GeorgeGlass

DJ you're going to get in so much trouble!

Not if they want to be taken seriously by their fanbase.

That ship sailed 9 years ago when he trotted out some guy with a KFC bucket attached to his head to replace a legend.

guy with a KFC bucket is a legend himself

Yeah no.

DJ you're going to get in so much trouble!

Not if they want to be taken seriously by their fanbase.

That ship sailed 9 years ago when he trotted out some guy with a KFC bucket attached to his head to replace a legend.

now thats what i call a quality poster. registered in 06 and only made 4 posts.

Awesome sig pic...

'Pitchy' is what artists use to call a performance 'shitty'. Fergie looked HOT AS HELL, but her vocals were way off.

First things first, Live Era sucks shit....In '99, GNR had been dead for 5 solid years, with a breakup to boot. During the same time, Metallica were actively touring Load and Reload so they were still very on the scene of music. In addition, metalheads are perhaps the most loyal fans out there...in other words, its easier for a rock fan to jump ship to grunge than it is for a metalhead. As a side note, though they took a tremendous amount of heat for Load and Reload, I absolutely love what they bring to the entire Metallica catalogue. They are brilliant albums and you need not have to headbang to enjoy music from Met.

Since '90, there have been exactly ZERO years where Metallica didn't play at least one show. That is why its laughable to compare Metallica to Guns. Metallica were able to battle through, even adapt their music style/experiment and stay largely together while Axl wandered off to LA LA land never to be heard from again. James had many problems of his own but in the SKOM documentary, you could see how much Metallica meant to him, and that he'd do whatever it took to keep the Metallica machine running, including the dismissal of Jason, arguably the second most important member of that band. Axl went off the deep end and hasn't been the same since.

Who is William

A talentless hack who uses autotune.

Did Axl authorize that interview???

I really, really hope we get a reunion!

Me too, especially given the way Fergie just BUTCHERED scom. I couldn't help but think what if that were Axl and Slash up there playing that???

Great pic by the way.

Of course Duff - any step closer to what we all want and need is fine by me.

Nothing wrong with Nirvana. They managed to release more albums on par with each other than GN'R.

AFD is all GN'R is really good for. Everything else spelt downwards spiral. After AFD they need to fix unfinished songs and cover songs for the UYI albums. After that all there was, was a live album, and greatest hits album, topped by the white elephant that was to be Chinese Democracy. What made AFD the success it was, its hard rock edge. It totally rocks. Then came the swimming trunks, and ego, thus the true Axl Rose was born. Shit happens

And it will never be 1987 ever again

See, I get glee off that.

True, it will never be 1987 ever again.

Now in 2011 there's lots of good music being made. It just ain't coming from Axl & Co.

Nor from Slash & Co.

The Rock N' Roll era is over, we can either accept it or bitch about how it's not 1987 anymore and how GN'R didn't become AC/DC and make the same records over and over as you seem to want to do.

Slash's RNFNR collaboration album is quite good with some great singers. The song with Fergie is exceptionally good - almost like she should've been a rockstar but got stuck with those godforsaken other people in her band.

Yes.

If it turns out that some GNR activity is on the horizon (a new album, a multipack rerelase of CD or whatever) I'm not going to listen to them immediately, but if nothing happens, it's good to have 'em. With this band, nobody knows if anything is going to happen some time soon, so it's better to have leaks than nothing at all.

I can understand that perspective, believe me I'm tempted to...But wouldn't it just lead Axl to feel that he has a bunch of selfish, disloyal dicks as fans and why should he do anything for them?

No, it would lead to a standoff between the selfish, disloyal dick fans and the selfish, disloyal dick Axl Rose. How dare we crave more than 1 album in 15 years!!!

Something I've been thinking about recently...

Led Zeppelin. The Rolling Stones. Aerosmith. AC/DC. Black Sabbath. Metallica. Iron Maiden. The Beatles.

What do these bands have in common? They're all some of the most influential acts in rock/metal music.

But I question whether GNR were a truly influential act, or rather the final culmination of the nearly 30 years of rock music that had preceeded them, taking all the best parts from acts such as the above and melding them into the ultimate rock n' roll package.

