Wild Rose

This is really stupid

fucking right ,dude ....I would totally agree with you if I dind't gave shit about AXL and astrology.....and I can understand that you don't give shit about horoscopes.....but I wonder what the fuck are you doing on this forum and who the fuck are you to bear HES name when you dont't give shit about the real W.AXL ROSE?

I assume that if you did care about HEM you would like to know deeply what HE feels and thinks and what HE will have to go through in the future...You don't.

Perhaps you should change your name in Slash or Duff, because they love AXL so much as you do!!!!!

I care and Wild Rose cares.

And personally I really can't see whats wrong with it. Maybe its because I've grown up with mum using astrology as just another way to get to know someone but it really doesn't seem like anything stranger than reading something like a 3rd party biography of the band.

Is great what you just did for me......THANK YOU....

My friend had accidentally removed the thread I stared last week......Shit happens but I don't really care...I was away in Paris and I never had the fucking chance to read how the people reacted to my thread and eventually if someone did gave a answer to my question....That's why....here I go again...

Too bad for the ones whom found this topic a bullshit and had a laugh about it..... I don't give a fuck about them...Eventually they're not interested in astrology......but fuck it,I respect everyone's point of view.

All I really care is to know if there's somebody who can tell me what time was at the moment of AXL's birth...With that info I will be able to make AXL's personal horoscope and than I will share it here on the forum with all the ones who have interest in reading it....

Just to be clear for all of you: This is not fucking witchcraft or any fucking kind of magic meant to harm AXL...I love the man more than all the fans put together and this is astrology,not some kind of vodoo and I could make anyone personal horoscope just knowing date-time-place of birth.....

So there's anyone who can help???

I just want to say enjoy the next few months and possibly years

Guns N Roses in any form is without doubt one of the most kick ass bands and Axl is a rock god.

We have been patient and we have been mocked by other fans for our love of GnR, we have suffered, we have waited and now it appears Axl is ready to reclaim his place at the top.GnR fans are unique, we have days where we lose faith but the very next day we are here and ready to keep going.Guns are back baby and they are gonna fucking rock.To those who get to see them this summer im really happy for you and i know you will love it.I can't wait to see these fuckers at Download

Moment of over excitedness over and back to normal rock1

Guns N' Roses isnt back dude, but Axl is.

AXL IS GUNS N' ROSES.......

HE is always been and HE will be till the bitter end..........

No bullshit dude...even Gibly admitted it in 1992 by saying:"If AXL was the nicest, quietest guy in the world we'd never sell any records"......or had you forgot about it?

all i know is that he was born on february the 6th 1962.... dont go trying to pull off some witchcraft and get all homo.

If you were tryn

Contact her spirit via a Medium

I recoment Derek Akhora (definate spelling mistake but meh)

could be something...but astrology and calling up spirits are totally different things as you know..... and I'm into astrology not into disturbing the dead's peace.....

Call his mother and ask. Pretend that u´re calling from some paper that will publish horoscopes for famous artists..

good idea yours.....It may had worked if AXL's mother was still alive!!!!

The day that C. D. will be out i'll get up early and be the first when the music store opens,just to make sure I will have a copy.....than on the way back I will make a phone call and arrange all kinds of good stuff to party on & on.....When finally I will be home I will put the cd in my stereo,press play,set the volume to max and celebrate the release of this great album for at least 3 days no stop........

Axl wasn't born..................he was hatched.

like an amphibian

lizard king.

i do hear though he has an interesting tongue.

Thanks for the info......What you say is a breaking news because none knew before today that AXL wasn't born but hatched!!!!... My compliments to you, for this great discovery!!!!

So I wonder why someone as you,so good informed and with such great knowledge doesn't also know how late it was when he did hatched........

Probably some of you will find this funny or even f***king stupid thing to ask and laugh......do you think I'll give shit about it? I can make AXL personal horoscope and share it here with all the ones whom are interested in reading it........all I need to know is the exact time of AXL's birth.....there's anyone whom surely knows it?

What a f***k?

Probably nearly all the f***kheads whom are against this appreciation thread for BETA didn't speded time to read the interview with this sweet and humble lady on page 2......

