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What? So they dont want to sell out those huge stadiums they booked?  Oooohh, now i get it. Now it makes sense.  so the fiasko in chicago was succes, because they didnt want to sell it anyway...  

Articles written about this are almost universaly bad and not accurate. Its a shame.  Its a good topic and nobody really covers it enough or at depth. 

And btw. Yes, they probably sell a lot of tickets. But that on its own does not make it a succes in my opinion.  As i said, promoter made a lot of mistakes and the band is, to be honest, greedy. Instead of "lets forget about all that shit and play because we wont be able to do that in a few years and because its fun" we get "lets get 1mil/night each, whereever and let fucking TM figure out how".

I find this topic quite interesting and i of course know that there are many opinions, but i must say i am a little bit surprised how many people compare the pricing problem to, for example, a situation when you get a discount on a doughnut at the end of the day, because it was sitting there for hours and it's kind of Gross. I cant really bring myself to think this is the same thing. 

i can understand the problem. with other bands, you have data, statistics and i think that a lot of thinking goes into setting the ticket price. but gnr is a reunion without new material. you just dont know how people will react. yes, at first theres gonna be hype, its a big thing, still a lot of fans etc., but it is very hard to guess how the situation will evolve. and the first shows are not a good indicator obviously. 

so they didnt quite get the price people are willing to pay. i can understand that. but what i dont understand is the strategy afterwards. people say that it is free market, free capitalistic economy etc. and its nomal that TM is changing prices twice a day. well then we dont need TM, we can have a service where we will auction these things. then you wont get to cencerts that everybody wants, because it will cost you 20k, and some shows will be for five cents. 

what i think is doable is what few bands did and what RHCP are doing right now in europe. they sell personalized tickets. there is a name on the ticket and you present an id. limit is four or six tickets per person. in case of emergency, when you really cant go, it can be sorted out and tickets are passed onto another fan. that is getting closer to be relatively fair.

this way, everybody knows gnr are not a big seller, they are dumping tickets, giving them away, closing sections.. and by that, fucking with people that could not know that it will go from 310 to 100. people bought the tickets this time. next time? no one will believe the hype and nobody will buy the tickets right away. so they have bad data now, and the will have bad data the next time and the will make mistakes again. and that hurts the brand.

and btw. i really am a fan, and the are a really big band. but 3mil a concert as somebody said? for a reunion with incomplete lineup and nothing new? thats rolling stones money. come on. 

if anybody wants to go for 100 bucks to 10th row A4, i still have one ticket

ok, so i am watching the sales for a few days and  i watch second chicago a little bit more, because one of my friends could not go, so i offered my 300 ticket for sale here and on viagogo for 200 a few days back. 

what they´ve been doing the last 2 days is one of the most desperate attempts to fill a stadium i have ever seen. i am sorry, but this is bad for the band. it looks like they will be handing them out on the the streets for free. 

so summary is - the fucked almost every fan, because they buy tickets early, and it looks bad for the band. yea, total fucking succes as many here are trying to say. good for people who could not afford original prices. that just goes to show how badly the prices were set. 

happy for people who could not afford the original price, but to be honest, this is just fucked up. i am a fan, so fuck me in the ass several times, thank you very much. 

i dont really want to debate the number that much, or compare that much. for some, its cheap, for some its not.i dont think you can do it like "hey, stones or whoever want outrageous prices so im gonna ask them too, because its trend".... i am just saying that i expected more sales and lower prices. you can say that other bands are the same. but i dont think so. last summer u2 were cheap, and they had some newer material they played. acdc were cheaper and they have a new album. stones werent unreasonable and every second could be their last. black sabbath are cheaper and they have new material and its their last tour. The Who, last tour and cheaper.. and those are just big gigs. for example jeff beck si playing with buddy guy this summer, smaller venues, but their show in LA hollywood bowl is almost sold out and you can get in for literally few dollars, and its not because they could not ask for more. 

RHCP are now in europe until fall, and then they will probably tour the new album in the us. and im sure they will be cheaper too, and btw, they are giving their new album with the ticket. and not just a download, but physical copy if you want. 

gnr are great, a lot of people are excited to see them, but come on. if they released some new songs, maybe. 

hey, we are all fans here and wish the best for the band, but to say how it is a tremendous success and how the sales could not be better and how the prices are justified... i am a fan, but i am also a realist.  and one more thing. what i certainly dont appreciate is being fucked with the prices. i work, i dont have all time in the world and when i buy tickets for a concert, i dont want to speculate. and i dont like buying 300 tickets to a stadium show, only to find out that a bloke next to me bought his the day of the show for 120, and we both bought them from TM. i dont care that they fucked up and expected better sales. move people that already bought tickets, but they should stop fucking with capacity and prices so much. 

there are tons of tickets under face value for almost every show on Viagogo and Stubhub. often even in front of the stage. scalpers are probably not happy with this tour 

second show in chicago you can get in for 25, and there is a chance you will end up in much better seats, because they will move you, so the stadium doesnt look so sad, silent and empty.

i think they miscalculated, and that they definitely underestimated promotion. instead of using the shows axl did with acdc as promo, they were silent and just confused regular people. regular people that would go for a few bucks with friends. but this way, if you are not lookng for it, you dont get any info and if you look as a casual fan and you see the prices... 

gnr are not The rolling stones, that wanted 800 with fees for floor and lover level in vegas, and they sold it very, very quickly. but thats stones and vegas. and they do promotion very well. like last year in the us? they started teasing with billboards, no info, just hinting billboards, speculation, hype, secret shows, people queing in front of random venues in case they show up, news coverage...  nicely done. lucky dip tickets for every show, expensive front seats of course, but otherwise affordable.

also, The who are playing santa barbara bowl in october around the desesrt trip. very nice venue for 4500 people. so very small, its their last tour etc, and they wanted 355 for first nine rows and 204 after that. sou you can have 10th row for 204. and you can get in for 64.

you can do a money grab, or you can play for as many people as possible. but gnr want to do both without no new music, no hype, and on huge stadiums. dont know if its bold or stupid.

its a reunion. they didnt play together for ages, why not do smaller shows for really big fans, get in the news and social media and build it from there? this is nonsense. 

I have one spare ticket for Chicago Jul3, friend had to cancel

A4, row 10, seat 18

still 250 plus fees on TM (I paid 280)

looking for 200

and btw., most people look for tickets on secondary market on stubhub in the US, but try also viagogo, there are some good deals way under face value.

I have one for this, friend had to cancel

A4, row 10, seat 18          still 250 plus fees on TM

i can go 200, or we can debate this in pm