Certainly in the aftermath of GNRs initial success, rather than a host of imitators, we were faced with a new breed of innovators, such as Nirvana and Pearl Jam. Since GNR, has there been any popular rock act who can lay claim to their style as a major influence? Or did they perfect a style that did not call for imitation or influence? Or were GNR simply unfashionable?

Just to say that I don't see it as a negative trait. I think it's one of the reasons why GNR remain such a big draw in rock music, particularly the old hits - because there hasn't been any band before or since that made music like that. The reasons why nobody imitated or was heavily influenced by GNR are more what I'm interested in.

My thoughts:

GNR came on the scene at the right time, and left at the right time (and for what it's worth, they are still gone, never to be replicated ever again by Axl and whatever it is he's doing now). They'd have been fighting a tremendous uphill battle going up against PJ or Nirvana in the mid 90's.

They were only influential in breaking the hair band trend of the 80's and saving rock and roll. Nothing they did was 'innovative' or 'completely new'. It was extremely good, but more of a breath of fresh air than this 'new' sound.

I would think that after grunge, bands like Rage Against the Machine created a new legacy and style of music (also Linkin Park) as well as NIN. There's been nothing since then though.

GNR are legendary but have no longevity. Even a reunion with new music now probably wouldn't be that big of a deal.

Axl's costumes are a little tough to swallow.. The shorts are bad enough, then mix them with a blazer, mesh shirt or a leather jacket and it looks even more ridiculous. Or even worse, Civil War...

That was probably part of the reason nobody in the band could stand him by the end of that tour. He was such a fucking prima donna crybaby with those short shorts and rants. The media hates him to this day and he deserves every bit of it. He burned all his bridges which is why his comeback hasn't really been a comeback.

I expect one more tour in support of CD II. After that I have no idea.

You're expecting a CDII

At the moment they appear to had issues touring the US. I don't think new music is on the cards.

Axl already has new music leftover from the CD era. It's just a matter of working shit out with the record company.

Why is he the only person that seems to continuously have this problem?

The public cared when CD came out

they did?

My sentiments exactly. Chinese Democracy made zero impact with the masses. Little to no radio play. No video didn't help either.

Only the die hards picked it up, and even they have a lot to say both postive and negative

It would have made a huge impact had it been released in the late 90's/early 00's. The whole NIN sound was still in and Axl would've only been some 6 years removed from GNR. By 2008, Axl's window for any type of comeback had long been shut.

The public cared when CD came out

they did?

I think Axl should take this year to run to Slash with his tail between his legs and beg him to reunite.

ChiDem had the advantage of anticipation. Fans had waited so long for a new GnR album it helped drive sales..

What sales?

I've never gotten the love of it...

The band (IMO) compared to the '90s and 2006-present sounded very sloppy..and not in a good way. The sound mix at RiR3 was way too muddled and sludgy, way too bass heavy, Axl didn't sound or look his best. I guess for sentimental reasons (it being the return of Axl and the first show of 'new' Guns) I can understand the good feelings toward it...But from a purely objective, technical standpoint...It was a very low point in Guns' history.

That isn't a knock at Axl or the band in general. They rock now, they're tight, the mix is great, the guitars and bass all sound tight and the way they should now, and they've gotten better and better since 2006. But as far as Rock in Rio 3--It was their first show, and Axl's first full show in seven years. It's understandable that there would be some foibles. But to hail it as some great concert, even with the nostalgia of it being 10 years ago now, is kind of silly IMO.

If you thought that show in '01 was the low point, just move one year ahead to '02 - THAT was the low point. Not only did he sound horrible, he looked horrible as well. I would take that RIR3 show over ANY '02 show.

A question, for Bootleg savvy people here:

What are the best 2002 shows? I mean the shows where Axl sounds the best vocally, for example.

Is this a trick question? There are NO shows from 2002 where he sounds even remotely good. I was at the Boston show and was embarassed for him - partly because of his voice, and partly because of that freakshow guitarist he trotted out on stage.

Yeah, this was a trick question to make all the assworms crawl out of the woodwork, it worked, you posted, I'm sure your vocals are far superior,

Bucket chooses to present his image to the public, that does not take anything away from his musicianship, why doen't you go do something

productive,Like use crazy glue next time you bring out Mr. Winky, that would keep you from the keyboard with your anonymous hater posts.