This woman is the first one who really cares of AXL for the complicated and hurted person whom HE hes and not for HES angel's face and all HES fame.....Doesn't anyone feels good to know that finally AXL got the mother he never had or simply someone who can really trust?

And I'm also pretty sure that if there was not Beta to support and help AXL while HE was going through the dark times today we wouldn't have HEM anymore.....I think that every real G n' R fans must buy this woman a drink.....

ROCK ON BETA!!!!!

NEVER LEAVE MY AXL ALONE!!!!!

I always asked to myself who could be the lucky lady whom is shopping with AXL.....Probably this thread gave me a answer,but I need to know for sure......there's anyone who can tell me if this woman is really Beta please?

Yes, that's Beta!

And also you're welcome guys.

thanks for let me know for sure,girl.

I'll be honest...this is one lame-ass thread. People are just drooling all over this person who most of you all don't know anything about. I am not going to say she "rocks" or "rules" because frankly i dont know her.

peace

There is an interesting interview with a lot of Q/A...

ill search it

she is a nice lady

EDIT: and she is very kind with GNR fans

Here you go

AN INTERVIEW WITH BETA

Who is this woman? Up to januaary 14 she was a simple womaan from Sao pAulo of 45 yearas old living

in Californiaa, divorced and mom of three children. After this date she is also known as "The Mom" of Axl

Rose. And she was called and praised in the stage she suddenly became a big celebrity. Her picture

appeared in the headlines of many brazilian newspapers.

In the bar at the Intercontinental Hotel she gave us this interview where she speaks about her personal life,

her children aand reveals that Axl is an eternal romantic person.

He is so passionate that at the time he was with Stephanie Seymour, he "went to her house riding a bg horse

and carrying flowers".

So this is Axl Rose according to Beta...

Q: Mother?

B: I always cook and take the meals to the studio, I make cakes, pies and I call before a show to wish them

"good luck". I even light caandles for them. Its like im the mother of Guns n' roses.

Q: Did Axl composed any song for you?

B: I dont know, i dont think so. He says that one of the new songs is dedicated to me and my family.

Q: When did Axl left his home?

B: He left home when he was very young, his stepdad used to beat him hard and he even abused him

sexually. This being the main reason for him to be so shy. I think he left Lafayette, im not quite sure, at 14

or 15 years old. Now he is 38 years old.

Q: And he is now discovering maternal love.

B: He has nothing against his mom, the only thing he could not understand is why he did not receive her

maternal protection. This is what he sees now in my relationship with my children. Today he understands

that a mother should be protective and he never felt protected.

Q: And that influenced a lot, right?

B: I think that who we are is aa reflection of how we were raised, how our family behaves at home, how we

relate with our parents. We are a mirror of our family.

The basic level comes from our home, and Axl never had that. That feeling is much more difficult to grow

in an adult's head. We when are growing up we see this exemples in every day life, this love, the kiss

goodnight...he never had that. Therefore, he doesnt know how to show this type of love and this is very

hard for a grown up to handle, right?

Q: And his music reflects this lack of love.

B: Yes, right. Old songs do reflect that, new songs are different.

Q: Is he in touch with his mom?

B: She passed away 5 years ago.

Q: Who lives with him in Malibu?

B: Me and him. My younger son lives with us every now and then aand in my house too.

I own a house in California, too but in another neightboorhood. But its very close to Axl's house.

Q: I feel like you are a housekeeper for him, do you organize everything?

B: (laughs) That is the correct word, coz everyone asks, what do you do??

OK, I am his personal assistant. And I also organize his house, I coordinate the personel. Q: Do you advise

him?

B: I give him my advice whenever he asks. He accpets my opinion very much, you know. He never took it

bad. I have to see the person in every possible angle. You have to see in 360 grades, there is always

something good in a person. So, if he performs any contracts

with the new band, that is his decision. He only asks me what I think about it.

He wants to know if he should do that or not, he asks if he is being fair. He is worried about being fair, he

doesnt like to do anything which is not true. He always wants to do everything right coz he gets worried of

what they may say about him.

He wants everything to be clear. So I think that I influence him pretty much. But at the same time this

worries me, coz im afraid of this resonsibility.

