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Evolver1477

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  1. Im really looking forward to this album, but i found myself having apprehension at starting the video, maybe because heroin diaries was so good. But im glad i did, killer song, SIXX A.M are far better than Motley ever were in my opinion

    Ahh How could they even be close to what Motley was or is ,I know it's just your opinion but WOW!

  2. I think that the premise for this discussion is wrong, that's my personal opinion of course as is yours, but I thought I'd chip in. When discussions like these arise, the most common responses are either: 1) Axl should, must, has to.... or on the other side 2) Axl doesn't need to.. I think it's hard from a fan's perspective to know what to say in these discussions. On the one hand, we enjoy the music and the band and since we've made the following of the band and listening to the music a part of our everyday life, we've become addicted. It's like: can I have some more please, I need some more, I want some more, give me some more until you progress into trying to rationalize why you would be entitled to getting something you want...but I bought the record, but I went to the concert. Everyone, including myself, try to rationalize it through the paradigm that if I do something I should get something in return. While it's a great paradigm and I guess it works well, since capitalism definitely has prevailed around the world, it reaches its limitations when we start looking at the relationships between people rather than people vs. product. You, we, the fanbase etc. are all treating Gn'R like it's a product, we look at the individuals in the band and the music as products that we want and we apply that particular paradigm. But the thing is, nobody ever talks about what the other side might want...

    We feel like we're entitled to have demands since we've waited so long, we've spent money, time, and in the process become highly addicted to everything Gn'R. The truth is that, even though Gn'R is a brand, it consists of people, like me and you, with their personal reasons for being a part of Gn'R. Has anyone ever considered that maybe, just maybe, catering to anyone's demands and hopes and dreams is not something that Axl set out to do when he started the band? I'm pretty sure he was just looking for a way to channel his energy and creativity and make a living out of it. He has said it before, he writes songs that he wants to listen to, not what other people want to listen to. But then somebody might say, well, didn't he say that he wanted the band to get as big as possible and wouldn't that entail that notion of 'selling a product'? Well, not really. We all want to succeed at what we do. If you become a public figure, lets say an actor, you want to make great movies, but you also want to get remembered for something, become one of the greats (we all do, there's no denying that). And the only way to be remembered in the entertainment business is to get big, to do something different etc. And that's exactly what Axl set out to do. I don't think he really wanted all the responsibilities that the modern society sticks onto public figures. Can't actors, musicians just do their thing without becoming cult leaders?

    What I'm trying to say that liking something or someone is an option. You shouldn't make direct connections between liking a person and then assuming that if you like them, then they should automatically do whatever you want, just because you have opened yourself up to that person (in this case we are talking about a group of people - such as Gn'R). You should assume that in personal relationships, with your friends and familiy, but not with people you don't know and who are doing what they do for themselves and not for anybody else. Axl makes music, because he likes making music and he wants be known for making great music, we all want recognition, its built into our system, but does recognition mean that he should take orders from the same people? No...

    The logic or the paradigm is wrong. He'll go about doing his thing, something we cannot judge, because it's his livelihood, it's his life, and we should be living our own lives. Can you imagine a situation when you're a cashier for instance and then one day somebody just comes up to you and starts telling you how you should do your job better? Wouldn't that annoy you? Yes it would. And we should forget about the whole concept of celebrities being at a different level than ordinary people, because this is what ruins it for everyone. You start making different rules. You're a celebrity, you can't enjoy your job, you have to think about what I need and want... No he doesn't. It may sound selfish in the sense that the fans are what makes his job possible, but the fans should be there as observers of his career and not as direct participants in his career, if you know what I mean? Does that mean that he doesn't care about the fans at all? No it doesn't. If he didn't care at all, he'd do a shitty job. He'd try to get by easy, just make his money and that's it. But he always delivers an awesome show... That's his way of saying thanks for the support. That's his way of communication. It's different, but it's his to choose, because we go out there to see him. Expecting him to do more, give interviews, promotion, talkshows all that, just because that's the industry standard these days is foolish and selfish on our part. He is what he is, and we love him for what he is, why do we make such an effort trying to make him change, so he would better fit our daily schedules? So much pressure all the time on one single persion? Isn't that a bit too much?That's all I got to say about that.

    in a nut shell you probably can not even to pretend to know your closest friends true intentions for their personal life,why the fuck would you want to have Axl F'N Rose's a rock star persona's be of any importance.

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