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15 minutes ago, BucketEgg said:

havent been able to identify anything interesting or fun

the bottom left "???" icon might just be the reminders app

 

App between photos and App Store is Discord, I'm pretty sure.

Interestingly the BBC said the mix at the show was significantly better vocally than the TV mix. 

This is a triumph. 

5 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Yes, I'm also convinced that these tracks are in the system in some way (even if only as metadata) and the connection between them and GN'R is not a result of an algorithmic reaction to searches, listening habits, local playlists, web content crawling, etc.

Of course, whether they get released is a totally different matter.

Agreed. The actual tracks will likely have been submitted to a licensing database with titles.

It's unlikely that Spotify will have access to the actual audio files until they're due to be released. But they will have all the meta data and probably things like checksums for verification. 

I'd suspect whatever systems catch copyright violations will also have the full tracks, or at least all the data they require to audio match them to content online.

Could mean an upcoming release, could also not, as you say.

Just now, StrangerInThisTown said:

So what, my friend is in a band who also publishes his music on Spotify. And he also knows jackshit about this because it's simply a platform to get your music out.

Okay, dickhead.

I've worked in digital technologies and web infrastructure for 15 years. My dad's worked in web database creation for 30+ years, and runs an web technologies business as well as being a musician.

I don't really give two shits if your friend plays guitar. I do have a vague understanding of algorithmic technologies across platforms, and how they interconnect.

9 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

How is that in any way connected? No one can upload a song with artist name Guns N Roses lol, the meta data has nothing to do with that, because you have to upload it from the GNR account to publish it as GNR songs. This explanation makes no sense to me.

And secondly, not sure how someone who uploads his music on Spotify is in any way knowledgeable or qualified to comment on this anyway lol, not like they are being "briefed" on any of the inner workings like an employee, they just put their songs there and then people can stream it.

With regards your second point, they don't need to upload directly to Spotify if they're publishing through a third-party which handles the submissions to licensing databases and other platforms. That's how artists push out to platforms like Spotify, Apple Music, etc., and how their music becomes available for monetisation on social networks nationwide.

Spotify have/get the licensing information without anyone submitting tracks directly to them.

This licensing information thing has been around for decades. I remember the Chinese Democracy licensing information in 2008 before the album was released. 

1 minute ago, Jw224 said:

This person does not have any more knowledge than the rest of us when it comes to how Spotify works in the back end. 

My dad is a published singer-songwriter on Spotify and numerous other platforms. I'm repeating what he's told me.

11 minutes ago, jamillos said:

But isn't that what copyright is for? E.g. no one else can upload a song on Spotify under the name of Guns N' Roses? Why would they need to preempt that with metadata? Just asking, I don't know jack about this. 

Think of it this way.

Spotify allows musicians to upload their music, and that music is cross referenced and checked with the licensing databases etc.

That's fine.

Now think of YouTube, where anyone could upload a video under any name. You see "Copyright claim by Universal Music LLC or something" as soon as you upload that, because the track itself is identified in the database immediately.

I'd assume having to upload files with titles to the database stops musicians from just copyrighting any random audio segment they want, but it's frequently done for copyright control. You can upload music and then set a publish date of 100 years in the future. But if that file did get out online at any point, even if the artist didn't intend to release it, they can have it pulled down or at least monetise it.

These licensing databases power a lot more than Spotify. They power TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, all sorts.

And there's plenty of music submission sites that allow artists to submit onto these databases.

More pertinent question would be, why would you not upload the tracks if they're finished? Even if you don't want to release them yet.

1 minute ago, jamillos said:

May well be, but there are loads of tracks with the same title - it's inevitable. 

Title & meta data combo, so title, length, artist name etc.

Doesn't block any musician from uploading a song called "Oh My God" for example.

5 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Of course it does, probably also for "Every Rose Has Its Thorn". These songs have been mistaken for GN'R songs by thousands of people for years, so  many must have searched the title along with "Guns N' Roses". Plus, Spotify probably considers GN'R as a related artist to these bands.

In which case, if they've changed their algorithm in some way, the same could apply to these GnR demo titles?

Not to pour water on the fire, but GnR also comes up if you search "Cats in the Cradle".

Can't find this?!