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I'm begging you two to go read up on Scottish history

It's funny, me and my Dad were talking about how much of an anti-English film Braveheart is last night...some of the stuff I'm reading in this thread makes me damn proud of it

I'm into history and shit as long as there's fighting. That's what i couldnt figure about braveheart. if thats true, why the fucking is Scotland ruled by the Queen and the Tony Blair nowadays????? Fuck it, maybe the movie's bullshit. Good movie tho!!!

Cos the dude who was a descendant of the monarchy in scotland began to rule england as well and thus the two states were brought together. No one won a battle or anything (Otherwise we'd have won obviously ).

Cool, dude. I bet the scots would have won with guys like Braveheart fightin. Like I no shit about history tho so what i don't get it, why the fuck is Scotland so shit now if they didnt get beat. Like Tony Blair rules em and shit and they have to give Scotland money to keep goin and fucked up shit like that.

I'm begging you two to go read up on Scottish history

It's funny, me and my Dad were talking about how much of an anti-English film Braveheart is last night...some of the stuff I'm reading in this thread makes me damn proud of it

I'm into history and shit as long as there's fighting. That's what i couldnt figure about braveheart. if thats true, why the fucking is Scotland ruled by the Queen and the Tony Blair nowadays????? Fuck it, maybe the movie's bullshit. Good movie tho!!!

I'm begging you two to go read up on Scottish history

It's funny, me and my Dad were talking about how much of an anti-English film Braveheart is last night...some of the stuff I'm reading in this thread makes me damn proud of it

I'm into history and shit as long as there's fighting. That's what i couldnt figure about braveheart. if thats true, why the fuck is Scotland ruled by the Queen and Tony Blair nowadays and shit????? Fuck it, maybe the movie's bullshit. Good movie tho!!!

Dude.. your fucking crazy!!! Imagine Seb coming down on ropes during the solo to November Rain and then singing the last part.. fucking amazing idea!

Sorry, but I have to say that idea sucks big time

Cheese on a stick!!!

just cos u didnt think of it. jealous, maybe???????

Yes I'm insanely jealous because I didn't suggest GN'R copy an old Westlife stage trick

Gimme a break

LOL, their called 'westerns' not 'westlifes', Clint Eastwood and shit. LMAO

No, I meant to say Westlife. I meant what you described sounded like something you'd see a cheesy boyband doing

What u talkin about dude. It's called a 'western'. Like a film where they do stunts like that and shit to make it exciting. It's like braveheart but set in USA, kind of like that.

OK, I misunderstood what you meant by the ropes thing. I imagined a different type of ropes 'stunt', I didn't realise you meant a western style thing (yes I fucking know what a western is and Braveheart is NOTHING like a western, jeez...)

Even so, still cheesy as hell

No probs, dude. Glad were on the same page now and stuff! I just noticed like your from Scotland and Braveheart is set there so I thought u might no it. And there's stunts and shit in it. Cool fuckin movie that! I thought it was a fag film with guys dressing in skirts and shit but when I watched it, I was pretty fuckin surprised that it kicked some serious ass. Cool shit right there!

Axl and Seb should be in Braveheart 2 that would fucking rock!!!

Cool shit right there!!!! That would fuckin rock. Come to think of it, Axl wore a skirt in the early 90s for a bit. I thought to myself, WTF is going on with this guy wearing a fuckin skirt??? I think Slash musta beat shit out of him one night cos then he got rid of it. Gnr ain't no fag band!!!! Check out One in a million.

Dude.. your fucking crazy!!! Imagine Seb coming down on ropes during the solo to November Rain and then singing the last part.. fucking amazing idea!

Sorry, but I have to say that idea sucks big time

Cheese on a stick!!!

just cos u didnt think of it. jealous, maybe???????

Yes I'm insanely jealous because I didn't suggest GN'R copy an old Westlife stage trick

Gimme a break

LOL, their called 'westerns' not 'westlifes', Clint Eastwood and shit. LMAO

No, I meant to say Westlife. I meant what you described sounded like something you'd see a cheesy boyband doing

What u talkin about dude. It's called a 'western'. Like a film where they do stunts like that and shit to make it exciting. It's like braveheart but set in USA, kind of like that.

