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It's very simple. In America if you head to a bar that has 2 or 3 bands on a Friday or Saturday night, the headliner starts around 11:30 and plays until 2am (about the time of last-call). Axl likes this schedule. I'm not an Axl appologist by any means. I went to the RnR HOF Ceremony and I think it was a dick-move for him to not attend. But Axl doesn't care that your priorities have changed over time. He doesn't care that you got a baby-sitter. He doesn't care that you haven't thought about how you are getting home after the metro shuts down. He doesn't care that you have a meeting at 8am. It's not an accident that the show goes late. He wants to give his best performance and obviously he thinks that by keeping to this schedule, he can do just that.

I do however think the opener's start time as well as headliner's start time should be advertised and noted on the ticket stub.

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"Watch out for the Po-Po!" - good stuff!

I don't understand why some people eat up whatever Slash says like it was the truth. Marc Cantor says Slash lies go look cool.

Of course Slash knew Myles was going to sing at the HOF. It was planned. It wasn't like Slash phoned Myles at the last minute to sing some GN'R songs like so many of you believe. They've had this planned for weeks, months even.

So they had this planned for weeks/months? How would they have done this when they thought Axl was coming until 3 days before the event? And for the last time Duff has said he was the one that approached Myles.

Link please? Not that I don't believe you and I don't care enough to argue about the subject, but the only one I have read saying anything about Duff calling Myles is Slash.

Myles was also booked for the Eddie Trunk show and had to cancel last minute to do the HOF show. Duff approached Myles about it at The Golden Gods Awards the Wednesday before the induction, the same day Axl bowed out. Myles himself said this when he did the Eddie Trunk show a few days after the HOF show. Myles said it was the other guys, not Slash, that encouraged it. Here's a transcript of the interview that someone posted over on HTGTH:

Myles Kennedy was interviewed on April 20th by Eddie Trunk on Q104.3 in NYC. Thanks to agphl at the Alter Bridge forum for the recap:

Rough notes of Eddie's show - better to listen yourself if you can of course!

RNR HOF

Eddie intro - Myles was supposed to be on last week, but was called in to do “emergency duty” at RnR HoF.

Myles – “I feel great”, “I felt terrible about that” (having to cancel) - real last minute, apologize

Eddie - how did that come about and how did you feel about it?

Myles - Wed evening at Golden Gods when Duff first brought it up, I thought he was kidding at first, pretty overwhelming to say the least

sleepless night contemplating it, as much of a fan of GnR as I am, seemed daunting, grateful for chance

less than 48 hours when decision made, very spontaneous

Eddie – slash said other guys encouraged it, is that accurate?

Myles – yes that is accurate, did not come from him initially; flattered is understatement

Thought Slash handled it all well – Slash keeps his cards so close to his chest, I didn’t realize how stressed Slash was running up to it

Eddie – as good as it was going to get. How was decision on three songs made?

Myles - that happened night before when we got together to all play together, for me, they were songs I knew from touring with Slash – I have such a horrible memory that learning lyrics last minute would have been hard (laughing)

Eddie - did you have apprehension given GnR fanbase?

Myles - absolutely, yeah, one of biggest concerns, felt like I could be walking into a hornet’s nest, not an immediate decision, spent about 48 hours doing soul searching

Eddie – people who saw it who didn’t know Myles well were impressed

Myles - As a fan, part of me hoped deep down that rest of band would show up that night, would have loved to see them all play together again. Axl is one of most incredible frontmen ever

Wow, I have cell phone videos of my drunken ass in a back stairwell at HOB in Cleveland while they were going through that practice. One video you can hear ISE and in the other you can hear PC. One of the doors I stoped at had to be just at the side of the stage because the sound was so loud. Wish one of those doors would have opened.

I pretty much believe the Slash statement that even up until a few days before, they did not think they were going to play. I believe that is why Green Day was there. I know Billie Joe has said they didn't want to play GnR songs because they wouldn't do them justice, but that is the only logical reason for them to be there.

1st - Green Day opening the show with Letterbomb made no sense. Seemed like the Rock Hall throwing them a bone for hanging in the there until the last minute not knowing what would go down.

2nd - There was no need for Tre Cool and Mike Dirnt to be in attendance and on stage for Billie's induction speech.

They know that it would be all up to Axl if they would play together and they were just waiting on the olive branch from him. As soon as he officially bowed out, the calls started.

I'm sorry, I always try to be a "glass is half full" type of person in most everything I do but when it comes to GnR, it has become very difficult. Until we see an album on an official release schedule, what makes anyone think new material is coming "soon"? Just because recording has happened, does anyone think Axl won't tinker with it for, possibly, years to come?

If they can keep touring with the same material year after year and people keep showing up, what's the hurry?

I prepared a huge response to this thread and then realized we were dealing with a noob. The youngster just needs to live a little an he'll realize his post was clueless. Current GnR rocks but you used a terrible example to even start your point.

Hey everyone. What an incredible weekend. I'm about to turn 40 and I have not partied that much over a two-day span in quite sometime. I gave my Friday wrap-up earlier and now here is my Saturday one.

