fozzie

Wow he really is struggling isnt he?

Is Vegas the right place for any new stuff im not so sure so if im honest all i see is them sticking to the very polished (and very,very good) live show to be honest

It is obvious he was sick. Bumblefoot even came on gunsnroses.com and confirmed it and gave him props for even doing the show. His voice was cutting out at many parts where it never would before and I am not talking back in the 90s or early 2000s, his voice would have never cut out like that at any of the shows earlier this year. He sounded amazing when I saw him in February on the UCAP tour. I am very sorry he was sick and sorry for the luck of these streamed shows always getting the sick voice, I remember back in 2011 him having bronchitis as well possibly near the RIR show. Axl always says himself back luck follows him around, so this could be just one of those things. Being a singer and one that travels around to different climates and being cooped in hotels much of the time it is not a surprise that he acquires these upper respiratory illnesses.

This is not the end of the world or the end of GNR by any means, he was sick, period. I thought Patience sounded pretty good. Just the songs that require the growl and scream were out of reach with strep throat. Think how frustrating it must be for him. I'm glad he did the show despite the illness and did not cause another no-show headline right before the Vegas shows.

You literally have so many professional singers in the world, that also travel and age, and yet this only happens to Axl Rose. Yes, that sounds like a way of explaining things correctly...

Yes.... only Axl.

These are just a few news articles from the past couple of weeks:

http://perezhilton.c...roat-vocal-rest

http://www.contactmu...ormance_3334388

http://web.orange.co..._tv_performance

http://global.christ...-twitter-82873/

some more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0jChXK2OHw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oolgONF7gS0

You made me click a link to Cherly Cole and Bieber..warn people man

Fozzie, you seem to now be trying to completely rewrite what you were saying previously.

Before, you said you thought GNR didn't have good songs in the vault because if they were good, they would have been on Chinese.

I pointed out that Chinese was not all of the best songs thrown on one disc. Chinese was its own album, but more material was made during that ten year period. Certain songs belonged on the second album, regardless of whether they were better than some of the songs on the first album.

I'm sure DJ is hopeful of writing new songs for the next record, but in the end it will be Axl's final decision on what to include.

I personally would like to hear more from the Buckethead era as most of Chinese was songs that were written before Buckethead joined.

Im not rewriting anything mate,if anything i agreed with you on a couple of points over the tour etc i don't think in my last post i mentioned anything bar thew fact that in interviews DJ,a member of the band for what 3 years now often mentions about writing,or at least hoping to start writing with Axl..if that's the case then if as you say there's stuff in the vault then should we believe anything DJ says my view and this hasn't changed is this there's not as much stuff in the vault as people HOPE there is (certainly not disrespecting you MSL far from it nice to have a civil discussion about the band).

On a side note i thought Buckethead was a terrible fit for the band,he was never going to be a long term member surely he's too much of his own man for that so while i respect what he did i think the current line up is a band rather than band with 2 showmen in it surrounded by session men (i await the flak for that comment).

At this point though if Axl said he would sing the phone book i'd take it,its time for anew record wherever its from and to me i think the more interesting issue is will it be released? i'm not so sure,not so sure at all.

i ask you this IF there masses of songs ready to go why on earth would Axl give them the ok now when he clearly didn't think they where good enough for CD a few years back it doesn't add up.

GNR spent close to ten years writing and recording enough material for multiple albums. Why are you under the impression that Chinese is a "best of" of that entire period? I think that's a common misconception. Certain songs were intended for certain albums. Chinese was not necessarily the best of the bunch. Most of the songs on Chinese are from before Buckethead, Bumblefoot, Fortus and DJ were even in the band.

You're right of course i didnt make myself clear,i certainly dont think the first couple of years post CD was the "greatest hits" show it was in the albums promotion,but you have to accept that the last couple of years has had everything to do with the GH tour and hey no bad thing,it is as ive said before a great show.