OK, I misunderstood what you meant by the ropes thing. I imagined a different type of ropes 'stunt', I didn't realise you meant a western style thing (yes I fucking know what a western is and Braveheart is NOTHING like a western, jeez...)

Even so, still cheesy as hell

No probs, dude. Glad were on the same page now and stuff! I just noticed like your from Scotland and Braveheart is set there so I thought u might no it. And there's stunts and shit in it. Cool fuckin movie that! I thought it was a fag film with guys dressing in skirts and shit but when I watched it, I was pretty fuckin surprised that it kicked some serious ass. Cool shit right there!

Dude.. your fucking crazy!!! Imagine Seb coming down on ropes during the solo to November Rain and then singing the last part.. fucking amazing idea!

Sorry, but I have to say that idea sucks big time

Cheese on a stick!!!

just cos u didnt think of it. jealous, maybe???????

Yes I'm insanely jealous because I didn't suggest GN'R copy an old Westlife stage trick

Gimme a break

LOL, their called 'westerns' not 'westlifes', Clint Eastwood and shit. LMAO

No, I meant to say Westlife. I meant what you described sounded like something you'd see a cheesy boyband doing

What u talkin about dude. It's called a 'western'. Like a film where they do stunts like that and shit to make it exciting. It's like braveheart but set in USA, kind of like that.

Dude.. your fucking crazy!!! Imagine Seb coming down on ropes during the solo to November Rain and then singing the last part.. fucking amazing idea!

Sorry, but I have to say that idea sucks big time

Cheese on a stick!!!

just cos u didnt think of it. jealous, maybe???????

Yes I'm insanely jealous because I didn't suggest GN'R copy an old Westlife stage trick

Gimme a break

LOL, their called 'westerns' not 'westlifes', Clint Eastwood and shit. LMAO

Dude.. your fucking crazy!!! Imagine Seb coming down on ropes during the solo to November Rain and then singing the last part.. fucking amazing idea!

Sorry, but I have to say that idea sucks big time

Cheese on a stick!!!

just cos u didnt think of it. jealous, maybe???????

Dude.. your fucking crazy!!! Imagine Seb coming down on ropes during the solo to November Rain and then singing the last part.. fucking amazing idea!

It really would be cool!

You know, its actually obvious Seb is an official member of the band.. I asked a few weeks ago about Bumbleclart and they laughed and said it was obvious he was in the band because he played at every show.. well screw those fuckers! Seb has played at most shows too so he must be official... it wont be long before uncle Axl makes him wear a guns n roses T-shirt on stage!..

Man this really is getting like the manson family.. all we need are a few chicks!

That's what im fuckin talkin about, dude! The possibilities are endless, I just think that some people can't quite see it. Gnr is complex fucking music, it's deep and shit. if you aint that big a fan, it's probably difficult to see how AMAZING this could be if Seb becomes a permanent member. trust me, as someone who listens to a fuckin LOT of Gnr (probably more than anyone on here), I understand this fuckin music. this can work.

It sounds awesome.. but think about it.. a band with 2 lead singers=

Yeah but u gotta think how tight axl and seb are. Fuck, they almost seem like brothers to me sometime. this could be the true new Gnr. it would be something so new and amazing. Could be the missing ingredient to put gnr right back up there again.

Wow GnR played the new wembley stadium? who did they play to? was it the construction workers who are still building the place?

