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51, about a year and less than a month younger than Axl Rose

lack of ANY response answered my question for me:

NO!

• are there any plans for a US tour afterwards? still jonesing for a show up here as its been over 2 years now that I saw them in Worcester, Ma.

I was fortunate to be at the Worcester, Ma. show the day after Thanksgiving 2011 and as far as I know the only time the band played "Scraped" on the whole US tour

screw anyone that does not like Chinese Democracy

each time I listen to it I love it even more

thanks for the info as I will be purchasing one as soon as I recover from my mechanics auto repair bill!

I don't think Axl had anything to do with the the LA. Guns stuff. He was only in that band for a short time and did different songs than those. Indiana Ain't My Kinda Town I thought was something made up on the spot or something they were working on in Nov 1985. So now I know it was an ols Rose/ Hollywood song. The rest is Just some older Rose demos. It cool that you found that stuff.

Sorry as I should have listened to LA Guns first as it definitely was not Axl singing.

I hear the intro to Killing Time

"Killing Time , take one" sounds like an English chap!

very surprised this did not ever get released becasue it kicks ass and everyone sounds great especially Axl!

I think it is very cool that you can determine this is from Nov 1985

Indiana sounds like it was recorderd with an audience in the single digits and they started a Mama Kin riff at the beginning, and like you said , kind of ad libbed and did this on the spot. Axl really puts some soul into it too really screaming. At the end of it he says the next song we will do is Heartbreak Hotel. WTF? sounds like no one is there! lol

Thanks Marc I think it is great we have you here to be the authority for us on all of these rare recordings.

I will see what else I can find this weekend!

Nov 22, 1985 Troubadour gig was there first sold out gig.

Thanks for my new background for my PC at work Marc!

I don't think Axl had anything to do with the the LA. Guns stuff. He was only in that band for a short time and did different songs than those. Indiana Ain't My Kinda Town I thought was something made up on the spot or something they were working on in Nov 1985. So now I know it was an ols Rose/ Hollywood song. The rest is Just some older Rose demos. It cool that you found that stuff.

Sorry as I should have listened to LA Guns first as it definitely was not Axl singing.

I hear the intro to Killing Time

"Killing Time , take one" sounds like an English chap!

very surprised this did not ever get released becasue it kicks ass and everyone sounds great especially Axl!

I think it is very cool that you can determine this is from Nov 1985

Indiana sounds like it was recorderd with an audience in the single digits and they started a Mama Kin riff at the beginning, and like you said , kind of ad libbed and did this on the spot. Axl really puts some soul into it too really screaming. At the end of it he says the next song we will do is Heartbreak Hotel. WTF? sounds like no one is there! lol

Thanks Marc I think it is great we have you here to be the authority for us on all of these rare recordings.

I will see what else I can find this weekend!

sorry Marc, its me babbling again...

I also found something called Guns and Roses (Bootleg) (1981-1983)

Titled:

"Hollywood Roses Rehearsal" (16:42 in length)

sounds like it was recorded at one of LA's nightclubs

nice garage band feel, very raw, yet very tight and melodic!

their voices in between songs and jams sound like a bunch of kids, duh, they were!

they are discussing how to play and all the sounds and it is the most bitching thing I have ever heard.

it literally brings the listener in and I feel like a fly on the wall and am honored to be there

mostly its just an instrumental jam as I did not recognize the song played, not great quality as it was very early 80s

this is epic! just imagine being there and Axl wanted to know when I come and and when the bass comes in, etc. I heard a chick's voice too, Christy? who is Christy? ("when you come in")

"come in on the second one, the third one, the fourth one" Axl

"ready John?" Axl

this maybe although not the best G&R, my favorite! behind the scenes at a G&R practice? thats like the coolest thing ever!

recording just ends at 16:42 like someone pulled the plug out of the wall

once again I will rely on Marc's expertise and hopefully you can shed some light on this

Thank you Marc for your time and efforts as it is greatly appreciated by us diehard G&R fans!

got some more unreleased stuff off the internet over the weekend:

