekend's first event around the Olympic Park circuit.

"To mix Guns with this massive Sydney event will be a blast," Rose said.

"We will be in Europe just before we head to Sydney so it will be great to come out and chill around Australia for a while, spend a bit of time getting around and soaking up the relaxed Aussie vibe.

"When we came back in 2007 it had been about 14 years between tours in Australia and we had a complete ball.

"Bring on Sydney and the V8 Supercars. Hopefully I can get a ride in one of those big beasts while I'm there."

Famous for hit 1990s singles Sweet Child Of Mine, November Rain and You Could Be Mine, the US bad boys are expected to lift this year's total gate well above the 184,000 that attended the first-up event last December.

Acting Premier John Hatzistergos is scheduled to make an official announcement today and is confident interstate fans will flock to Sydney for the band's only East Coast performance.

It's believed V8 Supercars officials are paying Guns N' Roses more than $1 million to perform the solitary gig, included in the $91 price of Saturday's admission.

Here are a two little promotional videos from that era, they're pretty cool:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ChineseHypocracy#p/u/21/Ab_8dIO4vD8

http://www.youtube.com/user/ChineseHypocracy#p/u/22/YjcEcjhAMbo

Any Belfast concert-goers tickets arrived yet? Mine haven't (seated) and I got them 9AM on release day

It states that tickets are sent two days before the event.

Just thought it was odd that you wrote responses to a person who will never see them.

I wasn't responding to the chosen statements, I was simply highlighting the inaccuracy of them.

You do know Mick isn't here and can't see that.....right?

I wasn't specifying the response to any particular person, but thank-you for your concern. I'm glad however that you've furthered my point that anti-Axl/progression forumers are incapable of providing constructive and contrasting arguements. You do know that your constant trolling is very apparent?

No. Axl is a little guy with the stick thin arms.

His arms didn't look too stick like when he smashed that photograper up with one blistering punch, obviously Mick Wall didn't watch that video.

But Axl always pulled away.

Is that why he went searching for that photograper harassing Beta? Is that why he bit a security guard back in 2006? Is that why he went looking for Kurt Cobain to specifically fight him?

He has no friends other than his half brother.

Is that why DJ Ashba is on paper for calling Axl a best friend of his? Is that why he struck an instant friendship with Scarlett Johansson? Is that why he's been spotted going into New York cinemas with notable music and film industry figures?

When he's not touring, he is in his house, watching television or surfing around online and see if anyone has written anything about him.

I used to go on the Internet, Axl is quoted at having said in 2002, we're now in 2010. If Axl really was on the Internet persistently, he wouldn't have had to be told about the speculation Madison was creating right here. What's wrong with staying in and watching television? I personally prefer the comfort of my own home as well. He has the luxury within the confinements of his home, why go elsewhere for less?

The former Guns members would love to be reunited and touring with him, but they do not want to pay 200 $ 000 next time he starts a riot somewhere because he did not turn up.

Should Axl give up all his aspirations with the current incarnation to facilitate the wishes of somewhat has beens? I do believe Axl has a perfect attendance record to date on this tour, so there is yet another false notion developed by Mick Wall.

I predict a sad end to this saga.

What's with all the doom and gloom? The band are ripping it up on tour at present, and the general media conception of Axl is very positive. My regard for the predictions of Mick Wall could not be any less, this phrase is merely the departing note of a very bitter man.

"He is dead".

This is an extremely scandalous statement. Sorry Mick, but it's the eighties that are dead, Axl's just adapted to the times, you sadly haven't. Who is Mick Wall to the modern day music scene anyway? He would be of more use as Grant Mitchell double in Eastenders.

Ever notice how poster's who love CD, are so quick to call those who do not, names.They never present any arguement to your post. It's always the same shit.

"You crazy there won't be a reunion"

"Buckethead > Slash"

"CD > Appetite"

"LOL Slash"

"$lash"

"Wrong section"

"Welcome back BBA"

"You must not be a fan of this band, since you don't like 1 out the 6 they have released."

"You're a cancer"

etc. etc. etc.

Ever notice how forumers who hate Chinese Democracy are so so rapid to call those who do? They never present any constructive argument to yours or three quarters of the topic's contributors. It's always the same drivel:

There'd be a reunion if it wasn't for that devil Axl.

Slash is superior to Buckethead, Robin Finck, Ron Bumblefoot Thal and DJ Ashba.

You should be banned if you think Chinese Democracy is better than Appetite.

Axl's old, Axl's fat, Axl's bald, Axl can't sing.

You must not be aware of the greatness and Godly nature of the old band if you think Chinese Democracy is good.

Axl fanboy.

What's the difference? That's all the anti-norm contributors in a nutshell, the difference being the pro-Guns N' Roses contributors (such as myself) post in the section set out for us, whereas you the anti-norm, (mainly because it make you feel good about yourself) pollute other sections, with your utter nonsense.

Just a question, if Im ordering on the odessey website, what's the max i can order at one time

And do they hold the tickets, then you enter your credit card details after, or what way does that work?

I believe you can order a maximum of eight tickets.

They hold the tickets for several minutes while you enter your details and what not.

No doubt, but all standing tickets are the same anyway.

Are you going for seated or standing, and for what reason/reasons?

I'm going to both Pre-sale makes little difference to me to be perfectly honest... I'll be up before 9am on Friday anyway.

Well there's always that too. I'll be up as well, but with the numbers that will be on to obtain the best tickets, freezing and similar annoyances will be inevitable. There's no question about it, a pre-sale is handy.

