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If you do not get Izzy you really are just getting a half arsed circus version of GN'R (like the 1992-3 band) since he is the one who wrote much of the material. That song Axl is singing, Patience? Well you can remove that from your setlist for a start. Sweet Child has to go also since he wrote the chords. I just do not understand why anyone would minimise Izzy's contribution. Izzy is the only guy to have walked from that band with his integrity 100% intact.
IF axl was only allowed play songs he wrote the set list would be:
Estranged
This I love
Street of dream
November Rain
Dont Cry
Most the songs are axl and izzy, a few are with the other band mates.
Whichever one has Axl.
Like it or not, you are always better off with the voice of the material everyone knows.
even when axl voice is not too good some shows, its still unbelievable and sound a lot like the studio.
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The first one that puts out some fucking new music together.
It seems to be a battle of who can do it later
Neither.
Your own this forum why?
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If you had to go watch a 3 hour show of Guns N Roses material, which lineup are you going to see?
Myles Kennedy
Slash
Duff
Gilby
Frank Sidoris
Todd Kerns
Brent Fitz
Axl
Duff OR Izzy
Dizzy
DJ
Bumblefoot
Richard
Chris
Frank
Axl
Duff OR Izzy
Dizzy
DJ
Bumblefoot
Richard
Chris
Frank
Slash is coming my town at festival (rock on the range) I'm not going. Guns n roses were at that festival in 2014 and i saw them.
And also do you want to hear November rain, estranged, don't cry, you could be mine, and possible a new song? or would you rather see slash and some dude play welcome to the jungle, paradise city then some other songs that nobody has ever heard of? Im going to take the ballad and heavy rock show of axl and his band guns n roses
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On my count for album releases (including EP)
AFD
Lies (this was a legitimate release and it was successful, but does it count)
UYI I & II (1 record)
TSI (this one I'm not sure)
Chinese.
They still owe more records but... I highly doubt that they will release 2 to 3 more albums of original music.
They have already announced CD 2 and CD 1 remix. One album with original work and another with remix from last album. I don't expect them to have a Chinese democracy 3 or 4 but I DO except a CD 2 and remix album.
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Fuck me, I've just vomited.
whats wrong with the tweet
Beta is part of the management team, the same management team that won't release new music or convince Axl to release new music, therefore Beta = devil.
So, do you know for a fact that the reason we haven't had any new music since 2008 is because of the management team (Beta and co)?
It's a serious question. There's a lot of hatred towards Team Brazil around here, and I don't know how fair or justified that is... it seems most people regard them as evil, but I don't really know why.
Is there something they have or haven't done to deserve this?
Because
a. they show open contempt for the fans: 'complaints complaints complaints', 'now we don't have to release new music' etc.
b. they're full of shit - '3 hour meeting' announcements etc. that yield nothing
c. all that the band has done under their management is stagnate, fall apart and put out an embarrassingly shitty DVD
d. there's a good argument to be made that bands should be managed by professionals with experience in the music industry and not your former nanny and her kid.
Its great what she did for axl in the 90s but she shouldn't be running guns n roses. Del and Axl should be.
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Axl just needs duff and then the current lineup can do it.
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I was thinking it was del
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in a recent interview, izzy said that he would take part to the reunion if it happenedIzzy is probably string in a mansion with his wife doing what he does. I don't think a reunion will happen if it did the lineup would probably be:
Axl
Slash (or bbf if axl and slash don't get along)
Duff
Steven adler (or matt)
Gilby clark
Yeah if izzy did a reunion it would only be a tour. For example when izzy had a reunion with axl and gnr in 2006 he only played a few shows. He left gnr because it got to popular.
