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ummm....this incredibly reviewed show (many press reviews done for this show, some noting it as one of the best rock shows on the planet in 2012, or proclaiming GNR the best live, hard rock act in the world), must have just happened by luck, cause after reading this board, I thought after 2009/2010 Axl was just toast? Came across this performance, it must have just been altered by the bootlegger....man he did a ton of work to auto-tune this, or whatever one does to add that "rasp" and perfect pitch and phrasing??? How can Axl sound, like, better than he ever has in his life? And the band, they are pretty good too (Eugene Stinson and Fortus have a bit of soul don't they now)...

I should also add, Greatest Hits continues to hang in the charts, and has likely sold over 10 million copies worldwide by now.....so think about it. Do you really think Axl owes the record company? They are paying him still for sales of the catalog. I am pretty sure Appetite and GH's sell over 500K annually, and the other albums collectively sell a million + copies a year. GN'R sells well, just like other legitimate classic rock bands. Their catalog is one of the most coveted in the industry.

Guys, this topic and question are insane if you really think about it. If anything, one could ask "does Axl still owe the company for the Chinese Democracy sessions", but that is even stupid, as the Best Buy deal covered that. Moreover, think about this--every year GN'R sells a few million units worldwide of their back catalog. They are huge moneymakers for the label without any overhead at all. Of course Axl doesn't owe the record company a dime, and they likely cut him checks every month or quarter for sales of the catalog. Also, I believe they use Universal's new concert division now for tours, so they make the record company money that way as well. GnR are still a top 50 grossing concert act year in and year out. If they would book more dates, they could push the top 25. Don't for a second fool yourselves, GnR is one of the highest selling artists of all time, they don't owe Universal a dime.

Unbelievable--this has almost 400,000 views!! Great Performance:

Saw this interesting Fortus interview. Check it out:

http://www.glidemaga...lizzy-tats.html

Thank you so much for posting--Richard is an incredible talent, cool guy, and I really dig how he is tapping into the philosophical leanings of George Harrison. Brilliant stuff! This guy is so under-appreciated at times it makes me sick! One of the best guitarists on the planet, and I am really looking forward to his contributions on the next album. I love many of the guitar riffs and what not he has posted on his website, and his new solo that he broke out at Vegas is fantastic!

in addition to Kanye's Axl-like wardrobe, I just have to say--like they did at the 9/11 tribute--The Who flat out rocked! Incredible how well their songs come off live! Kanye is stinking it up, but Paul McCartney is about to play, so worth tuning in if you haven't yet.

http://www.business-...-makers/494149/

Music Makers

Axl Rose, the lead vocalist of Guns N’ Roses, is famously moody. The stellar performer, who recently declined his induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fameand insisted that no one could accept the award on his behalf, is prone to surly answers during interviews and walks off abruptly from concerts.

He also shares a contentious relationship with nearly all his former bandmates, especially former lead guitarist Slash. For good reason, G N’ R is christened “the most difficult band in the world”. So when the red-headed banshee, as he is often called, thunders on stage with his quixotic labour of love, Chinese Democracy, in the band’s maiden tour of India next week, diehard fans will wonder — will Rose throw another one of his legendary tantrums?

Rose’s reputation for being temperamental doesn’t bother the folks at Mooz Entertainment, the live entertainment company which is bringing the explosive American hard rock band to India. For the last few weeks, they have been exchanging three-hour long conversations and over 500 emails daily with G N’ R’s tour managers. As organisers, Mooz will do the entire bandobast — from accommodation to medical needs, security, local transport, production prerequisites and local transport. The number of retail outlets (over 80) for selling G N’ R concert tickets are the highest ever done for any concert in the country.

STARS OF THE SHOW

• Mooz Entertainment — Guns N’ Roses (December 7-12), American Nu metal band Koßn (November 2012)
  
• Only Much Louder —David Guetta (March 2012), metal band Megadeth (October 2012), Enrique Iglesias (October 2012)
  
• PERCEPT and SUBMERGE— Swedish House Mafia (November 2012)
  

At the venues in Gurgaon, Mumbai and Bangalore, the grounds are being levelled to avoid injuries to fans. Mooz’s responsibilities also include pandering to artistic whims — be it a specific brand of mineral water or a 24/7 personal chef — and catering to the entourage of agents, technicians, stylists and bodyguards, reportedly numbering around 50. Rose, who, rumour has it, doesn’t come on stage before 9.30 pm has assured Mooz that he will be there at 6.45 pm. This is in keeping with the Supreme Court’s ruling that all loudspeakers need to be put off at 10 pm. For crowd management, Mooz has roped in a security agency “which can tell the difference between a rally and a concert”.

