Drewdown

On 10/16/2018 at 10:48 AM, D.. said:

Do you agree that defending yourself against someone violent (Stephanie) isn't being violent? It's not the same as assaulting. I hope we can agree on that, at leat.

Secondly, I wasn't there, there's no evidence, so I can't judge properly what went on. Neither can any of you. So it's a bit of a pointless debate.

Nonetheless, if you want my opinion: yes, I believe Stephanie is a liar. I have absolutely 0 faith in women who marry men because of their money. I'm sorry to be this blunt but the millionaire (I can't even remember his name) she married... There is no way in hell she fell in love with him. He has nothing going for him except his bank account. She fell for the money. I've seen enough about how some women behave to be 100% sure.

As for Erin, I'm pretty sure she will change her story someday. She doesn't strike me as a bad person. Not like Stephanie anyway. She had Erin back her up to make some cash and counter Axl's accusations and keep the jewelry. That's how low she is. Erin must not be proud about it. Why wait several years to go public about it? We see this kind of bullshit happening over and over with the BS #metoo movement, with false claims and easy money grabs (not saying all of it are lies, but some are).

Finally, had Axl admitted he assaulted Erin, or Stephanie, or both of them, I would quit listening to his music. I'm absolutely not supporting women beaters, even if it's "in the past". Women beaters should be put in jail and make a lot of us men look like shit. I despise those assholes. But, unless I'm proven wrong, Axl isn't one of them.

 

As for Meegan, I'm not sure why she is even mentioned, she didn't date Axl (unless I'm missing something). So her word is worth zero.

I don't want to continue this and beat that dead horse but there is some major truth to this post. Stephanie Seymour married Peter Brant who just happened to be my dad's roommate in college at The University of Colorado. Hearing my dad recall stories of his times spent with Brant paint him in the absolute worst light possible. He was the typical trust funder x1,000. The day they moved into the dorms, my dad was paired with Brant and another guy who remains a dear friend and basically an uncle to me. Upon meeting in their dorm, Brant declared that the dorms were inadequate and went and immediately rented a giant house in Boulder for the three of them. The first week of school, Brant took my dad and roommate to Vegas with a blank check he had stolen from his father. Granted, those are some fun times as a freshman in college in the 60's but it just gets worse from there. From what I have heard, Brant is about as big a womanizer as this world has ever seen. The fact that he had money, allowed him to behave like this. I cannot share more of the stories I have heard but Brant makes Axl sound like Mother Theresa. I am not excusing Axl from what I do or don't know about his time with Stephanie but she was no doubt the definition of a gold digger. Her marriage to Brant was purely for the money and it seems that she has turned many a black eye after marrying him because she was drying her tears with hundred dollar bills. My dad and his friend moved out of the house middle of their second semester because they both agreed they could not be around such a bad person. My dad says he lost count of the number of girls that left the house in tears from either physical or verbal abuse after coming home with Brant from the bars, etc. That's my .02 cents and I hope I am not offending anyone but Seymour sounds like her morals and priorities are in line with some of the worst people on the planet...

Basically your favorite part of Estranged is all of it?! Jajaja, just playing. Well done as usual and as a Stern fan it was funny to hear that Ronnie makes an appearance. Hard to argue that this tune isn’t perfection in so many ways.

"Hello Colorado! Where the grass is green and the band is Guns n Roses!"

My call for the McBob opener line. Or is that too easy?! Can't sleep, can't fucking wait for tonight!! Will be partying in VIP lot C as early as 2:00. Got a solid crew hanging out and beers to share if anyone wants to mosey on over to our tailgate.

Oh so close! Tomorrow can't come soon enough!! Got a healthy hometown squad heading to the show tomorrow.  I would love to get the elusive There was a Time. Saw Vegas and Pittsburgh last year and am just as excited as I was for either of those shows. 

Such a tragedy to lose him so young. As far as any two album band goes and one after the fact, it's a monster catalog. Every song is worthy, no filler. Shannon was too good for this realm.