Q: How did you enter into his life?

B: I was the babysitter of Stephanie Seymour's son. She was a Victoria's secret model, this was 11 years

ago.

I started working with Stephanie in February and in May she started going out with Axl Rose. It seems that

they had something before this.

Q: Do you believe in past lives?

B: Yes, i do and Axl believes in them also. As a brazilian i believe in this. I find it impossible for two

persons who never met to get along so well.

When I opened the door and he was there, I felt like I had known him for years.

Q: Do you know what Axl says about Queen?

B: He likes Queen very much, its his favourite band. Freddy Mercury liked Axl very much. Axl even made

a tribute to him the second day of Rock in Rio. Axl is still Brian May's friend. He playes the guitar in one

of the new songs.

Q: So after the breakup you stayed with Axl?

B: He asked me to stay with him when they brokeup. But I was the child's babysitter so I was worried about

him.

He was only two years old and Stephanie was always travelling, she was never at home.

Q: What was the reason for Axl and Stephanie to breakup?

B: Because she used to bring many people at home and Axl found out. He adored her.

She moved to New York and Axl called me to work with him. And I accepted coz between Axl and her, i

was always sure i wanted to be with him, he beats her 100 to 0. Even though he is a man our friendship

is amazing, I really trust him. He is what he says he is, Stephanie was in a certain way with me and in

another with others. He values me much more than her.

Q: Can you talk about his depression?

B: Axl is a person who wants to do everything right. I think he was the man in love that many women

would have wanted to have in their lives.

He was like an enchanted prince. All the things he did for her where the type of things you caan only find

in a romantic book.

Q: So he was an old fashioned lover?

B: Yesss, of course. When they were about to breakup, he went to her house in a white suit, riding a horse

and carring flowers.

The things he did for her can only be read in history books. This does not exist in real life. I think that many

women would have liked to be in her place. I would never have left this man walk away. But as Stephanie

is very beautiful and sexy, she can have any man she wants. She uses men like toys. Have you seen a child

with a new toy? She plays with it and then she doesnt want to play anymore.

I have always told her that she would hurt Axl more than she thinks. Other men that dated her had not

suffered the way Axl did, that is why he suffers so much.

He wanted to do everything right and he thought he was doing everything right.

He took this relationship very seriously. She practically killed him. When the band finished he thought he

would have his family, he would get married and have children.

He thought this would be the second part of his life, he had earned enought money and now he wanted to

dedicate his time to a family.

His dream was to have a family, children, and everything he never had. I think that when I entered into his

life he started realizing that someone cares about him and loves him.

Im a patient person, i trust him and he did not trust himself. Im not a psicologist but he needs someone to

listen to what he has to say and im here for him.

When i have to be his friend im here as his friend and when i have to be his assistant im here as his

assistant. I dont mix things. When i have to be his assistant i leave our friendship behind and i work. He

doesnt take advantage of our relationship.

I respect him as if he was my boss and it becomes an emplyment relation.

Q: Is he happy he played for 200.000 people?

B: His dream was to come back to Brazil. When we first met, our first conversation was about Brazil. He

spoke about the poor people, the "favelas", and how he wanted to build a hospital where everyone could be

treated no matter their condition.

Q: I have the feeling that brazilians liked the new band.

B: Yes, very much, its amazing. We are very surprised, this generation is not so Gnrs and yet they love the

band.

Q: How is the new record going to be?

B: SO great. Im emotionally related to them but i think it will be amazing.

It will be realeased in June or July. They already have 48 songs and the record company is selecting the

material.

Q: Is Axl out of drugs?

B: Totally. I have known him for 10 years and i have worked with him for 7 years and a half and he never

had drugs. He even quit smoking.

Q: Any drinks?

B: Yes, every now and then.

Q: You must have been in touch with people who were addicted to heroin, is it hard to quit all that? B: I

have never seen it.

Axl does not admit it in his house or in his group. Not even smoking is allowed in the studio, never close to

him. You have to go out if you want to smoke. So I have never been around someone who is doing drugs.

Q: Does he have an studio at his Malibu home?

B: Yes, he does.

Q: Werent drugs one of the reasons of his fight with Slash?