"The Roots of Guns & Roses"

Hollywood Rose

8 tracks, 3 dudes on cover look like some bleach blonde dude and a very young Axl and Izzy.

the following tracks sound like they were recoded in a studio as demos

1) Anything Goes

2) Rocker

3) Never Enough

4) Anything Goes (again)

5) Shadow of Your Love

6) Indiana Ain't My Kinda Town

7) Your Looks are Gone

8) Killing Time (original Demo version)

2 unreleased tracks sounds like it was recorded at a studio as demos, very raw

Hollywood Rose

1) Wreckless Life (working title: Wreckless)

2 Shadow of Your Love

Rose 1981 Demos (color photo blonde dude Duff? playing a red flying V, Izzy in white shirt with black guitar, Axl red/black flannel shirt with t - shirt with something written on it and blue jeans, guy with black hair light blue shirt unbuttoned cropped out of photo, Slash?

these 4 below grabbed at www.viamusical.net 1981? wow is there anything available eariler???

1) My Way Your Way

2) Shadow of Your Love

3) Wreckless Life

4) Taxi Driver

LA Guns (sounds like the last of a chronological order, very tight and polished)

1) Sex Action

2) Electric Gypsy

3) One More Reason (Live)

4) Bitch is Back (Live)

5) The Ballad of Jayne (Live)

6) Rip and Tear

7) Never Enough

8) Kiss My Love Goodbye

All of this stuff, Hollywood Rose and LA Guns above was labeled as the roots of G&R

Marc , since you were there can you shed some light on these 4 different recordings?

LA Guns sounds like a professional recorded and released album

I am guessing that was the last of these 4 recordings

Do you know who was with each band at the time?

I try to make sure I have all the original 5's stuff anyway I can get it, obviously.

Thanks for taking the time to deal with all of us diehard fans!

We appreciate you Marc!

got some more unreleased stuff off the internet over the weekend:

"The Roots of Guns & Roses"

Hollywood Rose

8 tracks, 3 dudes on cover look like some bleach blonde dude and a very young Axl and Izzy.

the following tracks sound like they were recoded in a studio as demos

1) Anything Goes

2) Rocker

3) Never Enough

4) Anything Goes (again)

5) Shadow of Your Love

6) Indiana Ain't My Kinda Town

7) Your Looks are Gone

8) Killing Time (original Demo version)

2 unreleased tracks sounds like it was recorded at a studio as demos, very raw

Hollywood Rose

1) Wreckless Life (working title: Wreckless)

2 Shadow of Your Love

Rose 1981 Demos (color photo blonde dude Duff? playing a red flying V, Izzy in white shirt with black guitar, Axl red/black flannel shirt with t - shirt with something written on it and blue jeans, guy with black hair light blue shirt unbuttoned cropped out of photo, Slash?

these 4 below grabbed at www.viamusical.net 1981? wow is there anything available eariler???

1) My Way Your Way

2) Shadow of Your Love

3) Wreckless Life

4) Taxi Driver

LA Guns (sounds like the last of a chronological order, very tight and polished)

1) Sex Action

2) Electric Gypsy

3) One More Reason (Live)

4) Bitch is Back (Live)

5) The Ballad of Jayne (Live)

6) Rip and Tear

7) Never Enough

8) Kiss My Love Goodbye

All of this stuff, Hollywood Rose and LA Guns above was labeled as the roots of G&R

Marc , since you were there can you shed some light on these 4 different recordings?

LA Guns sounds like a professional recorded and released album

I am guessing that was the last of these 4 recordings

Do you know who was with each band at the time?

I try to make sure I have all the original 5's stuff anyway I can get it, obviously.

Thanks for taking the time to deal with all of us diehard fans!

We appreciate you Marc!

Just quickly wanted to say other than one or two idiots, the members here seem very excited about marc being here and Marc, BIG thank you for your keen effort in answering the questions - on behalf of the community, thank you so much and we hope you continue to enjoy your time here!

I just picked up Stephen Davis' book on G&R and was upset as I was looking for Marc's book and could not find it at Barnes & Noble.