Nah it was a proper show. Its like pretty prestigious to be one of the first bands ever to play there. They like relocated the Rolling Stones and bon Jovi to some American Football stadium or something so GnR could have the honour of being first to play there.

what the fuck are you on about? wembley stadium isn't been opened till next year, they played at wembley arena

They rename it or some shit like that. When the Stones were gonna play there is was called Wembley Stadium but then they and Bon Jovi got booted when Gnr was announced and it was called Wembley arena. somethin like that anyway. I think its down to the artist thats playing what they wanna call it.

seriously they are two different venues, the stadium is going to be open by next may to host the FA cup final

You sure, dude? Why would they have the same fuckin name tho?? It's like calling Madison Square Garden and Giants Stadium both Madison Square Garden. U sure about this???

yes its because they are both in the wembley area of london

That's some confusin shit right there. I think that's really confusin. Sorry if i gave bad info to anyone. Shit, i was stoked when the stones got booted for Gnr. Fuck. That's a bummer.

Wow GnR played the new wembley stadium? who did they play to? was it the construction workers who are still building the place?

Nah it was a proper show. Its like pretty prestigious to be one of the first bands ever to play there. They like relocated the Rolling Stones and bon Jovi to some American Football stadium or something so GnR could have the honour of being first to play there.

what the fuck are you on about? wembley stadium isn't been opened till next year, they played at wembley arena

They rename it or some shit like that. When the Stones were gonna play there is was called Wembley Stadium but then they and Bon Jovi got booted when Gnr was announced and it was called Wembley arena. somethin like that anyway. I think its down to the artist thats playing what they wanna call it.

seriously they are two different venues, the stadium is going to be open by next may to host the FA cup final

You sure, dude? Why would they have the same fuckin name tho?? It's like calling Madison Square Garden and Giants Stadium both Madison Square Garden. U sure about this???

Wow GnR played the new wembley stadium? who did they play to? was it the construction workers who are still building the place?

Nah it was a proper show. Its like pretty prestigious to be one of the first bands ever to play there. They like relocated the Rolling Stones and bon Jovi to some American Football stadium or something so GnR could have the honour of being first to play there.

what the fuck are you on about? wembley stadium isn't been opened till next year, they played at wembley arena

They rename it or some shit like that. When the Stones were gonna play there is was called Wembley Stadium but then they and Bon Jovi got booted when Gnr was announced and it was called Wembley arena. somethin like that anyway. I think its down to the artist thats playing what they wanna call it.

Wow GnR played the new wembley stadium? who did they play to? was it the construction workers who are still building the place?

Nah it was a proper show. Its like pretty prestigious to be one of the first bands ever to play there. They like relocated the Rolling Stones and bon Jovi to some American Football stadium or something so GnR could have the honour of being first to play there.

I was thinkin today, Seb Bach has been a big fuckin part of this tour so far. IMHO, his duet with Axl on My Michelle has been one of the musical highpoints of the shows. Also, it's clear that Seb has been a very important behind the scenes type dude in keepin shit organised- maybe even coordinating the secret production of CD if some of the sources on here are true. Now I got my thinkin cap on and I'm pretty sure you guys will agree this is a fuckin cool idea!!! It's obvious really but why the fuck doesn't Axl ask Seb to join Gnr permanently!!!!!???? Think of all the cool shit that would happen and the reasons why it could happen:

1) Seb has done a great fuckin job singing My Michelle. No doubt about that whatsoever.

2) Some of you may have heard this but when Gnr played at the new Wembley Stadium in London earlier in the year (one of the first bands to play there!!!!!!!!), Axl's voice went horse or some shit like that and Seb stepped in and sang a load of GnR songs. This shows he can sing this stuff really good.

3) No more solo spots!!! I no a lot of u cats have been complaining about too many solo spots. Check this: Axl can only sing so much every night. Think about it- where there was a solo spot, Axl goes off for a few minutes and Seb sings, say, Back Of Bitch, Bad Obssession, whatever!!!! More GnR for our bucks!!

4) More possibility for cool duets! Say, Paradise City: Seb sings one verse, Axl sings the next one. Cool shit like that.

5) More NEW Gnr material!!! Seb has a proven track record for writing great songs with Skidrow. His talents can only help take some of the weight off Axl's shoulders. Result: more new gnr material. Maybe I'm jumping the gun abit but let's think post CD. Maybe they could do a double set like UYI. One disc with Axl's shit and one with Seb's!

