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I'm going to this festival. One interesting thing that stands out is GNR is slotted for the longest headline slot. From the Welcome to Rockville app's daily schedules:

Thursday - Kiss 10:30-11:45 (Five Finger Death Punch playing 9:15-10:25 on the second stage)

Friday - Korn 10:30-11:45 (Breaking Benjamin 9:30-10:30 second stage)

Saturday - GNR 9:30-11:59 (strict noise curfew I'm guessing)

Sunday - NIN 9:35-11:05

Interesting GNR is only headliner going over 90 minutes, apparently by 59 minutes.

22 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

I'd argue the opposite, Slashs profile and name is now bigger than ever. SMKC most likely is going to benefit largely by Slashs stint in GNR

My $.02:

Until NITL, the biggest reason to go see SMKC was to hear Slash play GNR & VR hits.

Now that Slash has toured exhaustively with GNR again, I think that takes away from SMKC's draw as a headliner. It makes them good festival filler IMHO. If you're already paying to be at a show, sure, you'll go check out Slash and Myles.

SMKC need their own radio hit – their own Slither or Fall to Pieces – now to be a headline draw IMO.

For me, this tour is all about seeing Axl and Slash on the same stage (nothing against Duff, but I wasn't dying to see any of his shows with nuGNR). I have my tickets and don't mind that Frank is drumming.

But I feel for Matt. He has to feel like Slash and Duff were his allies considering all they've done together post-GNR, and I don't blame if he feels betrayed they've agreed to play stadiums with Axl and Frank.

On the same token, I don't blame Slash & Duff for agreeing to play with Frank, presumably much cheaper than Matt. Matt's absence likely has minimal impact on ticket sales. As others have said in this thread, Axl likely wanted a balance that made it feel like it's still his band.

I have no idea what Matt's financial situation is, but I think all AFD/UYI Gunners know that the demand for any solo/supergroup shows plummets with NITL.

Right outside the Citrus Bowl 11 years ago was my first time seeing Slash and Duff. Velvet Revolver played WJRR's Earthday Birthday show in 2005 at Tinker Field, adjacent to the Citrus Bowl.

Last time I saw a show in the Citrus Bowl was Summer Sanitarium 2003 (Metallica, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Deftones and Mudvayne).

9 minutes ago, P1g Vomit said:

Maybe im more optimistic than most others but I think they can sell out or at least put in 40,000+ to these venues. Just checking the ticketmaster interactive map of places like Philly, Orlando, Boston, Houston, etc looks to me like they're gonna sell out. I can't even access the NY, Toronto, chicago, Dallas or other big market maps but I assume cause of the big population that theyll sell out or do well. I mean tickets dont officially go on sale to the general public till tomorrow and even than theres 3 months till the tour actually starts to sell more tickets.

I'm a bit biased because I'm in Florida, but Orlando should be telling about tour demand. For the No. 3 state in population, you have one date in a centrally located big city, easily accessible from all regions of the state. If that show can't sell, the tour is in need of another headliner.

1 hour ago, Garren said:

So, I'm looking to buy tickets in the $80 range for the Aug. 3 show... would you guys recommend I use a presale code and get them now? Or wait until the public sale starts and move fast from there?

If I should go with a presale, then which would you guys recommend? (I can't go with the Nightrain presale as I don't have membership.)

Just FYI, you can load multiple presale codes at once. Today to look at the Orlando map out of curiosity I loaded the Facebook code and the Citi card code, then checked both kinds of tickets

If the tickets sell well, it will probably be no opener or a relative no name.

Fiction Plane, Sting's son band IIRC, opened The Police reunion tour. Those were sold out arenas, not stadiums obviously.

Van Halen/DLR reunion in 2008 had Bob Marley's kid I had never heard of open an arena show.

Not a reunion, but AC/DC Black Ice tour was opened by what seemed like a local band in 2009. 

A stadium crowd is tricky. Need enough radio hits and clean vocals to entertain the people drinking $20 beers

If they're willing to pay:

Smashing Pumpkins

Marilyn Manson

Soundgarden

If they're going cheap, might be a washed up 90s band:

Collective Soul

Bush

In between:

Lenny Kravitz 

Just got my tickets with the Citi presale. I was surprised it actually offered me GA Pit as best available, but I prefer a seatback. For my budget, I settled on plaza level $100/ticket.

6 minutes ago, bigpoop said:

I'd say no, but there's no way in hell Axl would ever sing any VR songs anyway.

There's a connection with Fall To Pieces, but I don't imagine Axl singing Scott Weiland lyrics.

The Police announced their reunion with a Grammys performance, so it's not unprecedented. The Coachella and Vegas announcements made some headlines, but you do have to feel like some big media event is coming before Vegas.

