*YOOSH*

Imagine being a record exec with years in the business and then Axl's adopted housekeeping grandmother walks in and starts talking hardball to you. I'd point to a mop and say get to work Chico.

Truth.

Frank is the very best drummer GNR has ever had for many reasons! Fuck I love this band!!!

I don't agree , Brain had Josh's parts transcribed and had to mimic his playing on the album, also other than a few fills on Chinese he hasn't written anything, I will reserve further judgement till he has.

Also do you think Frank could have played Josh's parts?

Brain and Josh are session musicians, Frank is not.

Brain and Josh could out drum Frank whilst hog tied.

lolll that's fair enough. Who hasn't Axl fired. It's too common to even be taken serious. Thanks for putting the pic of Matt in here though. It's really good to see a pic of a GNR drummer in this thread.

Matt, Steven and Gilby are in an exclusive club when it comes to being fired. You must not know too much about the history of this band huh? That's OK, you'll learn.

Still sore about Guns N' Roses moving on without those that left? That's pretty sad, but I won't judge.

I'm not sore about it. I actually think it's better that the old guys get away from Axl. Its clear he has serious issues and cannot work with anyone. That's obvious by now. Even Tommy admits in interviews he gets on with Axl only "pretty well". In other words, whatever I get paid.

It's funny that you mention Tommy since he's been in the band longer than any of your relics. It's great good decent horrible to see Slash and Milfred? slaughter every attempt they make at a Guns N' Roses song though. And let's not even start on Velvet Revolver.

Yep he's so great, hes in the hall of fame.. oh wait. LOLLLLLL

Don't get me started on Myles, he's a hack.

Well, at least we can agree on something.

lolll that's fair enough. Who hasn't Axl fired. It's too common to even be taken serious. Thanks for putting the pic of Matt in here though. It's really good to see a pic of a GNR drummer in this thread.

Matt, Steven and Gilby are in an exclusive club when it comes to being fired. You must not know too much about the history of this band huh? That's OK, you'll learn.

Still sore about Guns N' Roses moving on without those that left? That's pretty sad, but I won't judge.

I'm not sore about it. I actually think it's better that the old guys get away from Axl. Its clear he has serious issues and cannot work with anyone. That's obvious by now. Even Tommy admits in interviews he gets on with Axl only "pretty well". In other words, whatever I get paid.

It's funny that you mention Tommy since he's been in the band longer than any of your relics. It's great good decent horrible to see Slash and Milfred? slaughter every attempt they make at a Guns N' Roses song though. And let's not even start on Velvet Revolver.

Yep he's so great, hes in the hall of fame.. oh wait. LOLLLLLL

Don't get me started on Myles, he's a hack.

I'm not sore about it. I actually think it's better that the old guys get away from Axl. Its clear he has serious issues and cannot work with anyone. That's obvious by now. Even Tommy admits in interviews he gets on with Axl only "pretty well". In other words, whatever I get paid.

Are you kidding?

"im in love with axl, i can't live without him?" are you expecting this?

I would never expect another band member to carry on like DJ, so no. lol

lolll that's fair enough. Who hasn't Axl fired. It's too common to even be taken serious. Thanks for putting the pic of Matt in here though. It's really good to see a pic of a GNR drummer in this thread.

Matt, Steven and Gilby are in an exclusive club when it comes to being fired. You must not know too much about the history of this band huh? That's OK, you'll learn.

Still sore about Guns N' Roses moving on without those that left? That's pretty sad, but I won't judge.

I'm not sore about it. I actually think it's better that the old guys get away from Axl. Its clear he has serious issues and cannot work with anyone. That's obvious by now. Even Tommy admits in interviews he gets on with Axl only "pretty well". In other words, whatever I get paid.

Frank's cool. I'd buy him a beer.

I saw him walking down St Georges Tce in 2007. He was struttin' that sidewalk with some style.

Admit it, he was trout pouting lol

Frank is badass

Matt Baron Von Storm is

Here's a better one.

I'm sure you could even find worse loll. I dont really think that's even bad. Certainly a lot better than just being plonked there for 2 hours like a slob trout pouting and drumming like a 90 year old

Nah, look at how he is trying to shit himself there. I wonder how many depends he went through forcing out his weak drum beats. You're right though, it would probably be very easy to find worse, because he couldn't keep one expression on his moronic face.

Edit: To answer your question, he got fired. I liked that quite a bit.

lolll that's fair enough. Who hasn't Axl fired. It's too common to even be taken serious. Thanks for putting the pic of Matt in here though. It's really good to see a pic of a GNR drummer in this thread.