As to your point about the timeframe of whatever songs where written of course the current band where for the most part not there,now if thats the case why on earth does DJ in many interviews bang on about "writing" with Axl? if Axl has songs good to go then why on earth would he need to be writing with DJ? it doesnt make sense now of course DJ is a hell of a salesman and words do get mixed up in interviews,but hey just my thoughts and i hope im wrong and we see a new album out soon,but and im gonna say it now not stuff from years ago,new material written by the current band but time will tell.

Maybe self publishing will,in the future be the way for Axl to go because sadly i just don't see any major label giving him a deal unless he has masses of stuff ready to go,the numbers spent on CD will haunt him becuase without doubt the industry has changed since those days

he already has a deal.

he has masses of stuff ready to go.

the number "spent on CD" was really spent to make multiple albums and CD recouped all of the money spent already.

He clearly doesn't like the deal or surely it would have been at the very least talked about and not in the usual vague terms,listening to DJ he's always going on about writing with Axl etc i don't think he was around at the time of the original CD recording was he? a lot of spin goes on in interviews of course but i ask you this IF there masses of songs ready to go why on earth would Axl give them the ok now when he clearly didn't think they where good enough for CD a few years back it doesn't add up.

No one but Axl and Beta know how many songs has truely has locked away a few out takes,b side fodder for certain but an album worth of songs good enough to pass the Axl test of quality well of that im not so sure and while ive no doubt there's comments out on the internet saying oh yes there's loads of songs there again no one really knows bar the inner circle.

And then theres the problem of getting the album out and about to me at least he's in limbo,touring endlessly the greatest hits package (which is fearsomely good by the way best live band ive seen in many years),there no real sign of a new album coming out as frustrating as that is by the way i think he's become a victim of well himself for certain and record company politics and im not sure there a way out for him yet.

Oh and dont think i care about who plays the banjo or bashing the bongo's in the band either Gun's n roses are Axl and that unique voice of his there should be more albums out and it really frustrating that nothing new is on the horizon maybe its time for him to look towards the future and maybe when he can free himself of the contract look at self publishing.

Maybe self publishing will,in the future be the way for Axl to go because sadly i just don't see any major label giving him a deal unless he has masses of stuff ready to go,the numbers spent on CD will haunt him becuase without doubt the industry has changed since those days

Good cause no one can have any complaints about this gig surely?

It has an air of truth for sure but who knows

He's looking pretty good

While this line up are superb live i dont think this will launch anything new,surely the people paying for the residency want the hits nothing more

http://thejointlasvegas.com/Home/Events/Event-Details.aspx?id=235

Guns N’ Roses has teamed up with Hard Rock Hotel & Casino to invade Las Vegas with a never-before-seen, one-of-a-kind music experience. Each night, the band will perform an electrifying show featuring a set list created exclusively for The Joint.

Exact details about the show are being kept under wraps but fans can expect the raw and gritty heavy metal Guns N’ Roses is known for along with a few surprise elements. Produced exclusively by AEG Live, Appetite for Democracy is unlike any show the band has ever done before or will ever do again.

If this is true and not just advertising blurb then it could be interesting but its that word..if

No i dont more of the same no bad thing its a hell of a show

I think he's leaving guys. Just listen to this he's just put up :(

If thats not a GOODBYE, i don't know what is.

http://jstsay.in/0006dp

To me the audio sounds like an audition for late night radio

izzy stradlin on stage

You couldn't make it up

Umm he does seem like a nice guy but maybe this close to the end of the tour it isn't the time to go public with any grievances he has,don't get me wrong if my boss had pulled a stunt like this with no notice i would,without a doubt give him a volley he wouldn't forget that is of course assuming i could find him in the first place.

Maybe this is the right time for Bumble to leave the band,every job should have a shelf life,nothing lasts for ever and maybe it is the time for him to leave and get himself better.

Don't care really how much cash is/was offered sometimes you have to say no and this is one of those times is this what this great band has come down to playing a few hits to a bunch of toffs out of their skulls on god knows what no doubt dancing round their diamond studded handbags and doing the conga to "Mr Brownstone"