I mean, there was a well documented near miss in 2006. Weiland was flipping out behind the scenes over if, I remember it was rumored that the OG GNR was billed for that download festival.

Too funny that just two years later Weiland would tell them, "oh yeah, just wanted to let you guys know I'm going back to STP" and VR imploded

Don't know if Coachella contract allows it, but you feel like a public performance may be coming, either Kimmel, another late night show or SNL.

Or a secret show in LA or Vegas? Lots of media in Las Vegas right now for CES, which wraps on the 9th. There was that thing about Frank "had to get to LA" and now the Slash photo.

There will never be a proper CD2 physical release because it would be a commercial flop and it would seriously bruise Axl's ego.

Best Buy isn't purchasing a million copies of CD2. It was a smart move by Axl to get the platinum certification on CD, but no retailer is mass buying a nuGNR album after the BB-ChiDem fiasco.

Apple might be interested in streaming some not-yet released music like they did with Dr. Dre and the Compton album/soundtrack. If they went the streaming route, fans would be happy getting to hear new music, Axl would get paid and sales numbers wouldn't be a concern.

I'm surprised by the amount of people who believe Slash and Axl haven't yet met in person, or have only met briefly.

I don't expect them to hang-out every day, but I'd assume they would have more contact than that. If nothing else, to discuss plans for the show.

No way they agree to share the stage without at least a brief meeting and a handshake.

Technology and big money have made reunions like the Eagles, Police, Van Halen and GNR all possible.

All these bands that hated each other had blowups from being surrounded by each other all the time. In the day and age of $275 tickets, $16 Bud Lights at the concession stands and $45 souvenir t-shirts, the amount of money that will change hands allows the band to be able to go to great lengths to isolate Axl and Slash as much as possible off stage.

With cell phones and texting, management doesn't need to keep the band in one place at all times. Axl and Slash can stay in completely different hotels - across town even. With the money coming in, they can afford to travel in separate limos/jets from gig to gig, just as long as they can hold it together in rehearsal and on stage.

It's easy to smile and get along on stage if you haven't had been arguing/fighting with that person all day and don't have to see them after the show.

Another poster referenced Roth/EVH – that working relationship is the best hope for GNR.

I'm pretty sure Coachella and Rage Against the Machine made the reunion show sound like a one-off, but they eventually toured.

The festival looks absolutely nothing like the big rock festivals we have here in Europe like Rock am Ring or Roskilde - but from the lineup (and prices) it seems to be a big temporary theme park with lots of very mainstream pop music and presumably that kind of audience!?!.....

For almost 15 years, that type of rock dominated the US festival scene between Lolla, Warped and Ozzfest.

Around the time Ozzfest was dying out and the revived traveling Lollapalooza lost money, multi-day destination camping festivals like Bonnaroo and Coachella started to gain popularity. Bonnaroo was born out of jam band culture, appealing to fans of Phish, Dave Matthews and the Dead. Coachella was a little more mainstream, and embraced harder stuff like Nine Inch Nails, Tool and Rage Against the Machine before Bonnaroo did. Now a days, indie rock, hip hop and edm dominate the undercard while the headliners can be anything from Top 40 to classic rock. Roo and Coachella really pride themselves on eclectic, far reaching lineups.

US promoters long considered American hard rock/metal fans too risky for camping festivals. It's gradually starting to catch on with events like Rock on the Range, but the jam/indie scene dominates US rock festivals.

So we know that Slash, Duff and Frank are involved.

Why keep the rest of the lineup a secret? What positive purpose does that serve?

And how long will they wait to announce it? The cat is out of the bag. Slash and Duff have acknowledged they are part of it. How long till they release the rest of the names?

I think it has something to do with the possibility of the Coachella lineup being different than whatever the touring lineup is supposed to be.

Good point. Coachella would pay crazy money to bribe Axl into playing with Steven (and Izzy). The festival would love to claim the only night of the original five reunited.

On the subject of VR, Slither is too much of a Weiland song IMO - it wouldn't feel right. I kind of get why SMKC keep it as a setlist mainstay, but it was bittersweet for me seeing them do it. Weiland's voice and personality made that song what it is.

But "DishNation=fake" you guys

wow..if it's indeed Coachella they're gonna need lots of safe space tents cause those whining pc hipster idiots will be crying offended by every GNR song.

Gotta open the Coachella set with One In A Million

But what exactually is in the trailer ?

Shots of a concert crowd with audio of Jungle live. It's short, it says "Regal first look music" in the corner of the screen IIRC.

Would that be the theatre franchise? http://www.regmovies.com/theatre-list

Yeah I went to a Regal. All the "lights on" entertainment is Regal First Look (tv/movie promo footage)

But what exactually is in the trailer ?

Shots of a concert crowd with audio of Jungle live. It's short, it says "Regal first look music" in the corner of the screen IIRC.