There's loads more reasons why this is FUCKIN great idea. List any you can think of. I hope management reads this page and gets Axl to suggest it. This could make GnR TWICE as good- dual lead singers! A first in the history of rock!

It's just been merged with another thread. Calm yourself man

Edit- http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=83326

The 'Area 51' rubbish starts on page 4/5.

Well, why would they merge it if it wasn't fucking true???? Think about that for a second, bird brain.

Yo, there was a thread on here earlier by a guy saying maybe Axl is getting the new record made in Area 51 for secrecy and shit. A load of cats on here were trash talking him for it and shit.

I said, just wait, we cant fuckin be sure this thing isnt true because Axl is a crafty S-O-B, I wouldn't put it past him. Look now, where's the fucking thread gone?????????? I think it was too near the truth. Powerful people watch this board. That thread has gone now. Fuck it, this Area 51 shit could very fucking well be true. Dont diss shit, you see, until it's disproven. I'm gonna investigate this further.

As we know its getting very late in the year for CD top be released and some of you are suspecting that it may be released next year or indeed even 2008.

The argument obviously stems from production time and getting the CD artwork finished and printed and then getting the damn thing into the shops. Obviously somewhere along the line we'd hear something. i.e its being printed here and there or "Ive seen the finished CD" etc etc...

Now.. this may seem just a little far fetched but I have a theory that may feasible.

CD could be in mass production in Area 51 in nevada. This is a top secret facility and its one of the most secure places on earth. This is the sort of place where if you leak information you could be shot on site and we all know how determined Axl can be to keep things under wraps. Also they have air bases there and could easily distribute the CD around the world without having to do it by road etc.

I for one have started thinking this may be the most likely scenario.

Dont worry folks... there is still time yet!

You're joking, right?! Please tell me you're joking!!

Your saying its not possible?

Area 51 is military only. Perhaps they develop new weapons there or ar tortuering some "enemy combatants" or drink tea with Alf and Mr. Spock, but they won't let anybody press CDs there.

Plus: Nobody in the GNR wouldn't even THINK about going there because this idea is out of this world.

It's like: Yeah, I think that CD is locked in Fort Knox, you know, it's a very secure place and Axl is afraid to see CD leaked. So perhaps he rent some place in there to let it be produced in there. And they have very complex safety controls in there too, so nobody could steal it.

I think again: Sorry, but couldn't mean this thread seriously!

Yes I agree area51 has generally been used for military but think..if there was a chinese democracy you can guarentee the chinese military would be involved! Also it makes sense because the UFO scene has died down a bit there may be room for CD pressing.. you really cant discount it!!

I agree. Maybe Bush is involved in helping to get this CD pressed secretly. Think about it. He's taken his eye off the ball with quite a few other things recently. Maybe this project is whats taking most of the president's attention at the moment. I fuckin reckon Axl is definitely a Republican and gave a donation to getting Bush reelected. It's payback time now, baby. Can't discount this rumor at this stage.

Haha Yeah, as I think about it. It COULD very well be a big conspiracy. Gypsies and jews could also be involved. And Uzbekhistan!!

Look, spudnuts, this guy is just hypothersizing about things that may mean we get this record before the fucking end of 2006. We all want this thing on our hi-fis as soon as possible. I don't fucking see you coming up with any better ideas just saying shit like this theory is rubbish without it having been disproven. I was always told if you cant say something useful dont say shit. No way is this rumour disproved yet. Axl's one crafty son of a gun- this could be fucking true.

As we know its getting very late in the year for CD top be released and some of you are suspecting that it may be released next year or indeed even 2008.

The argument obviously stems from production time and getting the CD artwork finished and printed and then getting the damn thing into the shops. Obviously somewhere along the line we'd hear something. i.e its being printed here and there or "Ive seen the finished CD" etc etc...

Now.. this may seem just a little far fetched but I have a theory that may feasible.

CD could be in mass production in Area 51 in nevada. This is a top secret facility and its one of the most secure places on earth. This is the sort of place where if you leak information you could be shot on site and we all know how determined Axl can be to keep things under wraps. Also they have air bases there and could easily distribute the CD around the world without having to do it by road etc.

