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don't hate any of them, Ashba is the least one i care about though

Most iconic since Keith Richards? I know a lot more iconic guitarist

maybe Kurt and Jack White... that ain't a lot.

Never thought of those two as iconic guitarists..........

Same.

Kurt had his moments... but Jack White? Really?

I'm with you.

Don't think White is that good.

Jack White? I'm not gonna say I hate him but I have deeply dislike him and what he represents. Slash is way more iconic than him. And Kurt isn't iconic as a guitarist, he's iconic as a frontman, as a person. He was "awesome" frontman that happened to play guitar, IMO. Slash is way more iconic as a guitar god. He's one of the most iconic, really. He's up there with Van Halen, Keith Richards, Jimi Hendrix, etc... at least as an icon. People like Slash before they even listen to one of his songs. That's how iconic he is. And cat in the hat? REALLY? just 'cause fit rhymes? He's a fucking SNAKE in the hat! ALWAYS!

i agree..

just show your friends pictures of Jack White, Kurt and Slash and see who they recognize first... same applies to some of the names mentioned before

and the most amazing thing is, he's not just recognizable by pictures.... you listen 2 notes and you know it's him, that requires more talent, to give your guitar your identity... too many copycats and people ripping off Van Halen out there these days...

i got one for free from previous record so...

i doubt it's Axl, it's too long and he didn't say much did he?

"Axl's been making a living out of the GNR name since 1985"

oh yeah and "i won't be back!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N3CRsFzl3c

the guy can sing, never liked this song before but Myles gives it a great touch i love it ever since i heard this version

went to the beach yesterday with 2 friends, they know "Slash from GNR" but they've never been interested in his work after that, after a few beers and couple of listens, they order 2 deluxe copies today.

for me, it keeps growing.

not many of the singers Slash has worked before would be able to pull this song live to save their lives.

probably none nowadays.

Myles sings it with ease

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd4FxQginkg

i've admired his voice since Starlight.

he's just one of those singers, you either hate him or love him, some people find Axl voice irritating, same with Myles.

i'm glad Slash found a consistent singer to play their asses of every night with no setbacks

why would Slash agree to that deal where if they left Axl could continue on with the name, who signed that? who would and why?

Slash answers that question in the Howard Stern interview.

"Axl had a plan to sort of take over the whole sort of Guns N' Roses thing, and we gave up the name and all that kind of stuff and no one really gave a shit cause the premise was if it breaks up then I don't wanna keep doing it, if it breaks up no one cares."

The translation is only Axl thought there was value in continuing to perform under the GNR name, unlike for instance LA Guns where multiple members wanted to retain the name and so now there are two different bands performing under the same LA Guns name.

I think it was a wise decision by Axl to keep the name, because I do believe a portion of the fans who now attend GNR concerts would not do so if Axl was performing solo or if he was part of a band with a different name. Just think about all the younger fans who have attended GNR concerts during the past decade, they can now say they saw the legendary band GNR just like their parents did back in the 80's and early 90's.

it was a smart business decision that ensure financial stability for the rest of his life

it's all about the benjamins baby

I have been to MSL's house and the f4it kids do in fact exist

Well he's certainly one of the f4t kids alright.

of course he's 'one' of them. He OWNS the account. It would be ludicrous to think he doesn't use his own account

Bit slow on the uptake aren't ya?

yeah, after reading the entire thread and seeing everyone argue with MSL (with whom I neither agree nor disagree with), im the slow one

are you MSL? lol

so you're implying what he said is true?.. that'll be even worst, so with all the money and a big mansion he's just spent these last few years trolling on GNR forums, getting 7 pcs in his mansion with some of his friends, to create an "operation" and make up shit to attract attention from a few internet people? that has to be the most miserable thing i've ever read.

i strongly doubt that's true, he's just schizo.

the f4it kids have owned this place for nearly a decade. if i even listed all the MSL stunts you guys have fallen for the server would crash. M is just some rich kid from a famous family that has nothing better to do with his life than pull practical jokes and fuck with people. i dont know how he really got those songs but he probably just bought them.

:rofl-lol: :rofl-lol: i can't stop laughing at this..

apparently MSL just logged off and so did the 7 other pc's attached to the account...

yeah owning a giant house and letting your friends live there DEFINITELY makes you a loser

So if I do things like this I'll get a giant house as well?

that video was recorded within the confines of the mansion, the characters in appareance are his friends......

it's all a big conspiracy to fool member of MYGNRFORUM.....

Jesus where is this going?, i hope mods don't close this honestly :rofl-lol: :rofl-lol:

Why the sausage fest ? Doing dirty things between closed doors ?

failing at saving face!

it's just hillarious really.

You know that it's really easy to find out if your account is shared with 7 different people right?

considering his house has 7 bedrooms and five of us live here and post from the same IP, good luck

Jesus H. Christ there's no stopping you is there?

HAHAHAHAHA this is gooing to be on people's minds for a long time

the f4it kids have owned this place for nearly a decade. if i even listed all the MSL stunts you guys have fallen for the server would crash. M is just some rich kid from a famous family that has nothing better to do with his life than pull practical jokes and fuck with people. i dont know how he really got those songs but he probably just bought them.