Izzy left GNR cause he couldnt take Axl's shit anymore, he was fed up of Axl coming late to shows and other members being on substances, none of them had the bond cause they were busy with themselves, when Izzy joined for a few shows in 1993, he said that hardly anyone was talking to him and he felt very lonely, but well its the same thing with Axl's band today, all the members are on hired contracts and Axl/TB is the one who makes all the decisions, even the classic line up had problems, but they did live and spent time like a family unlike now, but well Izzy is a strange person, he is in good terms with Axl, Duff and Slash, but well Izzy just does what he wants to do and when he wants to do
I think Axl finally accepted Izzy leaving when he arrived with lawyers demanding $$$ from Axl and the band for money he thought he was owed, Adler did the same, took the band to court. Once these guys started being successful, it became less about a gang of dudes having fun playing music in clubs and then into stadiums and then it became all about the $$$, they all felt they were entitled to a slice of the pie, bigger slice in there drug addled brains.
I do agree with you, when they became big, the communications were through lawyers and managers, Doug Goldstein was a snake in the sleeve who kept on filling crap in Axl's mind, it had nothing to do with Izzy, but im just telling u generally, I dont know if u have seen Goldstein's letter to Axl asking for forgiveness, it was all about the $$$$$
Yes, he left because in 1990 the band became a company basically. By 1995 to be in the band=contract. Now not saying thats bad but somebody like izzy probably does not like that
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Fuck me, I've just vomited.
whats wrong with the tweet
Beta is part of the management team, the same management team that won't release new music or convince Axl to release new music, therefore Beta = devil.
Why not? Axl needs a real women in his life, beta is the real reason this new album has been in production since 2012? and that CD as been since 1999-2008? satan BETA IF YOU READ THS, LET EM MAKE MUSIC!!
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Fuck me, I've just vomited.
whats wrong with the tweet
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in a recent interview, izzy said that he would take part to the reunion if it happenedIzzy is probably string in a mansion with his wife doing what he does. I don't think a reunion will happen if it did the lineup would probably be:
Axl
Slash (or bbf if axl and slash don't get along)
Duff
Steven adler (or matt)
Gilby clark
Yeah if izzy did a reunion it would only be a tour. For example when izzy had a reunion with axl and gnr in 2006 he only played a few shows. He left gnr because it got to popular.
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don't forget ola : he was incredibly talented, without him there would be no gnr.the original (tracii guns, axl, rob, and izzy) just made songs
OH thanks, Im always forgetting someone hahaha.
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Lol. Axl doesn't need them. I really like new guns n roses. I don't have the classic lineup and the second classic lineup but i really do like new gnr
If Axl doesnt needs "them", by "them" if ur referring to the old members who made Appetite and Illusions which made GUNS N' ROSES Famous, then well Axl should stop using the name and just name his band A.X.L
Bitch please, We all know that 80% of those songs where written by izzy, axl, and del james. He doesn't need them now because he already has their replacements, also that lineup made axls life hell, thats why he disappeared from the public for 7 years. The old members just made illusions, the classic made appetite, the original (tracii guns, axl, rob, and izzy) just made songs
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I wrote a song about Axl and Slash:
At first I was afraid, I was petrified
Kept thinkin' I could never sing without you by my side
But then I spent so many nights thinking how you did me wrong
And I grew fat
And I got into techno and rap
And so you're back at 4 am
I just woke up to see you there on my CCTV cam
I should have changed my stupid home
I should have moved to a new hood
If I had known I’d have to face my past like a man should
Go on now go, drive off this road
Just turn around now
'Cause you're not welcome anymore
Weren't you the one who tried to hurt me with the media game?
Did you think I'd crumble?
Did you think I'd give up the GNR name?
Oh no not I, I like to eat pies
Oh, as long as I can play Brazil, I know I'll stay alive
I've got Vegas shows to do
And DJ Ashba’s a buffoon
And I'll survive
I will survive
It took fourteen million dollars not to fall apart
Kept tryin' hard to write an album about my broken heart
And I wrote oh so many songs just feeling sorry for myself
I used to shriek, but now my voice is too damn weak
And you see me, somebody new
I'm not that awesome singer who was in a band with with you
And so you felt like dropping in, “let’s work it out, what the hell”
But now I'm savin' all my lovin' for Beta, Fernando and Del
Go on now, do your Superbowl
Go play with Fergie
'Cause you're not welcome anymore
Weren't you the one who did all those interviews?