Frank is badass

Matt Baron Von Storm is

Here's a better one.

I'm sure you could even find worse loll. I dont really think that's even bad. Certainly a lot better than just being plonked there for 2 hours like a slob trout pouting and drumming like a 90 year old

Frank is badass

Matt Baron Von Storm is

loll as ridiculous as Matt's character is, it doesn't touch how ridiculous Frank is...or should I say Thunderchucker :rofl-lol: That guy is just cringeworthy as a whole.

Nah, as bad as Frank is, Scrotum makes him look like a godsend.

Is there anything that Sorum did that you like?

Frank is badass

Matt Baron Von Storm is

loll as ridiculous as Matt's character is, it doesn't touch how ridiculous Frank is...or should I say Thunderchucker :rofl-lol: That guy is just cringeworthy as a whole.

Frank is ok, like him better than Brain. He reminds me of Sorum, does his job well, with no surprises. He can never seem to get the intro on Brownstone right though:P

To me, Sorum brought power, passion and a hard intense driving sound. Yeah Frank's Brownstone intro is bloody terrible.

To me, Sorum brought sub-standard rock beats and moronic drummer faces. To each their own I guess.

Are you a fan of Frank's trout pout? I would have searched for a pic as an example but I didn't have to go far. Look in the OP's post. Hilarious. Kim Kardashian on drums -------> :xmasschef2:

Frank is ok, like him better than Brain. He reminds me of Sorum, does his job well, with no surprises. He can never seem to get the intro on Brownstone right though:P

To me, Sorum brought power, passion and a hard intense driving sound. Yeah Frank's Brownstone intro is bloody terrible.

Hopefully they will get Brain back soon.

In my opinion, Frank is the most sluggish pro drummer I have ever seen. He mostly just keeps time and plays most of the songs completely wrong.

Axl believes she's right to manage Guns N' Roses. Are you seriously so arrogant as to think you know better? And why? Because you read some stuff on a forum?

I'm sure Axl appreciates your input. But at the end of the day, he's the guy who made Guns N' Roses. And you're the guy who read about it online.

Think of it like this. You have a junkie and then hand the oversight of his recovery to his girlfriend who gives in to his bad habits. Nothing positive will come of that situation, or the one Axl has put himself in now. He will be put back in his comfort zone and will waste year after year like he did before when no-one was in place to tell him otherwise.

And I'm sure Axl doesn't appreciate my input. He fires world renowned managers every 6 months, so why would he listen to me

Axl is his own worst enemy.

The thing is, and it is probably off topic a little, is that we could have put a lot of this speculation to rest if Eddie Trunk had any idea at all how to conduct an interview. When Axl said "release it...what does that mean?" he could have said something to the effect of "Well, Axl you had been working on an album since 1997. Prior to that you had successfully put out five albums in a six year period so , yes, people expect a musician with a recording contract to release music."

This would help to answer a lot of our questions because a big reason we care about who is managing the band is because we want more music. Simple as that.

Eddie Trunk would ask a question or, most of the time, pay a compliment - Axl would respond and then they would move on to the next cue card. It was like a Q&A section from some teeny bopper magazine. Has the man EVER heard of a follow up question?

As I said, slightly off topic.

Eddie Trunk was just happy to have the interview. The LA Times writer asked good and pointed questions without being a dick, and got some pretty interesting answers

With regards to new music, we already saw that having varying degrees of professional managers did nothing to expedite the process. So I don't think that's the deciding factor. The version of CD we got was probably about 85% complete in 2002 (proven by demos), the only real differences being Ron's overdubs and solos, some additional backing vocals, and a few other changes in instrumentation/arrangements that were not that big of a deal (e.g. TWAT got a beefed up, thick power chord guitar section in the chorus that was cool but could've been recorded in a day). Ron recorded his parts in several months; the album simply wasn't that far from being done in 2002. But like Tommy said record label politics and Johnny Come Lately A&R guys, big name producers, etc. delayed it indefinitely when all it needed were a few tweaks.

I get the sense from the latest shows and interviews that Axl is more confident in the current "new lineup" than he's ever been. And for good reason. I've seen the new lineup in the 2002, 2006 and 2011 iterations and 2011 blew the previous versions away, in every area: chemistry, setlist, sound, performance, etc. And this is coming from someone who thought the 2002 and 2006 shows I saw were amazing (still do). This current lineup is an absolute machine. I have no doubt they could make an incredible album. I think Axl senses this too; Ron & DJ sense it based on their interviews. If they can hits the studio for 6-8 months after the tour ends, they could release a great double album by teaming new songs with some (slightly) reworked songs from the CD sessions and have an absolute classic on their hands

How many managers is that now? Honestly, you people can't even see that this is basically the end of GNR. An outside manager was the only chance of any new music coming out. Beta's whole philosophy is not making Axl do anything he doesn't want to. We all know Axl really doesn't want to do much. If you think you've seen the worse of last minute concert/tour cancellations, inactivity etc this will trump it all. Now with Axl's mummy telling him not to do anything he doesn't feel like doing, this band is basically over.