This is the kind of BS, lazy journalism I hate. First of all, it is totally inaccurate. This band, since 2006, has been about the most consistent act on the planet. They have rarely cancelled shows (I think they have played about 200 shows since 2006), and apart from starting late (which is known by over half of those attending anyways), they always bring it and play a 2.5-3 hour show. Their last six or seven legs, besides the typical touring issues every band encounters, have gone off fairly uneventful for the most part. One good thing though, the unpredictable reputation Axl brings (which is reinforced by this type of article), adds to the excitement of the actual show. He is a true Rock Star in that he is one artist that is not a poseur by any means, and still is capable of bat shit craziness at anytime. There is nothing like the adrenaline rush one gets in the few minutes before GN'R takes the stage, when Axl has everyone on edge, even us diehards wondering even just a little, if he even is gonna show. What's funny is, I think we have found out recently, often times he is at the venue hours before the show and is just stirring it up a bit. But, back on topic, this article is lazy. If one really looks at the past 6 years, this band is straight up reliable and consistent--they show up 99% of the time, very rarely cancel a show, and rock your brains out. Jack White, Green Day, Metallica, and all kinds of artists have been far more unpredictable in reality than GN'R when it comes to shows recently. Many more on-stage incidents, and cancellations than this band. I can only think of 2 or 3 cancellations since 2006 (Portland Maine and Milwaukee)--is my memory correct? I don't count the few shows in Central America (where the band actually showed up ready to go), which didn't go off because of bullshit promoters dropping the ball on stage prep and security preparations, etc. This band is one of the most reliable acts in the world now, as ironic as that is, its the truth.

RASP

What kind of moron brings an iPad to film with....

CD, jungle, ISE

Must be done recording...my theory in 2002 was that he was saving his voice for recording....just kidding! He always gets the rasp (actually just better command of his voice) back about 10 shows in, other than 2009 when he came out blazing!

Well, I'm glad this was played last night...just flat out brilliant:

The Zepp is owned by Sony Entertainment Group, so who knows what the arrangements are. It seems Big Japanese bands play there, and then the most exclusive of world artists play there: Ringo Starr, The Who, Paul McCartney, David Gilmour, Peter Gabriel, etc. Typically it is just there only stop in Tokyo, so I would imagine tickets are sold to club members, Sony execs (possibly eying concert--the more profitable part of the biz now--or record deals with these artists), and the elites who can afford $500 tickets. Whoever said $300 tickets is on the money--my bet is they will be upwards of $500-$1000 in Tokyo, considering the exclusive venue. Each large city in Japan has a Zepp theater, and they are all exclusive, incredible venues. This is an honor for GnR to be invited to play there.

FYI, speaking of honor, I watched the David Geffen American Masters documentary on PBS last week, and they had a section regarding his brilliant record business, and how he built it from the ground up by finding the right talent on his own and backing the bands personally. He told the story, or Tom Zutat did, of how David Geffen personally called MTV to get Jungle played at 4 a.m., and MTV's call-in boards lit-up and jammed. I wonder what Axl's relationship with David Geffen is like now? He is the kind of cat who could give the band phenomenal wisdom in the lead-up to a new album. Also, while I believe he had nothing to do with the booking of this show, he is the kind of person who would be able to land the band a gig at a place like this. Very prestigious one-off show! Would be a great place to film--hopefully that is the plan!

PLEASE PLAY PERFECT CRIME--SOMEONE THERE SHOULD MAKE A SIGN WHEN IZZY IS ON STAGE! THAT WOULD BE INCREDIBLE!!!

My girl is all excited because GNR liked her photo on instagram... Anyone know who's running social media? Del or Fernando?

That is totally cool (about GN'R liking the pic, and what's not to like )!! High Voltage, I live in Kansas City (Johnson County), and made the long trek (22 hours) from KC to Vegas for the 2001 NYE shows. Quite a drive through the desert. With the wicked drought here, you're practically in a desert the whole way now....

I hope they use a vocal recording, other than the board recording. Axl's sound coming out of the speakers live at the show is so damn spot on it's amazing. Better than any of the dozen times I saw them in between 1988 and 1993. I've seen them 17 times since 2001, and the shows I saw in 2010, 2011, and 2012 were the best he's ever sounded. For whatever reason, the board does not quite catch the full dynamics of his range, and also Axl and Mayhue have figured out exactly how to get the sound live for the crowd damn near perfect (or as good as it gets for a live show). The guy can flat out wail, and everyone who has actually been at a show can attest to that.