Already read Slash, Steven, and Duff's books.

Any chance Axl or Izzy write a book? lol

You wasted your money of the Stephen Davis book it;s crap and mostly all bullshit. Izzy will never put out a book but Axl because he has so much on his mind may someday put one out. I think he would have a lot less shit to carry on his shoulders if he did.

you are right as Davis shoddy reporting freakin' guessing at stuff and quoting Kerrang! is a bad read. I am gulity as charged as I was specifically looking for yours as it has a ton of photos and settled for Davis' who wrote Hammer of the Gods which Slash said in his book saying he read it and it sounds made up

DJs name wasnt even in the intro. but he was playing jimmy fallons intro, and fallon seemed like he was pointing at him a couple of times. think he played half of mi amor 4 minutes into the show, the fallon annouced him as "THAT IS GUNS N ROSES GUITARIST DJ ASHBA." and said how hes hosting an event at the hard rock(?) in las vegas because of bullyville.com. talked about the residency. Fallon made a joke "you do know the band has to show up to these gigs correct? thats what a residency is!" with ashba saying "we can live there we dont have to leave!" and fallon replying with "oh my thats going to be a nightmare... and thats about all the time he got besides outros and such

EDIT: also when fallon was doing his "Pros and Cons" of sharkweek fallon says "PRO- sharks are the most terrifying creatures in the water. CON- Besides womens synchronized swimmers" and he showed a picture of all the stupid faces they made and cut to DJ i guess to get a shot of there guest laughing and enjoying himself, and all he was doing was standing there not even laughing with his hand on his guitar.

thats hilarious!

props to DJ when I saw them last year he walked on the top of where they would normally have plexiglass for a hockey game (obviously taken down for a concert) and came out right by my 1st row loge seat down about a 1/4 way to the center from the stage and when I yelled "DJ!" he stopped and played a lead about a foot away from me and then proceeded to 3/4 of the way away from the stage and played another solo for some hot chick.

I forgot what song I was so stoked!

Imo Crash Diet is recorded around the same time as the other songs that are mentioned above. Axl's voice from that era is different (more raw) than on the Illusion recordings. Is it possible for you to send an email to Axl and ask him when Crash diet was recorded?

On "Crash Diet" Axl sounds awesome and the vocal sound is much cleaner and not as raw as "Sessions"

I think Marc is correct that it was recorded at a different studio and maybe later in the 80s

I also have Oh My God and it says House of Blues 2001 (which one?) either the acoustics in that building suck or the mix is bad as Axl vocals fade in and out and are not crystal clear.

I also has a bootleg version of Chinese Democracy that has a different album cover too and includes different sounds like Silkworms

I did legally buy the final cut of Chinese Democracy off of Apple too

Live DVD would be cool, but we've been saying that for what, ten years now?

I know DJ Ashba said they have all sorts of stuff written and just need to get in the studio to put out another album.

Hopefully this means another tour after Vegas as I just saw them last November in Worcester, Ma. and Axl was early arriving on stage at 10:20 for a Friday night show!

At any rate this is GREAT NEWS!!!

Marc I have something titled "Sessions" that has :

Jumping Jack Flash

Reckless Life

heartbreak hotel

shadow of your love

jungle

move to the city

mama kin

instrumental jam - awesome!

west coast junkie

a different version of November Rain

rocket queen

night train

my michelle

your're crazy

paradise city

nice boys

back off bitch

anything goes

and an unwanted illusion - crash diet

all taken off the internet

my question is where the heck did this come from?

sounds like raw versions of everything before the records were made and totally cool!

Just quickly wanted to say other than one or two idiots, the members here seem very excited about marc being here and Marc, BIG thank you for your keen effort in answering the questions - on behalf of the community, thank you so much and we hope you continue to enjoy your time here!

I just picked up Stephen Davis' book on G&R and was upset as I was looking for Marc's book and could not find it at Barnes & Noble.

Already read Slash, Steven, and Duff's books.

Any chance Axl or Izzy write a book? lol