I started the night with cocktails with friends at the Treehouse in Cleveland's trendy Tremont neighborhood around 5pm. Headed downtown and was at the Clevelander by 6 for dinner. Just before 7 I walked over to Public Hall. I had an Obstructed View ticket to the ceremony and wanted to know what tickets were going for. The first person that hit me up asked what I wanted and I said $100. He immediately offered $80 and I said no and started to walk away. He then offered $100 and I told him I would probably be back to see him. A little bit further down the street I was hit up again and this time I said $200, this guy immediately countered with $150. What was a bit weird was that once I got to the front of Public Hall, they were only offering $20 for my ticket - apparently the market had not been straightened out yet. Once inside I headed to my seat which wasn't bad at all, above and left of the stage. This view allowed for some great people watching below.

I could see LL Cool J and his table, Chris Rock and Bette Midler at a table together, Matt Pinfield shaking as many hands as he could find, Myles sitting at GnR's table and Kid Rock and George Clinton getting the most pictures taken.

My highlights from the show were Green Day's punch in the mouth that was Letterbomb, Small Faces performance of Stay With Me, Darlene Love's performance, Green Day's GnR introduction, GnR's speeches and performance, Chris Rock's RHCP introduction and RHCP's performance.

I was very happy to see how professional Gun's handled their speeches and how well their performance went over. Seeing Slash play the SCOM solo was the absolute high point of the weekend.

After the weirdness that was the Higher Ground performance, I headed over to the House of Blues to see if anything was happening. Apparently this was where all the VIPs were after-partying. Your $3000 ticket got you a wristband for the ceremony and got you entry to HOB. I waited about 15 minutes or so and the first person I saw leaving, I asked if I could get their wristband. It broke as he tried to take it off, but I McGyvered it with a metal key ring and went right in. Open bar and Grand Master Flash was DJing. Drinks were served until 2:30 and GMF spun until 3am. This was a great conclusion to an unbelievable weekend. I'm so thankful the wife let me off the leash for a few days - I'm gonna have to get her something.

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Dane, where are u @ now?

'Stalker much?' - that is awesome! I thought the same thing after I typed it and re-read it. Luckily for everyone, I was just looking for a party.

Wow, last night was great. The show was amazing and the crowd was great. When the show ended we snuck into the meet and greet line but since we did not have the big sticker everyone had to where, we were quickly bounced. Instead of exiting we headed to the balcony that hadn't cleared yet. We noticed a group in a private box that were not moving. We headed there and introduced ourselves as part of the ownership group of The Beachland Ballroom (another venue in the city) which we are not and they were happy to let us hang with them. Before long the group was told we had to leave, but just from that room. We headed to the Foundation Room which is not the backstage bar but more like the high roller-private member bar where drinks continued to flow. Met and hung out with Chad Zumach (local radio personality), Jim Florentine (That Metal Show) and comedian Bobby Slayton. Had a very cool discussion about Axl with Florentine. Around 1:45 we ushered to the doors. Took the elevator down with Florentine and Chad hoping the party was moving elsewhereN but they had been partying and doing comedy shows around town for a few days and were calling it a night.

We then headed to the rear entrance where fans were assembled to hopefully meet people as they exited. You could hear music jamming inside so there was definitely some practicing happening. I made it back into the venue in a staircase but couldn't find an unlocked door. Heard them play It's So Easy. Headed back out to wait with the other fans and eventually people started coming out. Security kept us separated and no autographs or pictures were had.

I could see the cars were headed to the Ritz so I headed there on foot. When I got there I just acted like I was staying there and hit the elevator button to go up. Obviously I picked the top floor. Alas there were no crazy parties or any noise for that matter. This began a series of random up and downs on elevators an staircases until I found myself in a back corridor where the kitchens were. As I turned a corner I was passed by a security person, a lady and a guy that took a second to realize was Slash with his hair back in a ponytail. I allowed them to turn a corner before following. Just as I turned that corner, the elevator closed. I watched it go to the 9th floor which I then proceeded to. Again, not sure what I was expecting, but only hear noise from a few rooms. At that point I decided to call it a night. It was 3:30 and I have to do it again tonight.

I'm about to head downtown again. My seat isn't great, but just glad I'll be in the venue. I'll keep tweeting if anyone is interested.

I'll be tweeting from Duff's show tonight and from the induction ceremony tomorrow night in case anyone wants updates. I did just sign up for Twitter so we'll see how this goes.

You can follow me @Cerno23.

I am certainly hoping for the best, but if I had to put money on it, I'd bet the entire band will be seated at the tables in the audience while Axl is sequestered in a room backstage. They get inducted, everybody gathers on stage and hugs, brief statements by everyone. The rest of the band then sticks around to jam while Axl high-tails it outta there.

Again, this is NOT what I want to happen.

The article includes the bio of the band Guns N Roses which is why CD is mentioned.

Our Youngstown tickets have a start time of 8pm. It sounds like Guns are avg an 11pm start time so what would be best guess for Black Label Society to hit the stage, 8:30? When were other openers taking the stage at other U.S. stops?