B: There wasnt any fight, the problem was that Slash said he had alreaday had Guns n roses records at that

time.

Slash last records were terrible, and Axl wanted to do something more advanced for the new generations.

You cant remain in the same music style you were 15 years ago.

Q: There is an electronic business behind this music.

B: In this current year 2001, music is more electronic but its not all electronic. Slash wanted to stay in the

past... and then there was this problem with drugs.

Axl could never count on Slash coz he never showed up in rehearsals and he was never OK.

Q: Does Axl have a routine nowadays?

B: We have a doctor that tells us what to eat. Axl does gym all day long.

He runs up to 5 miles every two days. His exercises last for about 4 hours.

He doesnt go out much, we go to the cinema coz he likes watching movies very much.

He doesnt like bars.

Q: Does he go to sleep late?

B: According to his grandma he never lived the day very much.

He writes very much at night. He doesnt have a phone or anything that may interrupt him, he is more

creative late at night.

Q: Does his grandma still live?

B: His grandma on his mother's side is still alive. He never met his father.

He thinks that nobody in his family ever protected him. He's got a huge sorrow inside. Her sistes was

abused by his stepfather and his mom continued living with him.

Nobody did anything, not even his grandma.

Q: And what does he like to eat?

B: He eats plenty of healthy food, many fruits, water and salads. He also likes brazilian food.

Q: How old are your children?

B: 24, 23 and 22.

Q: Did you raise your children by yourself?

B: I got divorced 15 years ago so i practically raised them by myself.

Q: Are you a protective mother?

B: Very protective (laughs) I should be that much.

Q: Are you a rocker mom? I can see you have a tattoo.

B: (laughs) I wasnt a hippie. I actually came to the first Rock in Rio to see Queen.

Q: Were you a secretary before moving to the United States?

B: I worked in Quaker, in Itajai, Santa Catarina. I was an executive secretary.

I moved to the US coz the situation in Brazil was very hard aand i was divorced and with three children. I

thought that i wouldnt be able to raise my children the way i wanted to raise them here in Brazil. They were

three little children.

I raised some money and i left by myself leaaving the children with my mom and I have brought them one

by one.

Q: You went there with courage?

B: Right, i sold everything i had so as not to come back. After a year i took one of my children, then the

ohther and finally the other.

Q: You said that everyone is phoning you. What do think about this?

B: I never thought this could happen.

I was translating what Axl said and he suddenly called me to the stage.

I thought he was just going to thank the public. Then he said "Seven years ago.." and i started to choke, i

didnt know anything else.

Then his manager took me to the stage, there he was translating everything wrong as i was didnt know

anything.

It is very hard to translate a person who is talking about you. I was very nrevous, i cant explain what i have

been through thaat moment to face all those people.

Q: What is it that you must always carry in your bag?

B: the cellular phone and the pager. I dont go out if he cant he in touch with me 24 hours a day.

Q: Talk about your loving life.

B: I lived 12 years with the father of my children in Santos. In the last four years of our relationship i didnt

know he had married to another person. It was a great shock.Today he is the owner of Santos Nave, aa

company. I suffered a lot with his family.

I moved to the US and i remarried an american. After six years he said he was not ready to be married and

as he didnt know how to say this to me, he took his stuff, put them in the caar and left.

This was my second separation. I always get in too deep in a relation and i want everything to be ok and

then i suffer a lot.

Now i think i have a goal, either i finish my mission with my children or i dont do anything else.

Im afraid of getting involved with someone again and then get hurt. I have placed a barrier in my loving life

and i have noone. I work and i take care of my children.

Q: Do you spend some time with friends?

B: Axl's friends are my family. The guys in the band call me the BIG MOM.

Q: Do you come to Brazil very often?

B: I visited Brazil six years ago.

Q: What do you think about abortion?

B: Im pro choice, it is necessary in certain situations, are you against it?

Very interesting read btw.

Thank you,was really interesting read all this.......I never imagined that AXL was such sweet and romantic man..... now I love HEM even more......

I always asked to myself who could be the lucky lady whom is shopping with AXL.....Probably this thread gave me a answer,but I need to know for sure......there's anyone who can tell me if this woman is really Beta please?