I for one have started thinking this may be the most likely scenario.

Dont worry folks... there is still time yet!

You're joking, right?! Please tell me you're joking!!

Your saying its not possible?

Area 51 is military only. Perhaps they develop new weapons there or ar tortuering some "enemy combatants" or drink tea with Alf and Mr. Spock, but they won't let anybody press CDs there.

Plus: Nobody in the GNR wouldn't even THINK about going there because this idea is out of this world.

It's like: Yeah, I think that CD is locked in Fort Knox, you know, it's a very secure place and Axl is afraid to see CD leaked. So perhaps he rent some place in there to let it be produced in there. And they have very complex safety controls in there too, so nobody could steal it.

I think again: Sorry, but couldn't mean this thread seriously!

Yes I agree area51 has generally been used for military but think..if there was a chinese democracy you can guarentee the chinese military would be involved! Also it makes sense because the UFO scene has died down a bit there may be room for CD pressing.. you really cant discount it!!

I agree. Maybe Bush is involved in helping to get this CD pressed secretly. Think about it. He's taken his eye off the ball with quite a few other things recently. Maybe this project is whats taking most of the president's attention at the moment. I fuckin reckon Axl is definitely a Republican and gave a donation to getting Bush reelected. It's payback time now, baby. Can't discount this rumor at this stage.

I heard John Lennon is doing backing vocals on Catcher In The Rye..

Yea, and Jimmy Hendrix is gonna play lead on IRS... that is why the cd is not done yet..

It's JIMI Hendrix, bugbreath. Anyway the dude's dead so how the fuck is he gonna play with GnR? Dumb bastard, fuck off back to Norway.

Where is your sense of humor idiot.... :xmassrudolph:

How the fuck can Hendrix be on this record? He's dead, has been since 1970. Get with the times, dude. And you spell it JIMI not Jimmy.

I heard John Lennon is doing backing vocals on Catcher In The Rye..

Yea, and Jimmy Hendrix is gonna play lead on IRS... that is why the cd is not done yet..

It's JIMI Hendrix, bugbreath. Anyway the dude's dead so how the fuck is he gonna play with GnR? Dumb bastard, fuck off back to Norway.

As we know its getting very late in the year for CD top be released and some of you are suspecting that it may be released next year or indeed even 2008.

The argument obviously stems from production time and getting the CD artwork finished and printed and then getting the damn thing into the shops. Obviously somewhere along the line we'd hear something. i.e its being printed here and there or "Ive seen the finished CD" etc etc...

Now.. this may seem just a little far fetched but I have a theory that may feasible.

CD could be in mass production in Area 51 in nevada. This is a top secret facility and its one of the most secure places on earth. This is the sort of place where if you leak information you could be shot on site and we all know how determined Axl can be to keep things under wraps. Also they have air bases there and could easily distribute the CD around the world without having to do it by road etc.

I for one have strated thinking this may be the most likely scenario.

Dont worry folks... there is still time yet!

I wouldnt put it fuckin past Axl- he's one crafty son of a bitch when he wants to be.

Let's get the fuck on Google earth and see if we can see any shit going down there today.

Maybe this is why Seb is out on tour with them- he could be tracking the production run in nevada and be liasing with Axl. Axl would only trust a friend as close as Seb to do this.

i think it was a good move too its always good to see old bands stick by each othere

Yeah, man. See what I'm fuckin saying!

Fucking Sebastian Bach, I'm glad Axl got him on tour. He's probably the second best singer in rock (after AXL~!!!!)- don't fuckin bash this guy, he's great.

Long live Sebastian!!!!

Hey guys,

This shit about Sebastian let's make sure it stops the fuck here. Here's a guy that's helped Axl back into the public eye. He deserves more than anyone to be out on this tour with Axl. Who knows where the fuck Axl would be without Seb.

All Seb fans put a comment on here to support Seb.

Rock on Seb!!!!