Just trying to figure out how long pre-game festivities can go at the local watering hole before heading over.

Thanks for your help.

What time is everyone headed to BW3??

If Guns are averaging an 11pm start time and tickets say 8pm, is it safe to say BLS will hit the starge around 8:30? I will start another thread to ask about average start times for openers. But if 8:30 sounds right then my son and I will probably hit BW3 near 5pm I would guess.

What code?

LD74 - When purchasing tickets on Live Nation/Ticketmaster's site, there is now a Holiday Promotion code that can be entered for a 20-50% discount on tickets. The code is TMNHD. When I used this code I got 2 of the cheapest tickets for an after-tax and service charge total of $81 (not that we'll actually be sitting in those seats, mind you). I sorta feel bad for people that purchased at full price, but after I saw the Miami Groupon deal I decided to hold out and this time it worked.

Youngstown as well - Cheers!

A two week holiday promotion started today for many of Ticketmaster handled shows including some (not sure if all) GnR shows. The sale runs through December 4th and when you buy tickets, if the Holiday promotion selection is available use code TMNHD. I just saved over $40 on two tickets to Youngstown.

The other Youngstown thread is burried 10 pages deep at this point which makes me concerned about interest in this particular stop on the tour. Wish this show was in Cleveland as the turnout would for sure be larger, but oh well.

Bringing my 18 year old son to his first GnR show and Black Label just puts this one over the top.

I did some Google Mapping and Mapquesting and there really is nothing next door to the Covelli but there is stuff within a few blocks. It looks like either a BW3 (Buffalo Wild Wings) or a place called Barleys Pub (not a Barley House) which looks to be a live music joint are the real choices. A littel bit further away is the Downtown Draft House.

Perhaps there are some Youngstownites (or Youngstowners?) on here that can provide some background on these places. If not we'll probably just head to BW3 as it looks closest and we love their wings. It would be nice to have a little meetup if possible.

2 More Weeks!

So looks like we are getting Black Label Society. Pretty pumped for that.

Where is the place to get our drink on close to Covelli?

Great logical post!

There's nothing logical about it, he's basically just saying that to be a true fan of the band you need to be willing to bend over and grab your ankles.

no what they are saying is since its been going on since the 1980's fans who know the band should know this and expect it instead of making the 50 threads as to why it happens just except it happens or dont go

A true fan doesn't consider having to wait 2 hours so Axl can be in his 'right place' so he can put on his best show, much of a big deal. Nor do I feel like I'm bending over and taking one. If this is such a big deal, make sure you bring a box of Kleenex and a fresh tampon next time.

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Cheers!

Wow, good comeback. I'll go feel sad now because someone hiding behind their computer insulted me.

I cannot believe this discussion still comes up.

Axl is never late for any shows. If you go to the bar to see a couple of bands, the first one plays from 9 until 10 and the headliner plays from 11 until close (2am or so). This is the schedule he has kept since they became the headliner. Why is this so difficult to understand and accept? If the ticket says 8pm, that means 'stuff' starts around 8pm, it doesn't mean GnR starts at 8pm. The only time they go on earlier is because of stupid curfew in some podunk cities and most of the time Axl chooses to ignore those and pay whatever fines. Yes he has to get his pipes ready and yes he could start getting his pipes ready earlier, but that is not the reason they start late.

I love getting to a show and standing in the crowd between 8pm and 11:30pm and finding the people that are not hardcore fans and betting them that Guns won't take the stage until after 11:20pm. Wow, does it piss some off.

If he tookt he stage within an hour or less after the wramup band left the stage you would have a point but I waited through several hour waits during the UYI and the couple of NuGnR shows I went to..

Going on stage 2+ hours after the warmup band leaves the stage is late mate and NuGnR is not playing in a bar where you have other things to do while waiting...........

1. If you are a real fan and know anything about the band, you know this happens.

2. It's not like it happens occasionally. It happens every show. It's the norm.

3. The show should be considered a night out on the town, not an evening out.

4. I know this is going to happen so I take the next day off. If you know it's gonna happen, you should do the same or you can pay the price at work. It's your choice.

5. That break between sets only builds more suspense. I love it. Go pee, get another drink, meet other fans.

When we buy a ticket we are buying a ticket into Axl's world for the night. We can either accept Axl's rules (which you should know going in) and have a good time, or complain.

Cheers!

I cannot believe this discussion still comes up.

Axl is never late for any shows. If you go to the bar to see a couple of bands, the first one plays from 9 until 10 and the headliner plays from 11 until close (2am or so). This is the schedule he has kept since they became the headliner. Why is this so difficult to understand and accept? If the ticket says 8pm, that means 'stuff' starts around 8pm, it doesn't mean GnR starts at 8pm. The only time they go on earlier is because of stupid curfew in some podunk cities and most of the time Axl chooses to ignore those and pay whatever fines. Yes he has to get his pipes ready and yes he could start getting his pipes ready earlier, but that is not the reason they start late.

I love getting to a show and standing in the crowd between 8pm and 11:30pm and finding the people that are not hardcore fans and betting them that Guns won't take the stage until after 11:20pm. Wow, does it piss some off.