Split personality disorder or schizoprenia?

JHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

this is hillarious

he means if anybody cares enough and tries a bit too much to just attemp to criticize someone for "making a living with the stuff from the past" the balance would be more inclined towards Axl. that's all.

Surely no one is going to criticise Axl, as frontman in Guns N' Roses, for playing classic Guns N' Roses songs at Guns N' Roses concerts for Guns N' Roses fans? That is qualitatively different than former Guns N' Roses members playing Guns N' Roses songs during their live sets with their new bands.

the VR example is a very weak argument to prove your point, he didn't quit VR, the band stopped, neither Duff or Matt are trying to continue without him. for all we know they all lost interest and are trying to continue on their own.

My point was just to highlight Slash's modus operandi when band life becomes too complicated: focus on solo career where he can call all shots himself. After quitting GN'R he probably learned that quitting was a bad decision, so this time he just abandoned Velvet Revolver, effectively stopping Duff and Matt from going anywhere with the band (and vetoing any decisions on new vocalists), thus ensuring that he will never be "the former guitarist in VR" and ensuring that he will never be blamed for ruining that band, too.

some don't see it as Guns N' Roses, some see it as Axl and some others playing stuff he wrote with former bandmates. Slash ain't playing ChiDem material, he's playing stuff he wrote with others and out of a 20 song set he plays 4 GNR songs, that's 1/5th of the set.. surely Axl is doing more than that, and he's on his own right of course, but so are Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven.

I have nothing against former members playing songs they helped create. I just found it hilarious that anyone could criticise Axl as the frontman and founding member of Guns N' Roses for playing classic Guns N' Roses songs at Guns N' Roses concerts to Guns N' Roses fans.

Slash loves to play, so does Duff and Matt, if GNR or VR are not going they're not going to sit at home like some lazy bumps just making a living out of the royalties for AFD and UYI. there's no need to remind you Duff, Matt and Slash (current VR former GNR members) have had their solo projects before, even whie being in GNR.

i'm not so sure Slash "learned" quitting GNR was a bad decision, it was actually the best decision he made, even Duff followed him, they love to play and create music, they're not going to be miserable just to sit next to Axl, why would they?, they've been there done that and it's not attractive for them anymore...

You have already pointing out that Slash was able to follow his solo career while still being in Guns N' Roses so hence there was no need for him to quit the band. He could just have done what he is now doing with Velvet Revolver: abandon the ship by focusing on his own selfish solo projects and effectively preventing the other band members from doing any sensible with the band. I am very happy he didn't chose that exact method with Guns N' Roses because I like my GN'R to be a living band with a future, not a stalled project. I feel sorry for Duff and Matt who I am sure has done a lot to appease Slash and make him more interested in continuing with the band, but I am happy for Axl for not having been forced into the same checkmated situation by a selfish person who only cares about his own musical ideas and projects.

no, Slash mentioned in his book that he was told by Geffen that he had to focus on the main band GNR because they had to release an album, afterall Guns was the main gig and for what they knew at the time, they had the right members to continue, not the same scenario as VR...... for whatever reason (no need for details) the GNR album was never completed and Slash felt he was wasting his time, so he left to continue doing what he does, play music.

and there's no need to feel sorry for Duff and Matt, they have their own projects were they call their own shots and all, same as Axl and Izzy and Steven.

also, GNR was a stalled project even after Slash left, so i doubt he had anything to do with that.

GNR after Slash has only released one album.. a few of the people that help create that album are not in the band anymore, so the new guys are not receiving royalties from ChiDem (even if they were, i''m sure it wouldn't be much anyways) so it seems they're touring just to pay the salary to the new members and keep the thing alive, surviving at this point.

i'm sure Slash, Izzy, Duff, Steven or Matt wouldn't like to be in that "band".

he means if anybody cares enough and tries a bit too much to just attemp to criticize someone for "making a living with the stuff from the past" the balance would be more inclined towards Axl. that's all.

Surely no one is going to criticise Axl, as frontman in Guns N' Roses, for playing classic Guns N' Roses songs at Guns N' Roses concerts for Guns N' Roses fans? That is qualitatively different than former Guns N' Roses members playing Guns N' Roses songs during their live sets with their new bands.

the VR example is a very weak argument to prove your point, he didn't quit VR, the band stopped, neither Duff or Matt are trying to continue without him. for all we know they all lost interest and are trying to continue on their own.

My point was just to highlight Slash's modus operandi when band life becomes too complicated: focus on solo career where he can call all shots himself. After quitting GN'R he probably learned that quitting was a bad decision, so this time he just abandoned Velvet Revolver, effectively stopping Duff and Matt from going anywhere with the band (and vetoing any decisions on new vocalists), thus ensuring that he will never be "the former guitarist in VR" and ensuring that he will never be blamed for ruining that band, too.

some don't see it as Guns N' Roses, some see it as Axl and some others playing stuff he wrote with former bandmates. Slash ain't playing ChiDem material, he's playing stuff he wrote with others and out of a 20 song set he plays 4 GNR songs, that's 1/5th of the set.. surely Axl is doing more than that, and he's on his own right of course, but so are Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven.

