dikkepik

My opinion, if the album isn't done and already out of Axl's hand by the first new york show, then the album isn't going to be finished before the end of the summer, what with all the tours and festivals coming up. and if axl wouldn't finish the album when he had 13 years with nothing else going on, then you can be damn sure he won't finish the album while on tour! i really hope that its finished and a date is announced at the concert!

i only wish i could be there! i was supposed to have a ticket to the concert in exchange for some work, but the person i was making the deal with has stopped responding

so if anyone else has a ticket they'd trade for some work...

and since im rambling on and on, i guess i'll just input here, i can't wait to rock out to the new album!

If I remember correctly they've toured for nearly three years, in which the illusions were released, so don't be so sure of that.

And you wanna trade a ticket for some work? It's possible, but then the work would be fucking my mom for a month, since she's been dry for about 8 years now...

A lot of dates for an average-sized country, but hey, you never know!

But why then are they just listed now instead of since many, many years ago? There where a lot of popular items to sell back then right? You negative wanker!

Hummm because Guns N'Roses starts a big international tour NOW, not many, many years ago, and it causes new interest in Guns N'Roses, what it means thousands of potential buyers arround the world of their products??...think about it

By the way... maybe I'm just a 'negative realistic wanker'...

Hmmm... Then it would have made sence to put them on the website in 02 since there would be a tour also (perhaps not as big as this, but still worth it) AND the music awards back then, so.... Just keep bullshittin'

Must have sounded cool.... rock1

Well... don't start wanking with the idea it's obvious that the promo starts, and it's obvious that Gunners still in Geffen, or something like that... Guns N'Roses is listed on Geffen site because Geffen has 21 items of Guns N'Roses (cd's, dvd's, vhs's, etc.) and it's simply a way of sell more stuff.

But why then are they just listed now instead of since many, many years ago? There where a lot of popular items to sell back then right? You negative wanker!

Yep... Stil listening, but I'm getting bored by IRS by now, hope it won't be on CD.

And I love the other, but I think better sounds pretty unfinished (just listen to the bridges in the song), I thing Axl will never allow this song on CD in this version (but I love the sound of the song though)!

And wouldn't this be on Geffen's site if it where true? Haven't seen it there....

Not much here in Holland...

HartJH...

The album will drop in the Summer/Fall...Axl has always toured first then released the album a la the Illusion tour/album release. Again, when you know your product is awesome, and your band will kick ass live, why would Axl worry? Have you seen the shit music/acts out there? Once Axl takes the stage in NYC on May 12, all of you bitches will know that this time, it's going to happen for good.

Ah, where to begin...I appreciate you making this so easy.

If CD is released and doesn't sell, GnR is done, and Axl is a failure. They may continue to make music (likely not because Axl doesn't handle failure very well), but it's over. $13MM invested already and this one flops? We have complete control. Axl can make all the music he wants, but nobody will sign a failed act with his history of antics. If you think money doesn't dictate everything, you are fooling yourself. It's sad, but it's true.

One performance on TV and everyone knows who's in GnR? Funny. Exacly how many of those guys are ABSOLUTELY still in the current lineup? Who is the lead guitarist (and you better pray the answer isn't Finck)? The short US tour in 2002 cleared it up for everyone? The tour that couldn't sell out most of the dates? The one that was supposed to be followed by CD's triumphant release? Yep, that was very mainstream...everybody knew about that.

Here's the funniest part: Axl DOESN'T know his product is awesome or we'd have had it years ago. He DOESN'T know his band will kick ass live. Who wants to hear a 44 year old out of shape formerly great frontman that can't sing live recreate the late 90's in 2006? How good did their last tour go when they had a technically great lead guitar player? How long did that last? Who will step up to take the musical lead? What the hell would make you think that this lineup is it forever when it's changed several times since 1996? Take off the blinders.

Even I can admit that even a reunion likely wouldn't last...there is no chance in hell that Axl's version of GnR is here for the long term.

On Edit: I highlighted my favorite line.

1. cd WILL SELL FUCKIN MILLIONS OF COPIES WORLDWIDE because millions of die hards have been waiting so long for it. It will easily recoup the money spent on it, do some simple maths and you will find out why.

2. AXL is not and never can be considered a failure, he is one of the most talented frontmen ever not to mention songwriter. Never mind what chi dem does.

3. How can you say you dont think it will sell when even you (an apparent critic and new gnr basher) say you will definately buy it?????

4. AXL rose i would doubt is that interested in making millions of dollars for himself he is already rich, the motivaton for cash is therefore limited to the record company. The GNR brand will trnover huge amounts per annum on old / new material - i therefore would argue that cash is not the issue. And also, if t was, your right we woudl have seen the album a very long time ago as the guy did what the record company wanted and rushed it out when he wasnt happy with it. Forget the economics dickhead, money isnt any motivation here. You are mistaken.

5. Perhaps you dont no much about GNR, old or new, if you had ever listened/seen old concerts from the 80s / 90s, you woudl understand that mr rose coudl never fuckin sing! You arnt going to see classical opera when you go c gnr, you ging to see a rock band with a kick ass frontman screaming his heart out, the guy never has ha d a good voice, unique would describe it better, outrageous even, whcih is one of the reasons GNR are / were amazing in the first place.

