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Thanks for this pic. I wanted to share something for a while, but lacked solid proof: left side and main stage are up as you can see, the right side (big screen) are gone. I think if they remove the junk, gig is doable tomorrow.

According to sources at the bands hotel in Rio, there won't be a show on the 15th.

The crew is leaving for Porto Alegre in the morning.

Theres still no word about a later date in Rio. The promoters will probably confirm it tomorrow.

you have a source at the hotel?

I'm sure he was reading the follow-ups and left without giving us an answer. Damn.

Very sad to hear that the venue got trashed by heavy winds. I seen some people questioning how... Well, I do audio/video rigging and staging. I can tell you this. The stage, temporoary or permanent, is built well. What happens is the rain soaked ground gets soft and the support braces under the main stage, begin to bowe (bend) causing a lot of tension on the braces, other supports, scaffolding etc. All this shit weighs a ton. Then when the wind catches the structure, down it goes. Picture a house, with a basement. If ya have any crumbling support, it will bring down the house, literally. If the basement is built with a solid foundation, under the concrete. It is rock solid. Sounds pretty childish to explain it like this but it is the case. If it was indeed a tornado, then anyone can tell you, the venue got lucky. I remember the concert in Calgary with couuntry artist Tim McGraw. A small tornado ripped through that area and tore the staging to pieces.

I would assume, if there is a re-scheduled show tomorrow night. GNR will indeed be using the Brasilia/Belo Horizonte/Alegre stage. Smaller but it is easy to setup and there shouldn't be any damage to it, if it was in storage. That small stage can be built in a few hours vs. the full show stage that takes 9+ hours from ground to rigging.

Again,

Glad 2 hear everyone is safe. Hope the fans don't hold this against Axl and GNR. It's one of the downsides of an "open air" stadium. Would have been a killer show. From what I've read, fans seem to be quietly disgressing about the show cancellation. Probably quite thankful they weren't in there when this happened. If fans were in the venue. It's almost a certainty that there would be fatalites.

Props to all of the rescue workers who evacuated quickly and got the place under control.

And give it up to Axl, for personally tweeting out the message to his fans instead of a sign at the gate.

Let's hope for another show tomorrow!

Best post on this thread so far, thanks!

Back at home, read everything from my smartphone. I've managed to get really close to the venue under heavy rain but came back after Axl's first tweet.

Axl's second tweet still leaves tomorrow as a possibility. Any more word on that yet?

I'm leaving home to the concert now. There's a huge chance the gig will happen under some rain. Cheers!

How's the venue right now? I'm planning to leave home in about an hour.

He was also in Belo Horizonte and Axl ack'ed his presence before calling Dizzy Reed for his solo.

Rolling Stones and Folha de Sao Paulo are reliable sources IMO !

I was talking about and quoted you on your translation of an article from IG.COM.BR (Vivi Mascarano) not RS or Folha de Sao Paulo.

Vivi Mascarano!

Axl Rose: private party at the hotel and hole Disc

The lead singer of Guns N 'Roses, Axl Rose, did not touch the private party in Disco club on Thursday - expected to headline - because he did his private party room at the Hyatt hotel, where you are staying in Sao Paulo. With about 50 guests, was to be just a warm up before the show at the Disco, only that Axl was excited and gave up going to the club. Warner at 2:30 in the morning that would give the pipe - when the club was already full.

Negotiations for this show deprive the Disco have been difficult. When the newspaper Folha de S. Paul announced the presentation, this Wednesday, Guns N 'Roses withdrew to report for fear of rioting in front of it. Hours later he went back and confirmed the show. Moreover, the band went over the sound at the nightclub in the late afternoon Thursday. In addition to the guests who were on disc, the other musicians Guns were also surprised at the hole that gave Axl.

I know the source, but please do always post the source URL. To make it clear, it was written in Portuguese and then translated using an automatic tool and pasted here. You shouldn't do that without warning people. That just adds to the confusion.

Was Vivi Mascarano there? No! What's her source? We don't know if there is any. Mion already ack'ed Axl wasn't on drugs and he wasn't told about it from Axl's bodyguard -- he assumed that. What's next -- will this Vivi do the same? "I assumed Axl was giving a warm-up party"?