There are numerous shows from 2002 floating around,most are quite good imo.

You must be a fan of Mickey Mouse since that's who appeared on stage to sing some Guns tunes that year. His voice was TERRIBLE, and we never got an answer as to why. In contrast, his 09-10 voice is probably as good as the UYI years.

Careful there George, that last sentence actually wasn't a slam against GNR, you're gonna ruin your reputation

I will fully give credit and praise where it's due - Axl's voice is clearly the standout, upfront, best thing about this band and it's because if you close your eyes, it's like the early 90's again. The 2002 shows were a bad, strategic mistake by Axl. I don't need to re-hash my other negative points (which DO carry some merit, even if you don't agree with me).

No, I don't agree with you because your opinions are just that-opinions

and I have my own, the only merit they carry is in your head.

Ok cool, you and 9 other people total can continue believing this is Guns n Roses.

Asian leg

Date City Country Venue Attendance #

12/11/2009 Banqiao Taiwan Taipei County Stadium 18,000[144] *

12/13/2009 Seoul South Korea Olympic Arena 6,000[145]

12/16/2009 Osaka Japan Osaka Dome 36,000[146]

12/19/2009 Tokyo Japan Tokyo Dome 30,000[147] **

01/27/2010 Montreal Canada Bell Centre 15,000[157]

01/28/2010 Toronto Canada Air Canada Centre 21,000[158] Sold Out[159]

03/07/2010 Brasilia Brazil Ginásio Nilson Nelson 13,000[165] Sold Out[166]

03/10/2010 Belo Horizonte Brazil Mineirinho 15,000[167]

03/13/2010 São Paulo Brazil Estádio Palestra Itália 40,000[168] Sold Out[169]

03/16/2010 Porto Alegre Brazil Estacionamento da Fiergs 20,000[170] Sold Out[171]

03/18/2010 Montevideo Uruguay Estadio Centenario 30,000[172]

03/20/2010 Santiago Chile Movistar Arena 15,000[173] Sold Out[173]

03/22/2010 Buenos Aires Argentina Estadio José Amalfitani 45,000[174] Sold Out[175]

03/25/2010 Lima Perú Estadio Monumental 30,000[176]

03/27/2010 Caracas Venezuela Poliedro de Caracas 15,000[177]

03/30/2010 Bogotá Colombia Parque Jaime Duque 20,000[178]

04/01/2010 Quito Ecuador Estadio Olímpico 36,000[179] Sold Out[179]

04/04/2010 Rio de Janeiro Brazil Praça da Apoteose 35,000[180] *

10/13/2010 London United Kingdom The O2 Arena 20,000[231] Sold Out[232]

10/14/2010 London United Kingdom The O2 Arena 20,000[231] Sold Out*

10/17/2010 Birmingham United Kingdom LG Arena 12,000[233] Sold Out[234]

10/18/2010 Manchester United Kingdom M.E.N. Arena 15,000[235] Sold Out[236]

12/01/2010 Townsville Australia Reid Park 16,000[242]

12/04/2010 Sydney Australia ANZ Stadium 40,000[243] V8 Supercars[244]

Date City Country Venue Attendance Notes

12/16/2010 Abu Dhabi UAE Yas Arena 21,000[247] Sold Out[248]

99% was only there to see axl and hear AFD. they either didn't believe this isn't gnr or didn't know

Your post contains a triple or quadruple negative, I can't tell...but you aren't going to see those types of numbers in the US.

A question, for Bootleg savvy people here:

What are the best 2002 shows? I mean the shows where Axl sounds the best vocally, for example.

Is this a trick question? There are NO shows from 2002 where he sounds even remotely good. I was at the Boston show and was embarassed for him - partly because of his voice, and partly because of that freakshow guitarist he trotted out on stage.

Yeah, this was a trick question to make all the assworms crawl out of the woodwork, it worked, you posted, I'm sure your vocals are far superior,

Bucket chooses to present his image to the public, that does not take anything away from his musicianship, why doen't you go do something

productive,Like use crazy glue next time you bring out Mr. Winky, that would keep you from the keyboard with your anonymous hater posts.