My message won't even send. I'm on O2-UK because I live in Northern Ireland. Is 51020 definately the right number, and I text "Roses"?

Simple solution to that is go to the Belfast performance with myself and others.

Ya for the Dublin 02 show. Don't think Belfast is having a pre-sale, don't quote me on that though.

I just phoned the "Odyssey Arena Box Office", they aren't aware of any pre-sale, so you're assumption is correct.

How do I get pre-sale?

Just text "Roses" to 51020, then "O2" will send you your own unique code to get priority tickets.

Got my code, tickets tomorrow not Friday!!!

I'm presuming for the Dublin performance? I haven't heard any mention of a Belfast pre-sale.

Necessary? Necessary? Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine? No, but it's sterile, and I like the taste.

Oh - I'm sure he "doesn't miss the lifestyle". I mean, what would there be to miss about being in the biggest rock band in the world, having shit tons of money, chicks, and drugs at your disposal. I'm sure playing half filled arenas with a tribute band is equally as rewarding. Wasn't this jackass homeless sometime in 08/09?

Get over yourself, Dizzy. You are obviously a desperate pawn who now resorts to massive ass-kissing because you know damn well Axl could replace you with just about anyone with a pulse. The fact that this guy tries to sell us that "things are better now" is beyond laughable. Oh, and no offense to Dizzy, but somehow I doubt that one of the most legendary guitarists of our time cares about what some nobody keyboardist thinks about him.

Did Dizzy play on Appetite For Destruction? Ya know, the album that made GNR famous. No - I don't think he did. If I was him, I'd just keep my mouth shut about what is or what's not better. Enjoy your half filled arenas, zero commercial appeal, and flying coach while your "boss" takes the corporate jet, you stooge.

I don't want to appear overly clichéd in this instance, but you can have all the money, success, women etc. etc. and still lack substance, integrity as well as meaning. Isn't it great taking all the drugs there is and having intercourse with every sexually transmitted disease ridden tramp but then in later years be incapable of stringing a sentence together and touch your own nether region? There's nothing “glamorous” about not being able to take a piss comfortably in the morning. Oh and there's nothing old school or glamorous about playing sold-out venues week in week out, it's means your commercialized and conformed, the very reason why Izzy Stradlin packed it in.

I think you'll find Dizzy Reed is of value to Guns N' Roses, at least with Dizzy you can relate to the “old” band to a certain extent. Almost every report mentions Axl the sole “original” member, having Dizzy there again creates a sense of familiarity. Dizzy contributed to four great tracks on “Chinese Democracy” the album, “Better”, “Street Of Dreams”, “There Was A Time” and “Catcher In The Rye”. Who doesn't ensure the happiness of a dominant member within a band? Are you trying to suggest members of Metallica don't pay homage to Lars Ulrich?

Well what did Slash Hudson do for “Appetite For Destruction”? I'll tell you what, the same guitar riff for every track on there, other guitarists laughed at him back then. “The album made Guns N' Roses famous”, yes, yes, yes, same old, you don't say Einstein? The album was full of drinking, drugs and women, of course it appealed to the U.S.A, the love, hurt and realism of “Chinese Democracy” wouldn't however. I accept your request to enjoy reality, I will say this however, let Slash Hudson sell-out to every capitalist industry there is, let Slash Hudson make records with zero meaning, let Slash Hudson constantly play the non-music channels like M.T.V and what not, let Slash be a commercial item used for his novelty and not his skill, let him!

Gotta love uneducated fans with no insider status.

I think you'll find I have a considerably good "education" behind me and presently before me. I laugh at this whole "insider" nonsense, it's frankly pathetic, big shots thinking they know everything when what they know is very insignificant. Oh how the band members and Guns N' Roses in general must laugh hysterically at some people.

Saying a new album is gonna be released this years is anyone's opnion. I choose to believe it, but you don't have to.

But what's the point? We have an element of reason to believe a "new" album is on the way at some point, but to say this year could be mere wishful thinking. At the end of the day you can say "I think the second installment of this incarnation of Guns N' Roses will occur this year", and I can say "I don't think the second installment of this incarnation of Guns N' Roses will occur this year". What legitimizes the former as being any more valid than the latter?

Well, until someone from the GN'R camp say's something, it's all up in the air.

Well "DJ" Ashba and Dizzy Reed have added fuel to the fire to an extent, but they were likely "high" more so than anything. I'll concede that we know more than we've known previously, but in terms of reality, we know very little. I'm just anticipating Axl blowing the claims collectively out of the water, until then we all must keep quite sceptical and realistic about the entire issue.

A lot of claims made in regards to an imminent "new" album are founded, but let's not jump to conclusions so rapidly. The tour is still ongoing, we have regular updates and contact with Guns N' Roses, so let's enjoy it. It's aways interesting to speculate, but at this point claims and rumours are being escalated into something they aren't, there is an element of reason to believe a "new" album is inevitable, but let's not try and substantiate with shady points to an extent that could turn this healthy discussion into another "Madison" saga. I wouldn't want Axl to rip any so called "insiders" into shreds, because he easily could and would.

There has been at least one track from "Guns N' Roses" (the album) handed into the "Rock Band" franchise for release with the next installment of their gaming series. The previous intention of a July release date and U.M.G's subsequent refusal is entirely right. The second installment of "new" Guns N' Roses is now expected to occur in November.