This band is a f****g joke.

Which banned douchebag are you? TIA

Beta was "in charge" of the band when they "miraculously" managed to schedule all those shows in late 2009/2010 in Asia, Canada and South America that ended up at or near capacity when Azoff was busy killing their Summer 2009 Van Halen tour and trying to push Axl into a reunion tour. I'm sure (banned) douchebags like yourself would've loved that but you didn't get your way.

So she booked a couple of shows, big deal. Half the reason of having a manager in a band is that you need someone independent to make decisions. This way it's all going to be whatever Axl wants. Last time it was like that he went into hiding for over a decade and took CD 15 years to get released. Thank god the record company finally said enough and grabbed it from his hands. Knowing Axl would have been another decade waiting for his 'artwork'.

Axl has been through how many managers now? Yet he can't work with anyone. A bit like guitarists hey. It's all their fault.

The world can't be wrong.

The thing is, and it is probably off topic a little, is that we could have put a lot of this speculation to rest if Eddie Trunk had any idea at all how to conduct an interview. When Axl said "release it...what does that mean?" he could have said something to the effect of "Well, Axl you had been working on an album since 1997. Prior to that you had successfully put out five albums in a six year period so , yes, people expect a musician with a recording contract to release music."

This would help to answer a lot of our questions because a big reason we care about who is managing the band is because we want more music. Simple as that.

Eddie Trunk would ask a question or, most of the time, pay a compliment - Axl would respond and then they would move on to the next cue card. It was like a Q&A section from some teeny bopper magazine. Has the man EVER heard of a follow up question?

As I said, slightly off topic.

Eddie Trunk was just happy to have the interview. The LA Times writer asked good and pointed questions without being a dick, and got some pretty interesting answers

With regards to new music, we already saw that having varying degrees of professional managers did nothing to expedite the process. So I don't think that's the deciding factor. The version of CD we got was probably about 85% complete in 2002 (proven by demos), the only real differences being Ron's overdubs and solos, some additional backing vocals, and a few other changes in instrumentation/arrangements that were not that big of a deal (e.g. TWAT got a beefed up, thick power chord guitar section in the chorus that was cool but could've been recorded in a day). Ron recorded his parts in several months; the album simply wasn't that far from being done in 2002. But like Tommy said record label politics and Johnny Come Lately A&R guys, big name producers, etc. delayed it indefinitely when all it needed were a few tweaks.

I get the sense from the latest shows and interviews that Axl is more confident in the current "new lineup" than he's ever been. And for good reason. I've seen the new lineup in the 2002, 2006 and 2011 iterations and 2011 blew the previous versions away, in every area: chemistry, setlist, sound, performance, etc. And this is coming from someone who thought the 2002 and 2006 shows I saw were amazing (still do). This current lineup is an absolute machine. I have no doubt they could make an incredible album. I think Axl senses this too; Ron & DJ sense it based on their interviews. If they can hits the studio for 6-8 months after the tour ends, they could release a great double album by teaming new songs with some (slightly) reworked songs from the CD sessions and have an absolute classic on their hands

How many managers is that now? Honestly, you people can't even see that this is basically the end of GNR. An outside manager was the only chance of any new music coming out. Beta's whole philosophy is not making Axl do anything he doesn't want to. We all know Axl really doesn't want to do much. If you think you've seen the worse of last minute concert/tour cancellations, inactivity etc this will trump it all. Now with Axl's mummy telling him not to do anything he doesn't feel like doing, this band is basically over.

This band is a f****g joke.

That interview was an hour of 3 guys doing nothing but licking Axl's boots without actually asking anything meaningful. Such a wasted opportunity. I think all of them will show. The fact Axl didn't confirm anything is just him being coy and making it out like it's not important to him. He'll be there.

I suppose you guys want recordings of the phone calls as well.

The CEO said that each camp said they're coming. Why would Axl have his people say that if he either wasn't sure, or had no intent to come?