So my recommendation, is to find some source for the vocals similar to whatever source "I Don't Care About Time" Tokyo 2009 used, on this 3-D recording. Many of the great concert movies, pre-2000's used different sources for the sound than the board (which is so damn dry and doesn't capture the audience vibe either). Think "Song Remains the Same, or the Stone's "Ladies and Gentlemen, The Rolling Stones". Or GN'R's MTV, 1988 special "Live at the Ritz". Those were not board recordings, and the sound is so much more organic!

Is there a good recording (the one that u say with the "tom mayhue" recording method) of a 2011/2012 show? what recordings are you talking about?

All over on Youtube! You Could be Mine with Duff from the 02, numerous high quality audience recordings from the audience of the US tour. Have you not been to a live show during the past few years?

saw them last year, yeah it was amazing, was like hearing the 90s axl but it was cuz it was too loud and with many people screaming and guitars, you just couldnt analyze the voice at the moment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUCrHW5PfuY

I hope they use a vocal recording, other than the board recording. Axl's sound coming out of the speakers live at the show is so damn spot on it's amazing. Better than any of the dozen times I saw them in between 1988 and 1993. I've seen them 17 times since 2001, and the shows I saw in 2010, 2011, and 2012 were the best he's ever sounded. For whatever reason, the board does not quite catch the full dynamics of his range, and also Axl and Mayhue have figured out exactly how to get the sound live for the crowd damn near perfect (or as good as it gets for a live show). The guy can flat out wail, and everyone who has actually been at a show can attest to that.

So my recommendation, is to find some source for the vocals similar to whatever source "I Don't Care About Time" Tokyo 2009 used, on this 3-D recording. Many of the great concert movies, pre-2000's used different sources for the sound than the board (which is so damn dry and doesn't capture the audience vibe either). Think "Song Remains the Same, or the Stone's "Ladies and Gentlemen, The Rolling Stones". Or GN'R's MTV, 1988 special "Live at the Ritz". Those were not board recordings, and the sound is so much more organic!

Is there a good recording (the one that u say with the "tom mayhue" recording method) of a 2011/2012 show? what recordings are you talking about?

All over on Youtube! You Could be Mine with Duff from the 02, numerous high quality audience recordings from the audience of the US tour. Have you not been to a live show during the past few years?

I hope they use a vocal recording, other than the board recording. Axl's sound coming out of the speakers live at the show is so damn spot on it's amazing. Better than any of the dozen times I saw them in between 1988 and 1993. I've seen them 17 times since 2001, and the shows I saw in 2010, 2011, and 2012 were the best he's ever sounded. For whatever reason, the board does not quite catch the full dynamics of his range, and also Axl and Mayhue have figured out exactly how to get the sound live for the crowd damn near perfect (or as good as it gets for a live show). The guy can flat out wail, and everyone who has actually been at a show can attest to that. In multiple US cities in 2011, the radio DJ's were very suspicious of GN'R's live performance PRIOR to the SHOW (they hadn't seen them in years, and just repeated the negative media crap slung around over the years, which most times was inaccurate); and then the day after the show were on the air claiming that "it may have been the best hard rock show I've ever seen" or "best show I've seen in years". All would praise how damn good Axl sounded. Even most critics, who go to the shows, comment on how great Axl sounds live. Almost all of the Vegas reviews, done by critics at the show, comment on how great Axl sounds. At the show, he is on the money. The crowd youtube recordings are good, but the dry, limited board recordings do not quite capture his full tenor. This has been the case going back to their origins in 85. The guy has a very unique, multi-layered voice, which is best experienced and appreciated in person.

So my recommendation, is to find some source for the vocals similar to whatever source "I Don't Care About Time" Tokyo 2009 used, on this 3-D recording. Many of the great concert movies, pre-2000's, used different sources for the sound than the board (which is so damn dry and doesn't capture the audience vibe either). Think "Song Remains the Same, or the Stone's "Ladies and Gentlemen, The Rolling Stones". Or GN'R's MTV, 1988 special "Live at the Ritz". Those were not board recordings, and the sound is so much more organic! I know they have professionally recorded sound from these shows other than the soundboard, and that is what they should use. It would be a shame if they didn't!