Gagarin

1 minute ago, TheSeeker said:

Does anyone still have the shit-quality recording of "IRS" from Eddie Trunk's radio show in 2003?

I was wondering if the lyrics from the new 1999 leak are the same as in that 2003 recording - Axl's phrasing is different in a lot of spots than what he sang on the final album

Trying to figure out how many times he re-recorded the vocals

The vocals and lyrics are identical. The Trunk recording was the 99 recording, I am nearly sure.

1 minute ago, cpaxlvacy said:

Guys, i just took a picture of my windows player. It says Chinese Democracy Sessions Disc #8. Take a look:

 

You can put whatever you want into a MP3 ID3 tag/Meta Info. 

You could label it the lost Watergate Nixon Tape if you wanted to.

Zombux -thanks for the 'tutorial' screenshot! I seriously am surprised at how easy this was. But I did miss the 'advanced settings' at first.

Thanks!

I basically cried hearing those November Rain demos in such quality after, like, 20 years of having them in various degrees of shitty quality.

I'm lame.

But damn.

Instead of solving the Kennedy assassination, I'm going to kidnap 2006 Axl and bring him to the present. 

Axl *wanted* the vocals on November Rain to be vocally rough. Because he wanted it to be something "everybody can sing or thinks they can sing, so they can be part of it."

I don't know what Eddie's talking about - he was just as "good" on his radio show as he was on that VH1 show. I guess he thinks he could do better but I don't imagine it would have been.

I think he could sing like that every night perfectly I believe. Chinese Democracy is similar that way.

For me it was one of those statements - "this is what he was working on, this is what he fought for".
The extra guitars (By Bumble? Who does that bend at the start?) I don't like and I feel like the vocal performance is inconsistent.
(Or maybe the performance is fine, I just don't understand the choices).

The lyrics are strange in places and downright cryptic. This is one of those songs I'd like to hear an explanation about.

1. Who's "you"
2. "Love that you fed by perversion and pain" - how do you feed love with those things? What does that look like?
3. "Forgive what you have / for what you might lose" - interesting and unique phrasing, but how does it work? Forgive what you have or lose more?
4. "If not for the ones / That you could not save" - who are the ones 'you' couldn't save? If not for? Why would she/he have turned to them?
5. "turned to the hearts of the ones that you would not save" - WOULD not save, why wouldn't the person?
6. "Reasons they'e taught us" - what reasons? Why do they give way?
   
   
   So, I love the song, but there's so much I don't understand.
   Also the outro and all the underlying piano and effects is just amazing. There is a ton going on there with that song.

Here's the thing - "sounded fine" at the shows "I was at" is way, way, way different from sounding fine on a recording.
YouTube doesn't magically make things "sound bad".

Nowadays Axl is for the most part on key, on pitch. What's missing is timbre aka rasp, etc - you can't really hear that in the venue through the PA. Because you're feeling the music move your freaking body and you're hearing the crowd and hearing the sound of the PA *move air*. But on a regular volume on a regular recording? You hear things. You hear things like "Mickey Mouse" or whatever, you hear him use falsetto and you year thinness and you basically hear it unblemished from the energy of the live event.

So please stop "sounded fine at the show I was at", because YES, the show did sound good in the room and in the moment. Plenty of examples of shows that don't hold up even to that.
But the recording might not sound good. World of difference of perception. Singing live - it's in the air and it's gone. Recording? It's there forever and everything has a light held up to it.

Can you imagine someone reading something you said in your 20's when you're like 52?

...

Needs more Stephanie Seymour.

HAHAHAHAHAH.

I certainly would pay for an Axl podcast.

It was just taken from Live Like A Suicide, which had the added crowd noise. They didn't add the noise in for GNR Lies.

They only pressed, what, 10,000 of them in 86? So, I like that they made a way for every fan to get it.

And yes, it was a fake 'indie' release, a fake 'live' record, trying to raise street cred and translate the energy of the live show. That's my guess.

1.) Did anything leak today?

2.) Anything get announced?

99.

Prostitute, all the way. Bucket. Clean voice. No Bumble. Lots of Pittman.

Referring to what was done in the 2000's, did say once something like "I could sit on my ass and write poetry all day long", but then the lyrics/song "sound like something from the 80's" (now I'm remember the quote less and less), so now "music parts are written and then I try and find lyrics for it".

Shotgun Blues and Get In The Ring, that's it.

I'm sorry you don't appreciate My World.

But...Breakdown? Breakdown is great. So Fine is also very good.

I'm sorry. I'm just sorry.

Even in that clip, you can hear that he has trouble keeping his vocal register the same.
What we know as his singing voice is not his natural singing voice.

I think the rasp takes and has taken a toll.

His vocal chords were pierced for our transgressions, his voice was crushed for our iniquities.

Mehhhh... we sure the ending solo/outro under the vocals in Street Of Dreams is still Bucket?
On the 'Other Instruments' stem I hear some more Bucket-ish guitars, but the main guitar track stem sounds more like Bumble or Fink doing what used to be Bucket's part. Or maybe it's Bucket still. I might be nuts. Probably am.

Maybe if the vocals are worked over, because we've heard all the bootlegs! I want to hear a mythical representation of what the shows could sound like, LOL.

(That's a thing about Live Era - it was much harder to get *every single show* back in 1999, now we have torrents of every bootleg ever and many of us have downloaded a fair portion of the shows. But Live Era was as close as many of us got, besides Paris 1992 which was easily traded/bought and Tokyo 1992.)

I can't imagine a live album being easier to release than a EP or a new album from a label's cooperation and support point of view though.

I have to say any of the 1992 shows we have when his voice is absolutely destroyed were the best... but in 12 years...

Don't know. Any of the ones with a Prostitute intro! Dublin is pretty good.

Sometimes the covers are played and sang with more intensity than the other songs.

Whole Lotta Rosie has way more energy than some of the other songs at the shows I was at.