We need facts from reliable sources or nothing but Axl and co. showing up to the gig tomorrow. Peace!

She's really quite beautiful.

Thaila Ayala (actress) for those who care.

If someone actually made up an appearance and then said he didn't show because he ODed, that's beyond terrible. It's also slander, although I'm not sure what the laws would be for that in Brasil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation#Brazil

I can't believe we haven't heard from any fan in the SP hotel that would be able to give us information to shoot all the rumors down. I understand GNR camp may be more careful but fans could say 'hey, I've seen Axl', 'hey, I've seen Ron'.

Btw, am I the only one puzzled by the fact that we haven't seen pics of band's gear on the venue? No soundcheck pics? No "after soundcheck pics but band there"? If this Mion asshole was so excited why not share any pics now? Lack of proof?

Thing i'm still not clear on though, is did any of the band show?, or did some fool see Andreas Kisser, and presume he was part of Gn'R!, hence the comments about band being there, but no Axl?...

We don't know if any of the band showed up and if they ever confirmed to anyone they would. The only thing is that Fernando confirmed to us no 3 secret gigs a few days ago.

Review!! (Via google translate)

The stage was set for the secret and intimate show of Guns n 'Roses at Disco club, Thursday night, in SP.

Palquinho mounted with drums, keyboards and percussion; setlist with 17 songs (including "Paradise City" ending), several true fans of the band in place (Marcos Mion, Ana Beatriz Barros, Daniella Cicarelli, Isabeli Fontana etc.). Producers group to expected.

Then, at about 0:30, someone says, "Axl will leave the hotel [Hyatt] at 1.

At 1, someone else warns: "The Rose will leave the hotel at 2am."

Then at 2:30 there is the rumor: Axl was a sore throat and was taken to a hospital. Shortly after, the equipment began to be dismantled.

Inside, fights. Wealthy angry turns pounding, a model trying to hit the other with a bottle of champagne ... Outside, more confusion, rush, swearing. A team of Panic was attacked, two security guards of the house jumped a fence and went after a boy.

What is lacking Marcos Mion, a partner at home, another of the owners of the Disco, Mark Mary, fought with security guards at the band, who were carrying the tools that the club had rented. What beauty.

And so was the "secret show" Guns in the Disco.

TRUE FANS, LOL. That list includes a hater and models only.

Awesome, so someone said SORE THROAT that Mion translated to COCAINE on his twitter and will delete that as soon as GNR camp comes in. Mion also mentioned this "fight for the rented equipment".

Link 1

Link 2

Link 3

Link 4

Examples of how the media is reporting this at the moment, in Portuguese (I think!)

All in portuguese, yes.

1st mentions cocaine and Mion writing that on twitter (lawsuits, anyone?). 2nd states Andreas Kisser (Sepultura) attended. 3rd and 4th -- nothing new.

The club owner had the setlist taped over his Slash tee shirt:

Just a heads up: He isn't the club owner, this guy is Pedro Neschling (@pedroneschling). Marcos Mion (@mionzera) is the club owner (not on this pic, but 2nd - left to right on the other pic).

Can someone breakdown whats going on - for those that can't read spanish.

That's portuguese, btw. Please read my previous posts and you will get what we've got so far. We haven't got word from GNR camp yet though.

Awesome!!! People have been going delirious following text message updates, so actually getting an official live stream will be something to behold

I am sure that even with the live stream, there will be something else that others expect from GNR.

Fernando, please make sure it's either streamed using Adobe Flash or some sort of "standard" codec through HTML5. I'm saying that because you will easily find folks trying to promote their non-standard stuff that fans would need to install in order to watch the stream and that would work only for a small subset of people.

FYI, YouTube uses Flash by default and has experimental HTML5 support - same is valid for Vimeo. No, they don't regularly stream gigs. YouTube did two (YT Live and U2) only. I wrote that just to point out that if you sign with folks using similar technology users won't have trouble. Sorry if you already knows these details.

Let me know if you need more info, I work on that on a well known company.