Someone invite this guy over here to share his story! We could at least hear his gripes and what he has in his pocket.

Can't wait for this! Got pit tix! See y'all there!

I actually said I hope things get better for you. Most hardcore fans are still holding out hope for an AFD reunion and time will tell. In the meantime, lots of people, myself included are enjoying something that didn't seem possible in any fashion a short time ago. Personally, I don't understand spending time criticizing and judging something that I am no longer into along with trying to persuade those that are enjoying it that they are wrong or "missed the boat" on the real thing. I got mine then and I will get after it until it doesn't satisfy and at that point I will move along. Sorry, I was a bit harsh as I am frustrated with reading posts like yours, you just got my vent. I hope somewhere down the road, they find your groove and pull you back in because it's a blast to have enough pieces of the band back for my personal satisfaction to find something I thought was lost.

4 hours ago, ludurigan said:

good for you man

the only possible explanation that i can come up to for you to be able to enjoy this nonsense is that you were probably not old enough to enjoy GNR 1987-1991

you likely got into GNR a bit later. most likely during the 1992 circus era of UYI tour (which was just as much bizarre as this current nonsense, but at least axl could sing back then) or maybe you just got into GNR during the axl solo years 1996-2015

and then its no wonder that this nonsese sounds good to you. cause this is basically axl aliens show with slash and duff making it sound a bit less horrible  

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i just hope that someday we can have GNR back 

then you will be able to see for yourself that this nonsense has nothing to do musically with GNR

Wow, this is one of the most pretentious comments I have seen online in a long time. It blows me away the amount of people that come on here just to bitch. And don't bother me with how it used to be. Yes, they were lightning in a bottle when they hit the scene and it's now 30 years later and things have changed. I don't have a problem if it's not for you right now but to look down your nose on anyone, especially when you are assuming a bunch about when said poster hit the "scene" and happens to enjoy what is happening now makes you sound like a dick. It's music! It's fun and it's completely different for everyone. Looking down on someone for enjoying the current moment makes you look like the beat down. Quit hating and move along. Hopefully you will find something different or things will change in the future to suit your musical needs. 

This topic continues to crack me up. If you don't want to see the show, more room for me to boogie! Saw Vegas x2 and Pitt last year and loved every minute. I am also a huge fan of Widespread Panic, a southern jam band that won't repeat a song for a minimum of 3-5 shows. I have seen them a couple hundred times since 96 all over the country. I wish Guns had the catalog that WSP does but they are also hitting new markets still, with people that want to see the greatest hits with Axl, Slash and Duff. For most of these people it's a dream come true, even without the entire lineup. It was for me. Every band is different and you should educate yourself so you have reasonable expectations for each band and what they do. Last year at this time I could not fathom the fact a childhood dream was going to come true to see the big 3 together. If Panic were to repeat a show, I would be shocked but I'm expecting a fairly similar show this summer when Guns hits Denver and even if it's identical to those from last year, I promise you I will be fucking raging and scaring most of you there with my ninja dance moves. This band can't win. Yes, I would bust in my pants if the OG 5 walked out and hopefully time will heal more wounds but I will be just as happy if the show opens with ISE with Frank, Fortus and so on. I feel like I'm on borrowed time with this band and I will take what I can get. I get the fact fans want to see more of the GnR short but genius catalog live, as do I but at the same time, a year ago, we didn't know if they could pull it off and it could be over as fast as it showed up. The internet and an instant gratification society has ruined a lot of things. And for people to bitch so fierce about something that no one ever saw happening on any level ever again, less than a year into it just makes me laugh. Just keep bitching and moaning but don't come crying when it's over for good. As for me, I will get goosebumps every time I hear the songs that shaped my childhood, live and direct. Yes, I would love more but I'm just so happy now. So quit complaining, bounce from here and don't attend shows so I can steal your dancing room. All the complaining is what's wrong with this world. Entitlement and the me me attitude is lame when we can still find some fun if you drop the ego.

