karlossacanell

would you sleep outside the music stores or shops the night before chinese democracy comes out as 14 years ago with the illusions? i usually read this board and i participate, i think most of topics are ok, but maybe we repeat too much due to not to have news from the tour was cancelled. I think this is a interesting topic, i´m from spain, and maybe not to sleep but if my nearest music store opens at 9 o´clock i´ll be there one hour before at least, can you imagine seven years waiting for the album and the day it comes out you can´t buy it cause it´s finished? i take my life away LOL (joke).

do you think in the usa people will repeat that action 14 years later ...?

Another interesting topic i´ve been thinking of sometimes is that i guess guns and roses is more valorated, more important in the rest of the world than in the usa. a world or european tour without album in ten years, with the new band and without the old guys etc i think it would have been more sold in the rest of the world than in the usa, i think in spain when they were coming two years ago just before buckethead fell ill it was almost sold out and still left several months for the concert. don´t tell me MSG or chicago or another sold out or almost sold out venues ... cause they have sold out two or three shows of 15 more or less in the usa.

what do you think about all these... sleeping in the stores the night before and the deepest devotion in the world than in the usa.

thanx guys

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i´ve payed for albany show tape in ebay, i´ve not received yet cause i´m from europe, maybe this week i´ll get it. i buy it to tim moret, have you watched it? how is the quality of image and sound? what about the whole concert?

thanx

i´m from spain and you?

what do you say about axl will be forgiven by everybody? hahahaha lol ...

slash already said it a few days ago, vancouver was planned by axl ... and i keep thinking this too. maybe the consecuences aren´t calculated by axl but all this i think is good for axl.... bad posts, people damning him... and all of these people damning axl will go to the next concert he plans to play ... you will see...

so it was ten years ago, so it´s now ... guns and roses without cancelled concerts? guns and roses without a relationship HATE-LOVE with fans? guns and roses without bad post saying axl is a bullshit, he behaves as a mad man etc etc...?

I´m not american, i write from europe, and sorry but i cheer up of all this cause i think the cd will be out sooner, now guns and roses-axl rose is in the mouth of everyone in america and also europe ... do you know any better publicity and promotion?

up on a time someone said "never mind what people talks about you, the important is that they are talking about you"

Masterplan ...

we only can wait until they do an statement, i don´t think poor sales is the reason, cause they don´t promote too much this tour, and also they don´t have new songs out ... i guess promoters of the tour aren´t so stupid to think all the venues would be fullllll and sold out ...

maybe the philly thing was part of his masterplan which it takes a lot of sense for all this, but the the damage of this was not calculated and now we don´t have tour ...

and to finish, any of you say axl is not a good businessman, only a great player... do you think guns and roses was and is the most controversial band ever because axl is a bad boy? no, it was and is cause axl know how to sell his image of bad boy ....

MASTERPLAN is out there ... how will finish?

axl health problems, not more sold out concerts, the manage of the venues don´t want axl to play in their venues, less economic benefits than expected...

and another question, what do you think it will happen from now? IS THIS THE END OF GUNS, they will go to europe again to cancel all the dates again, they will delay the release date of chinese democracy... lol

i keep thinking everything is planed by MR. business uncle Axl.

what you have to say about this? :

Maybe you are not agree with this but i think this is what´s happening.

Axl wanted to check if people is still interested in guns and roses ten years later with this tour. No cds nor new music in ten years and they do a tour... and do you think the money is the first thing they are interested? come on ...

They wanted to be in first line of battle again, and they get it, i´m spanish, vancouver riots appeared in every news programe. they´ve had mtv interviews, wall street journal posts, good and bad reviews, the mtv video awards thing, london-boston-new york sold outs concerts. very good atendances for a no cd in ten years band. Is it casual vancouver and philadelphia cancellations were almost sold out atendances?

I really think everything is happening is axl marketing, riots, bad reviews and good reviews (polemic, controversial). And now they have what they wanted (in MSG he said "this band really needed this"). You friends talk a lot about no insurance company will want to assure guns and roses concerts now... Axl want to be again the most dangerous band ever ... once again ... and all of you are crying and damning axl?

He has want he wants ... he is more clever than most of us i think ... if the tour is finished is because he wants, if the tour keeps in road is because he decides it in that way ... ALL IS UNDER HIS CONTROL, EVEN US ...

Welcome to the Axl´s jungle ... time to adore ...

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