6. Wy people like you visit this board and have a go at new gnr i dont no, if you dont like go away! I think you are under the misconception that we all believe GNR will be the biggest band in the world again, i think most of us would doubt that is going to happen again, that aint why were here. We are here because we like the new band for what it is and love the greatest frontman to grace the earth. Not because we are living for a reunion or to relive the past.

(sorry about spelling, laptop keyboard acting up)

I'm fairly sure I never said it wouldn't sell...selling doesn't make it a success. And Axl has failed...many times. He's let down his fans many times.

I do respect you for admitting it's a new band...that's further than most Axlites will go. Nice job.

Whoohoo, the respect of HARTJH. Guess where we'll all put that... I have a theory:

You are so hurt by Axl, that you've grown to hate the guy. You used to have a crush on him, but as you said, when he let his fans down many times, something just snapped inside you and your young, gayish heart was broken. And since you don't know how to get back at Axl, you start bitchin to people who like what he's doing. It's crystal clear, it has heart-broken gay written all over it.

QUOTE(dikkepik @ Apr 25 2006, 09:57 AM)

Hey HARTJH,

Wat kinda bitchin pussy are you? You're only busy with getting bashed, but that;s you're own fault. First you say the sound quality is o so poor, which in my opinion, isn't really that bad. Sure it's a demo, but that doesn't matter. The larger record companies also listen to demos to judge a band by (if it has potential or not), so why can't we do that for ourselves?

Second you say the mainstream hasn't picked up on it yet, well: OFF FUCKIN' COURSE NOT, IT'S A DEMO!!!

Have you picked up on the new Justin Timberlake-demo's? Probably not, although such an action would suit you, you fucking queer! That's why you're bashed, because you talk shit, you fucker... And you don't even have the brains to comprehend it. Go to a Robbie Williams forum, that's what the mainstream likes, it'll probably suit you just fine sucking up over there, and perhaps you can even find youself some nice gay cock over there, fuck you! I suggest to everyone on this forum to ignore the gay-fucker called HARTJH, cause all he can do is produce shit coming from his mouth.

This coming from a noob with the name dikke? Or is it dyke? Either way, you have just established your intelligence level. Thank you and have a good day.

I think you mean to say social skills instead of intelligence, so again wrong. What about noob? You're like ""uhh I already posted about 281 replies, so I'm a guru over here now". In other words pathetic, what happened to you, huh? Caught your wife banging your best friend? Dying of cancer? Can't find a boyfriend? Troubled childhood, damaged package?

Just quit bullshitting on this forum and let the people who like GNR do what they wanna do, without you fucking up this thread...

Hey HARTJH,

Wat kinda bitchin pussy are you? You're only busy with getting bashed, but that;s you're own fault. First you say the sound quality is o so poor, which in my opinion, isn't really that bad. Sure it's a demo, but that doesn't matter. The larger record companies also listen to demos to judge a band by (if it has potential or not), so why can't we do that for ourselves?

Second you say the mainstream hasn't picked up on it yet, well: OFF FUCKIN' COURSE NOT, IT'S A DEMO!!!

Have you picked up on the new Justin Timberlake-demo's? Probably not, although such an action would suit you, you fucking queer! That's why you're bashed, because you talk shit, you fucker... And you don't even have the brains to comprehend it. Go to a Robbie Williams forum, that's what the mainstream likes, it'll probably suit you just fine sucking up over there, and perhaps you can even find youself some nice gay cock over there, fuck you! I suggest to everyone on this forum to ignore the gay-fucker called HARTJH, cause all he can do is produce shit coming from his mouth.

all I can say is after hearing the blues, madagascar, Chinese Democracy, Better, IRS, CITR and TWAT and they are not even the studio versions.There is NO WAY in the world that this album is going to suck.

LOL - that is funny. Wait until the Album comes out to judge, not some crappy (recording quality) demos. This is why people have no tolerance for the Axl ass kissers. It's not fair to judge any artist on unfinished material.

If all it takes to impress you are those demos, you need to upgrade your quality standards. You show even the current GnR no respect with that opinion.

So, people can´t have the oppurtunity to actually like the new material without being an "Axl ass kisser"???

I don´t think that people are so stupid that they don´t put considiration in the fact that it´s actually DEMOS we´ve heard..

But if U bash those demos for their bad quality standard (not their potential), u´re a retard..

And some do, just for the bashing.

That´s why people have no tolerance for the Axl bashers...

I just lost all respect for you. You call me a retard because I refuse to judge someone based off of poorly recorded material?

Anyone that thinks that the demos are excellent quality work is just blind (or deaf as the case may be) and 99% are going to be Axl ass kissers. the other 1% succumb to peer pressure and say they are great to fit in (Kaneda). Do they have potential? Absolutely, but the quality is so bad that there is no way to know for sure if they are good or not. So I don't judge, which makes me a retard. Very good point.

So let me get this straight: I would get bashed if I said they suck, I do get bashed for saying the recording quality sucks (which any rational person would admit btw), is there anything I can say other than "they are great" that won't result in getting bashed???

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