First band that I identified with and we completely obsessed. Still between 1-3. Currently #1

1. GnR

2. Widespread Panic

3. Grateful Dead

Strangely enough, Guns set me up for the jam band route. They are essentially the hard rock jam band.

Putting my Xmas list together and wanted to see what you guys think I should request for my next Guns book? I've read Slash's bio, Duff's bio, Canters book and Watch You Bleed. What am I missing and what's the best whole career book or one with the latest info? Maybe Axl's dark years or the truth about what happened and not some bs take on what "they" thought happened. Thanks in advance!

On July 13, 2016 at 0:38 PM, alfierose said:

Saturday, November 26, 2016

SAN JOSE, CR

Estadio Nacional 

Capacity: 35,100

Opener:

Forum Members Attending:

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On July 18, 2016 at 0:43 AM, Chuerta86 said:

Well, I'm going to this. Costa Rica is my 2nd home.

Any word on ticket onsale date, prices, etc? My brother just moved down to Mal Pais/Santa Teresa and is dating a local tica! She has a penthouse suite in San Jose. Definitely trying to make this show as I will be with the family in Florida for thanksgiving and a ticket to Costa from FL is dirt cheap. Not to mention free lodging, transportation and some of the best surf in the world, I am in! I heard a rumor they didn't have one piece of the puzzle set up for this show and that it's still a "potential" show but I would imagine they would of changed/canceled it if it was going to fall through. Any and all info any of you guys have would be greatly appreciated. Also, a meet up would be sweet as I'm sure we could pre-party att he penthouse if need be!

Anyone hear anything about the Costa Rica date? That it's on the books but no promoter? My brother moved down there a month ago so it's a no brainer as long as it happens. Any inside scoop from anyone? A GnR surf trip in paradise doesn't sound terrible right after thanksgiving!!

1 minute ago, vloors said:

Would probably be crucified here but personally I would prefer less chinese democracy songs and more illusions/appetite/lies songs performed.

 

I hope that you wouldn't be crucified for saying this... I respect the hell out of the bands decision to play more off CD and I think Slash and Duff are playing these tunes because they legitimately want to. With that being said, I would kill for another illusion cut or two instead of another CD bust out. Just my opinion. And I am not hating on anything, honestly. I'm still in the honeymoon phase and I respect anything and everything they want to do right now. The decision to play CD stuff instead of old school cuts I hope means that they want to keep looking and moving forward, right into a new album. Maybe re-release a few of the CD songs with the boys on it. Like I said, I love this band so much right now but would not object to see Locomotive over Madagascar in the near future!

4 minutes ago, MrSoftie said:

Sounded like he was teasing locomotive to me! Fuck I hope so.

I swear I heard the locomotive tease in Pittsburgh. It was short but definitely perked my ears when he played it!

Coming in hot from Denver tomorrow morning! Went to second night in Vegas and had an absolute blast! I cannot wait to see how they have evolved since April! Just can't get enough of all this magic. Raging the pit Slash side. I will be rocking a CU Buffs hat so say what up if you see a tall homey getting the f down! Was hoping to see Adler but now Izzy could be in the mix?! Hell, if either makes an appearance it's just that much better but I have no doubt I will be happier than a kid on Christmas regardless. Being able to see two shows that were never happening in my lifetime is beyond words! Keep the ball rolling in Pittsburg boys!

No way do they cancel. The band is guaranteed their check regardless of sales, merchandise has no doubt already been produced and I just don't see any possible way of this happening. I for one am happy with the slow sales. Just grabbed a Slash side pit ticket for below face! Flying out for the day from Denver! Saw second night of Vegas and can't get enough! Rolling solo. See you freaks there, rain or shine! I'll be the big dude riding the rail in Pit 1 rocking some kind of Colorado gear and possibly pissing a few people off due to my height. I can't help it as I was born this way. I will also be getting down as hard or harder than anyone in there. Please feel free to join me!

Cheers! Drewdown