Did you think I'd crumble?
Did you think I'd reunite with you?
Oh no not I, I will survive
Oh, as long as I can get new players, I’ll keep touring Appetite
I've got blood boiling and rage
I take hours to get on the stage
And I'll survive
I will survive
Heres two songs about slash that axl wrote:
I won't be told anymore
That I've been brought down in this storm
And left so far out from the shore
That I can't find my way back, my way anymore
No I won't be told anymore
That I've been brought down in this storm
And left so far out from the shore
That I can't find my way back, my way anymore
No, I.. I
Forgive that they teared down my soul
Bless them that they might grow old
Free them so that they may know
That it's never too late
For the many times that seemed like a memory
I searched and found the ways you used to lure me in
I found the ways,
Oh, why it had to be
Mired in denial and so afraid
If we ever find it's true
That we have the strength to choose
Ooo Freedom or the chains
We held together
This songs about axl being so un educated or whats going on in guns n roses and how all his bandmates left him except paul and dizzy and he had to replace every one " I won't be told anymore
That I've been brought down in this storm" is about fans telling him to stop because he isn't popular anymore because of slash leaving, he won't give gnr up. thats why he kept the name
Song 2:
You like to hurt me
You know that you do
You like to think in some way
That it's me and not you
(But we know that isn't true)
You like to have me
Jump and be good
But I don't want to do it
You don't know why I don't act
The way you think I should
You thought they'd make me
Behave and submit
What were you thinking
'Cause I don't forget
You don't know why
I won't give in
To hell with the pressure
I'm not caving in
You know that I got
Under your skin
You sold your soul
But I won't let you win
You talk too much
You say I do
Difference is nobody cares about you
You've got all the answers
You know everything
Why nobody asked you
It's a mystery to me
I'm sorry for you
Not sorry for me
You don't know who in the hell to
Or not to believe
I'm sorry for you
Not sorry for me
You don't know who you can trust now
Or you should believe
You should believe
You don't know who you can trust now
Or you should believe
You close your eyes
All well and good
I'll kick you ass
Like I said that I would
You tell them stories
They'd rather believe
Use and confuse them
They're numb and naпve
The truth is the truth hurts don't you agree
It's harder to live with the truth about you
Than to live with the lies about me
Nobody owes you
Not one god damn thing
You know where to put your
Just shut up and sing
I'm sorry for you
Not sorry for me
You don't know who in the hell to
Or not to believe
I'm sorry for you
Not sorry for me
You chose to hurt those that love you
And not set them free
Not set them free
You chose to hurt those that love you
And not set them free
You don't need
Anybody else to be
Sorry for you
You've got no heart
You can't see
All that you've done for me
I know the reasons
You tear me apart
The meaning of "just shut up and sing" was a quote from slash because axl does rants. "you choose to hurt those who love you" that means you left the band, the fans loved you. You should of not left the band.
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Lol. Axl doesn't need them. I really like new guns n roses. I don't have the classic lineup and the second classic lineup but i really do like new gnr
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Each GNR drummer has a unique skill set. That being said Frank is at the bottom of any list.
I'd bet the outside world probably thinks that Rock In Rio 2011 was the last thing that Axl did publicly.
I think i take back what i say, if there was a list it would probably go like this
1. Steven Adler (brillant drum music)
2. Brain
3. Matt sorum
4. frank ferrer
That being said each one plays appetite for destruction plus songs they wrote so none of them really "suck" but like you said the are all unique in their own way
Axl should pray to die before Adler because otherwise Adler would haunt him with reunion
BTW isn't it the time to send Adler to the island called Reunion? It's near Madagascar. He could find his piece of mind there
Damn no one wants a reunion more than steven. If i were axl i would probably fake my death just so he would stop asking for a reunion. Duff seems pretty cool about it because he does what he wants, just goes and plays with current gnr. Izzy is probably string in a mansion with his wife doing what he does. I don't think a reunion will happen if it did the lineup would probably be:
Axl
Slash (or bbf if axl and slash don't get along)
Duff
Steven adler (or matt)
Gilby clark
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He possibly won't see him again. Axl's said in the past that he "becomes the bad guy" very quickly in Steven's eyes because he won't ever consider a reunion, which is basically everything Steven ever wishes for.