There are numerous shows from 2002 floating around,most are quite good imo.

You must be a fan of Mickey Mouse since that's who appeared on stage to sing some Guns tunes that year. His voice was TERRIBLE, and we never got an answer as to why. In contrast, his 09-10 voice is probably as good as the UYI years.

Careful there George, that last sentence actually wasn't a slam against GNR, you're gonna ruin your reputation

I will fully give credit and praise where it's due - Axl's voice is clearly the standout, upfront, best thing about this band and it's because if you close your eyes, it's like the early 90's again. The 2002 shows were a bad, strategic mistake by Axl. I don't need to re-hash my other negative points (which DO carry some merit, even if you don't agree with me).

No, I don't agree with you because your opinions are just that-opinions

and I have my own, the only merit they carry is in your head.

Ok cool, you and 9 other people total can continue believing this is Guns n Roses.

This kind of stuff will never be replicated in this band. Ever.

A question, for Bootleg savvy people here:

What are the best 2002 shows? I mean the shows where Axl sounds the best vocally, for example.

Is this a trick question? There are NO shows from 2002 where he sounds even remotely good. I was at the Boston show and was embarassed for him - partly because of his voice, and partly because of that freakshow guitarist he trotted out on stage.

Yeah, this was a trick question to make all the assworms crawl out of the woodwork, it worked, you posted, I'm sure your vocals are far superior,

Bucket chooses to present his image to the public, that does not take anything away from his musicianship, why doen't you go do something

productive,Like use crazy glue next time you bring out Mr. Winky, that would keep you from the keyboard with your anonymous hater posts.

There are numerous shows from 2002 floating around,most are quite good imo.

You must be a fan of Mickey Mouse since that's who appeared on stage to sing some Guns tunes that year. His voice was TERRIBLE, and we never got an answer as to why. In contrast, his 09-10 voice is probably as good as the UYI years.

Careful there George, that last sentence actually wasn't a slam against GNR, you're gonna ruin your reputation

I will fully give credit and praise where it's due - Axl's voice is clearly the standout, upfront, best thing about this band and it's because if you close your eyes, it's like the early 90's again. The 2002 shows were a bad, strategic mistake by Axl. I don't need to re-hash my other negative points (which DO carry some merit, even if you don't agree with me).

A question, for Bootleg savvy people here:

What are the best 2002 shows? I mean the shows where Axl sounds the best vocally, for example.

Is this a trick question? There are NO shows from 2002 where he sounds even remotely good. I was at the Boston show and was embarassed for him - partly because of his voice, and partly because of that freakshow guitarist he trotted out on stage.

Yeah, this was a trick question to make all the assworms crawl out of the woodwork, it worked, you posted, I'm sure your vocals are far superior,

Bucket chooses to present his image to the public, that does not take anything away from his musicianship, why doen't you go do something

productive,Like use crazy glue next time you bring out Mr. Winky, that would keep you from the keyboard with your anonymous hater posts.

There are numerous shows from 2002 floating around,most are quite good imo.

You must be a fan of Mickey Mouse since that's who appeared on stage to sing some Guns tunes that year. His voice was TERRIBLE, and we never got an answer as to why. In contrast, his 09-10 voice is probably as good as the UYI years.

A question, for Bootleg savvy people here:

What are the best 2002 shows? I mean the shows where Axl sounds the best vocally, for example.

Is this a trick question? There are NO shows from 2002 where he sounds even remotely good. I was at the Boston show and was embarassed for him - partly because of his voice, and partly because of that freakshow guitarist he trotted out on stage.

Well, since there's a bunch of cupcake-filled topics, I'll start an actual serious one.

Since we are now in 2011. Where or when do you think or insist GNR should play?

Since the only unconfirmed possible 2011 ssow is Rock In Rio, what else do you people think will happen?

Anywhere but the U.S........... Can't see them playing here unless it is some select festivals where they are not the only draw..........

Axl has too much pride to play to 5,000 people in a half filled arena in the US. He needs to go back to Europe where they still think this is guns n roses, especially asia. They probably think ashba is slash.