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4 minutes ago, Mendez said:
Brain plays on Sorry on the album. Very likely that he also plays on the leak
Thanks for clarifying! The drumming on the leak still has a much better groove.
Too many layers in general going on in the official version.
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The drumming on I'm Sorry is much better than Frank's CD version.
Listen Frank's 1/8 high hat pattern vs Brain's 1/16 pattern. Brain also throws in open hi hat notes.
Brain's drumming has a lot more soul.The strings in the background and louder echo/reverb effects on the drums give it a Portishead meets Pink Floyd vibe.
Too many layers of Axl on the CD version, too many layers of other things… should've kept it simple and stripped down. Only a guitar accompaniment on the verses is missing from this version. I like the loud synth effects ebbing and flying through the verses as well.
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2001 with the rockers:
Oklahoma
Me & My Elvis
Quick Song
D Tune
Circus Maximus
Prom Violence
Curly Shuffle
The Rebel
Zodiac
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Oklahoma sounds like GNR. Solid track.
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34 minutes ago, RONIN said:
Axl did not know what he wanted..from his music, his band, or his career. Blaming Bob doesn't change that fundamental fact. The leaks we've heard so far reflect this absence of a clear cohesive vision/direction.
Axl and Slash began talking in 2015. They started touring in early 2016. We're nearing the end of 2019. Who will we blame if 2020 rolls by with no new music? Jimmy Iovine? Paul Huge?
Exactly. A solo option was the best.
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Should've just released this as a solo album and it would've been smooth sailing
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All the songs on this version sound way better. There's breathing room and the right elements are more pronounced.
Thanks to the mix, the transitions in Atlas are smoothed out compared to the previous mixes, making it much more coherent.
Best versions of Rhiad, Catcher for sure.
Adding Bumblefoot and more layers were a big mistake. This mix is great
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3 hours ago, ToonGuns said:
Axl should have built the band around Bucket and Brain.
I'm a huge fan of NuGuns, but many of these leaks lack sufficient guitar rifferey.
In the 2000's Bucket was a living riff factory. Axl screaming over that... My word. What a loss. Imagine Buckets' ODB "I like it raw" cover but with Axl.
NuGuns could have kicked some serious ass.
Agreed. They spent too much time polishing turd songs pre-Bucket rather than building the band from Bucket onward.
They should've deleted pre-Bucket rockers such as IRS, Chinese Democracy, Rhiad, etc. Keep some of the Axl ballads and mid-tempo songs
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The opening guitar chord sounds like the same chord from Quick Song at 0:54, but transposed.
Some similarities between Quick Song and Soul Monster
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Soul Monster, Zodiac and Quick Song sound like compositions originating from Buckethead.
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Scrap the previous stuff… should've done albums based on Bucket material… aaaah
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Obviously unfinished. A completed version would be a good release in the mid to late 90s.
This whole period should've been published as an Axl Rose solo project. It would've been successful and well received à la Ozzy or even Foo Fighters. Could've published a lot more music and forged a new path.
Should've called the band Killers n' Kings.
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On 16/9/2019 at 7:25 PM, Gnrfan2001 said:
The beginning is very strong and the first minute or so has a decent singalong but I do not like the key changes or the lyrics much words not much said
Agreed.
1st minute is very strong, then a plate full of copy pasta. That combined with a key change makes for a really jarring transition.
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Keep it at 3 minutes. The length is perfect. A compact mid tempo epic is needed. There are already long enough epics.
If it keeps you wanting more, then it's done its job.
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That instrumental sounds great! Thank you.
UYI need to be reissued:
- Remove extraneous layers of vocals and sound fx.
- Tone done the excess drum reverb
- Trim down locomotive while they're at it. Good song, but it could be great if it were shorter.
- Remove Dizzy's keys from certain songs
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The GnR corporate machine keeps on rolling and trolling!
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The outro on Prositute is similar to Moby.
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2 hours ago, Silent Jay said:
While Anything Could Happen is great, there's not much to compare to Bumblefoot's AoA and Dj's Sixx am. The Madness and We Will Not Go Quietly are successful hits on billboard's charts.
You only need to sell 2000 copies to enter the top 10 Billboard charts.
They are worthless; the music industry is over.
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They're waiting for the AFD 30 tour – they'll use this situation to hype the marketing (Which is already happening).
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1 hour ago, PatrickS77 said:
And again I'm out of likes, but that doesn't mean that I don't like your post. ;-)
The one were he was lying in bed, grabbing that poor chick?
Haha yes that's the one.
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The worst part was that interview with Freeload Pitman in which he said they don't have to release an album because it's not lucrative.
Whatever happened to artistic pursuits? The GnR machine is rolling around in cash; they should release new music without any major financial incentives. You know, like most musicians?
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Axl issues aside for the moment, I'm worried about drums. The older I get and the more music I listen to, the more I've come to understand how important drumming is.
Matt to me, was very consistent. A lot of the time you kinda forgot that he was even there. Which I think for some bands/songs, is actually the most important thing and the sign of a great drummer.
Steven was great too and played the shit out of AFD songs live.
Brain and Ferrer never sound 'right' to me. When I watch nugnr gigs, I keep noticing the drums, but in a negative way.
Agreed.
Matt wrote the intro to YCBM which trumps any drum work on the CD album. It's a memorable signature.
He's consistent as you've pointed out.
You'll notice that Frank can sometimes be off time after watching a few videos where he decides to add his own strokes to songs.
If he was tighter, I wouldn't mind… it spices things up.
It's like Zeppelin – they didn't play their songs note for note all the time or tried to mimic the studio. I prefer some it that way… some improvisation and variation.
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Chris Pitman for his quintessential freeloading prowess.
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State of Grace - Full Leak Discussion Thread **NO LINKS, NO ASKING / HINTING FOR LEAKS**
in GUNS N' ROSES - DISCUSSION & NEWS
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Exactly. The singing suites the song. It shouldn't be any other way. The vocal delivery is perfect.