Forget steven. As underrated frank ferrer is, frank is more than capable or playing new songs and alders songs. Reunion won't happen, you are right, thats just want steven wants. apparently axls iq is like really high and he seems pretty smart if he single handedly kept a band alive for over 25 years.
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http://ultimateclassicrock.com/steven-adler-hasnt-seen-axl-rose/
Steven Adler is on record as being in support of a reunion of the classic Guns N’ Roses lineup, but that doesn’t mean he has any special influence over bandleader Axl Rose.
In fact, as Adler admitted during a recent conversation with Eddie Trunk (which you can listen to below), the former GNR drummer has no way of getting in touch with Rose these days. “The whole reunion thing, I would love to do it just because there’s two decades of new fans who’ve never seen what the magic was,” he said. “I would love to be able to show them, but you know, that’s Axl’s call.”
But when the possibility of reaching out to Rose via email was raised, Adler responded, “No, I don’t even have his phone number. I can’t text him. I just say prayers for him; I have no idea what he’s doing. I hope he’s well.”
The former bandmates were last in touch nearly a decade ago — 2006, according to Adler, when he and Rose connected in Las Vegas. “We drank a $3,000 bottle of tequila, we hugged and we made our amends to each other — it was wonderful,” he recalled. “I hadn’t seen him for 15 years before that, so it was really nice just to be in the room with him. I just keep hearing that he has this thing with Slash. I hope not, because it’s too old already. Time goes on, we’re too old. We’ve got to move on. If he has resentments, I hope he doesn’t, that’s all. I love him and I love all those guys.”
Adler has good reason for feeling all those good vibes, too — he shared the best news of the interview when discussing his recently reclaimed sobriety, which suffered a setback in 2013. As of their March 2 conversation, Adler told Trunk, “I have 423 days sober.”
Read More: Steven Adler Hasn't Seen Axl Rose Since 2006 | http://ultimateclassicrock.com/steven-adler-hasnt-seen-axl-rose/?trackback=tsmclip -
Duh, gnr is more than just a band. Its basically a story of axl roses life. Pretty epic music
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How come nobody thought of this one? Easily the best YCBM since the '90's
Why can't he go see his voice trainer again? I think he will because they are doing a new album so he will have it good for the album and some touring soon
Put up a NU GNR You Could Be Mine....against this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3BPH799Js0
Axl was possessed!!
Yes by the cocaine !
Well first of all this is a proshot and the one from 2010 is not, second of all this was when the use your illusion tour was going on so they had to make it as perfect as they could. Like for example, the back round singers from this tour. they were gone in 1994 and never seen with axl again.
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That scream from the start of welcome to the jungle , rock am 2006
Probably the best welcome to the jungle performance since ritz 88
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Yes touring 2011 to may 2014 was weak, didn't suck just not as good as past shows. But vegas 2014 was awesome
True! While I hate the album version of ITW, as an instrumental I really like it.Huh, no love for If the World?
http://youtu.be/XFDXrum9lMs
As instrumental, the song is fine. Axl's vocals and absurdly awful lyrics ruin it. If you turn your brain off and ignore the terribly awful lyrics, the 2010 live version of the song was great.I really like if the world. Axl did say "it meant to suck" I like the live version better though and don't mind lyrics
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I like frank ferrers but thats just me. between these two steven adler.
Steven Adler Has Not Seen Axl Rose Since 2006
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He mentioned in his interview that he has been sober for like 400 days or something, If he were to play with guns n roses, right after mr brownstone, like the 3rd song in the setlist he would be high.