Who? Are they able to tell the difference between w/ echo and w/o echo?

The opening band before Bach had such a terrible sound setup for them that it was awesome. I mean, they suck so much that it was good to hear all that packed in a single blob of noise. My brain managed to ignore the mess after a few moments. If the genre exists, they were playing ultra speed hardcore punk.

Do they have a web site or a MySpace page? Gimme a link please!

phew! http://www.uberro.com.br/

Thank you! Though it's not hc punk at all. Just regular modern rock.

Sorry, haven't heard studio. That's how they sounded live.

Yeah I don't give a shit what these non-fans think. Just hope Axl is feeling better.

Same here, I hope Axl is well.

I told you when this thread started and there you get it:

Marcos Mion bashed Axl tweeting he was on cocaine on the hotel - No, Mion wasn't there so later on he argued "to make it clear" that it was Axl's bodyguard who told him that. HOLY SHIT, why Axl's bodyguard left the hotel before Axl? To guard what? Mion's shit face? Think about that. Another subceleb compared Axl to Jagger and you know all this craziness is making the biggest media portals in Brazil such as globo.com.

I hope someone from GNR camp confirms Axl is ok, fuck the non-fans. They were (intentionally or not) owned and got what they deserved.

I was on the left side too. Lol! Fortus, DJ and Bumbles were there all the time. Agree about the acoustic, OMG, but they told me that acoustic was very good at regular floor.

I'd say that's a common thing.

Who? Are they able to tell the difference between w/ echo and w/o echo?

The opening band before Bach had such a terrible sound setup for them that it was awesome. I mean, they suck so much that it was good to hear all that packed in a single blob of noise. My brain managed to ignore the mess after a few moments. If the genre exists, they were playing ultra speed hardcore punk.

Do they have a web site or a MySpace page? Gimme a link please!

phew! http://www.uberro.com.br/

Where is it San Paulo? or?

São Paulo, SP, Brazil. The venue name seems to be "Disco Club" and it seems that it was leaked on twitter a bit earlier so I wouldn't be surprised if they have got a few uninvited fans trying to get inside.

- The first guy on the pic above. It is interesting that he is using a Globo TV microphone on the venue. There's a chance the band will get some promotion on a TV show. I'm just guessing, yes.

You know

it's not a bad idea, really, to win over the critics, if the band wants some good publicity...

I'm not criticizing the band, in fact I would love if Axl ack'ed that during the gig saying something like 'I know many of you guys used to bash me, but it seems you're kinda digging the show, aren't you?'. I am pissed off by the fact that the bashers are now all over twitter happily writing that they're in a GNR private gig. Axl should use that as a fuel to ignore any critics and just move on with whatever he wants to do, seriously.

http://twitter.com/pittyleone/status/10353330235 -- kinda like "don't tell anyone, but I'm in Guns' secret gig"

-- the asshole says he's proud that Guns will play on his club today (after years and years of bashing the band and Axl on TV), he later on mentioned the band did a soundcheck there earlier.

I'm pissed, it seems they have managed to reunite a lot of folks that bashed GNR a lot on the media - ie.:

Marcos Mion - MTV Brazil: Used to bash every single GNR video and Axl because Slash left the band and MTV Brazil always sucked Kurt's balls even after death. They ignored Axl used to like Nirvana, so go figure. It seems Mion owns the private gig venue. Cool, huh?!

Pitty - singer wannabe: Publicly criticized Axl for using an oxygen tent. She saw him during Rock in Rio Lisboa and had no clue Axl and many other rock singers used an oxygen tent back in late 80s/early 90s (Bruce, anyone?). Her reaction was that if Axl lost his magic because he used an oxygen tent, like if he was cheating.

Just two morons that were invited. I am sure I can extend this list without much research. Btw, Mion is 2nd (left to right) on the pic below:

What's the point? Btw, I wanted to watch bbf playing this time. I will attend Rio and I am sure there is a much more appropriate sound setup there. I went to Roger Waters on the same venue in Rio a few years ago and sound was superb. ;-)

The point is IT WAS A JOKE... But you forgot to laugh!

pwned.