Why didn't Axl just say "no, I'm focused on what GNR is now" or something instead of leaving it open ended? He knew had they been inducted, Slash would be apart of it. Maybe the tension is simmering down...at least to a point where they can accept the award on the same stage. There's more evidence out there now suggesting that it's more likely to happen than not at this point...

Personally, I think they are going to perform together. I don't know why I just have a hunch. Then when they do, it will be inevitable that a reunion will happen. I just think Axl will want to do it because he knows that it will look bad on him if he doesn't. Every former member has come out and said they are cool with him. He knows he'll look like the idiot and I'm sure he doesn't want it turning into Van Halen 2.0. That's what I reckon.

Only on a GNR board can you say you don't like one member of the band and have 500 fangirls calling for you to be banned.

Lol its not like you went "You know, I am not a huge DJ fan. I just can't get into what he is doing, etc."

You go off on these tirades - bashing him and going off on "LOL DJ is a sellout poser emo kid etc., etc." which is counterproductive to any kind of proper discussion here (it isn't even the proper topic to go off on an anti-DJ tirade)

Plus you continually bash the whole band, not "one member" like you try to spin it

Next time I will put it more diplomatically that I don't like him, so I don't hurt your widdle feelings.

Trust me, no feelings are hurt on my end. But here is the thing: if you want to bash people and start immature tirades, nobody is going to take anything you have to say seriously and you will not last long here.

I'm here to give my opinion. If the mods honestly want to run a dictatorship on here that the only opinion should be that the new band is great then it's not even worth being on here. It's just another HTGTH with another bunch of mindless drones. Fair enough I might not stay here long, I guess Jarmo bought this board then. The realistic thing here is, something replied to my post in a sarcastic manner and I done the same. Thats the end of it, why sulk about it.

Only on a GNR board can you say you don't like one member of the band and have 500 fangirls calling for you to be banned.

Ummm, this is a FAN forum. And you trolled this entire band, not just Ashba.

I am a fan of GNR, they will be attending the RNRHOF in April. Have you heard? Just because I, the RNRHOF and the entire world prefer the real GNR doesn't mean we have no place on a GNR forum. Without the old band, you wouldn't have your new band of nobodies to drool over.

There you go again, you bashed the band. Like it or not, the real Guns N' Roses is the fellows that are touring with Axl. Most of the guys getting inducted are just former members.

Keep telling yourself that pal. Obviously the RNRHOF, the world and I don't agree with you, so really pointless to go further.

Only on a GNR board can you say you don't like one member of the band and have 500 fangirls calling for you to be banned.

Lol its not like you went "You know, I am not a huge DJ fan. I just can't get into what he is doing, etc."

You go off on these tirades - bashing him and going off on "LOL DJ is a sellout poser emo kid etc., etc." which is counterproductive to any kind of proper discussion here (it isn't even the proper topic to go off on an anti-DJ tirade)

Plus you continually bash the whole band, not "one member" like you try to spin it

Next time I will put it more diplomatically that I don't like him, so I don't hurt your widdle feelings.

Only on a GNR board can you say you don't like one member of the band and have 500 fangirls calling for you to be banned.

Ummm, this is a FAN forum. And you trolled this entire band, not just Ashba.

I am a fan of GNR, they will be attending the RNRHOF in April. Have you heard? Just because I, the RNRHOF and the entire world prefer the real GNR doesn't mean we have no place on a GNR forum. Without the old band, you wouldn't have your new band of nobodies to drool over.

Only on a GNR board can you say you don't like one member of the band and have 500 fangirls calling for you to be banned.

The good thing is we are one step closer to not having to put up with this new band anymore.

Right. And hopefully we won't have to put up with these Slash solo albums anymore.

Dumb.

Maybe you would rather a DJ Ashba solo album. You'd love the eyeliner and mascara kit it would come with. Not to mention the Slash inspired top hat! Good to see the boy knows whose boss.

And you are going to be banned in 5... 4... 3... 2........

Dry ur eyes precious, didn't know I had logged onto HTGTH.. geez :/

The good thing is we are one step closer to not having to put up with this new band anymore.

Right. And hopefully we won't have to put up with these Slash solo albums anymore.

Dumb.

Maybe you would rather a DJ Ashba solo album. You'd love the eyeliner and mascara kit it would come with. Not to mention the Slash inspired top hat! Good to see the boy knows whose boss.

Only if the top hat sparkles and the eyeliner is the same color as Fergie's.

lolll. You might be able to find a top hat like that in Ashbas store. I hear the new DJ Ashba ashtray is in. Also, the new DJ Ashba car air freshner. Pick up a bargain and support a rock icon who would never sell out like that bozo nobody $lash!