Slash loves to play, so does Duff and Matt, if GNR or VR are not going they're not going to sit at home like some lazy bumps just making a living out of the royalties for AFD and UYI. there's no need to remind you Duff, Matt and Slash (current VR former GNR members) have had their solo projects before, even whie being in GNR.

i'm not so sure Slash "learned" quitting GNR was a bad decision, it was actually the best decision he made, even Duff followed him, they love to play and create music, they're not going to be miserable just to sit next to Axl, why would they?, they've been there done that and it's not attractive for them anymore...

i'm not saying people should attack axl, but that is one of the worst comparisons you could have possibly made. if slash were the one touring as guns n' roses with a different lineup then it would be apt. in this case, whether he deserves the criticism or not, whatever criticism there is does deserve to be on axl because he's the gn'r singer who's touring without the gn'r guitarist - for comparison's sake.

What? I am sure I misunderstand you, but it seems like you are saying that Axl deserves criticism because he is not any longer touring with "the GN'R guitarist" (=Slash). What did you really mean?

As we all know, Axl is not touring with many FORMER GN'R guitarists (Tracii, Bucket, Paul, etc), but that is not a genuine source of criticism, it is just how bands evolve. Some band members quit while some have the strength to continue. If anyone should be criticised for Axl and Slash not being in the same band anymore, it should be Slash for giving up on GN'R and favouring his own solo career -- just like he now has with Velvet Revolver -- rather than resolve the differences with Axl. I am not saying Axl is an easy man to work with, but if quitting is your solution then you have given away any chance to complain about what happens with the band afterwards.

he means if anybody cares enough and tries a bit too much to just attemp to criticize someone for "making a living with the stuff from the past" the balance would be more inclined towards Axl. that's all.

and just for the record, Slash quit GNR, but i've never heard him complain about the state of the band after he left.

the VR example is a very weak argument to prove your point, he didn't quit VR, the band stopped, neither Duff or Matt are trying to continue without him. for all we know they all lost interest and are trying to continue on their own.

interaction at it's finest, nice!

So you have no evidence to conclude that was Izzy's reduced percentage was allocated to the remaining members equally, pro-rata, or any other fitting allocation method but you made that conclusion anyway?

I made no conclusion whatsoever, only that the rest of the partnership would be entitled to that revenue and would have had to agree on how it would be split. It would have been impossible for Axl to make any changes on his own. If Axl, Slash and Duff felt Izzy wasn't working as hard on tour and shouldn't be paid as much as the rest, so be it. I'm not saying I agree or disagree. All I'm saying is that any change would have had to have been a group decision. Axl was not the only one that complained about Izzy at that time. Slash was vocal about it as well. Not sure if Duff gave a shit, but again, the three of them would have had to agree on any change.

but remember they kicked Adler, they got new management, a new record, the contract that they had for AFD had to be modified, Axl saw the opportunity to modify Izzy's status in the band without touching Slash's or Duff clauses... you could say he was "negotiating" with Izzy his share/status in the band

Some of the songs some of you want to cut are some of my favotites...I love "We Will Roam" as it has a great hook and groove to it........

me and you both..

slash needs to work with songwriters, not just dudes who can jam well together.

It's the same approach he's always taken to making music, from GNR thru the Snakepits, to VR, to now. It's a little late in the game to be changing approach, besides if you start chasing the brass ring you already lost. It's better to play/write what you like, what you want, and if it connects with people great, and if it doesn't, it still gives you a reason to tour.

izzy was a songwriter. not a great singer or guitarist. but a songwriter. he should hang out with mick and keith and write some songs. or do one with tom petty. or dave grohl even. or work with some pros. nothing about pride as far as i'm concerned. i just want some decent hooks, a catchy chorus, and some heart. listening this album, i get the feeling slash doesn't care about anything but the riffs and qualities of the vocalist's voice. boring to me.

he's not releasing the same thing over and over thou, Izzy, out of his 10 or so cd's he has released after GNR, probably only Like A Dog sounds different, Slash keeps exploring different routes despite staying in the same genre...

some like Snakepit, some like VR, some Like his previous album, some like this one, the reason no other than the diversity in the albums, despite the fact he plays the same genre and been sticking to it for a while.

i don't know exactly what you mean by working with songwriters, i'm glad he keeps things interestig and writes different tunes on different albums

I'll believe Slash is obsessed with Axl when they start banning red bandanas at Slash concerts.

HA!

it's just too dificult for some to comprehend.

I hope I did this right. If not, my apologies....

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You did it right. This is fuckin fantastic! Quality looks amazing and the sound is awesome. So happy someone was able to accomplish this. Thanks so much!

Whew! Glad it worked!! I'm glad to share whenever I have something worth sharing

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So answer the question then. I didn't say you can't justify it. I'm asking you how you do. Why do you refuse to answer?

do you really care?

you're insisting on keeping the thread negative, these are the types of users that should be banned from here.