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On 1/25/2024 at 7:26 PM, SoulMonster said:

I know you didn't ask me, but I got curious and looked into it. 

This list shows the most expensive music videos: List of most expensive music videos - Wikipedia

As you can see, Estranged cost about 10 mio in today's money. Rammstein isn't on the list, but in this thread you can see someone put it at 6 mio: 

 

I don't know how reliable that source is, though.

Still, if we trust it then when accounting for inflation, Estranged was more expensive than Deutschland. 

Still, the argument doesn't makes sense, cherry-picking the most expensive video created in recent times will not refute the argument that videos are much less important for artists now than they were back in the days of MTV. You'd have to compare average expenditure per artist on music videos, per their total budgets. I would be extremely surprised if artists don't typically spend less on videos today than in the 80s and 90s when videos were one of the main sources of getting new fans. 

Yeah, I also noticed that Reddit post. Everybody can make up those kind of numbers, well almost everybody but that jackass here who claimed that he knows what the budget was

6 hours ago, DingBat said:

Look at the time, money, and effort, that went into Rammstein’s Deutschland, it’s more epic and expensive than any video Guns N Roses ever did at the height of the MTV era and it came out 4 years ago (It currently has 351M views). Do you think they made it just for shits and giggles? So someone can listen to it through their stereo at home? And they can throw millions of dollars down the toilet?.

Please tell us the budget of the Deutschland video from real and reliable source?

Must be the one of the biggest gigs of 2011, never seen this 

On 12/15/2023 at 4:45 PM, Sweersa said:

I just ordered two of the Japanese Perhaps CD singles. 

From cdjapan?

33 minutes ago, gavgnr said:

I swear it’s ‘the monsters will kill me’

The monsters can't kill me
The monsters can't kill me
The monsters can't help me
The monsters can't get mе

Got the cd box for 83 euros from record store’s pricing error on Black Friday. With that price it’s pretty ok

Wondering what biggest ass kisser Jarmo thinks all about this

Can they finally get rid of the whole Team Brazil

https://youtu.be/IxiCwqZtDeE?si=ZARKWFEfCAXW3UzW
 

This is one of the greatest performances of Rocket Queen I’ve seen

3 hours ago, LunsJail said:

Blu-Ray is still a thing?

DVD and Blu-ray Still Generating $1.34 Billion in Annual Sales in U.S alone.

5 hours ago, DoMw94 said:

It's 2023, it's more likely to see a Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney+ or Apple TV release. Physical media is dying. The only people that would buy a Blu Ray would be us

DVD and Blu-ray Still Generating $1.34 Billion in Annual Sales in U.S alone.

Whiners should go and try to take that many gigs a year at their 60s

This and Gilby’s Pawnshop Guitars are easily the best solo efforts. Mother Theresa is unbelievable song

25 minutes ago, F*ck Fear said:

That show suffered from a terrible mix. Would love to hear a better one.

Here’s PC, only song I did found https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12P411w7NX/

RIR3 Japanese broadcast has far better audio mix, it was on YouTube years ago and on dimeadozen but surprisingly disappeared during the TB’s YouTube madness

3 hours ago, GNR78 said:

 

Melissa Reese is not on CD;

That’s typo, He means Josh Freese

9 hours ago, Amir said:

@colonizedmind where is that from?

Source: just trust me bro 

”2002 demos began to circulate” yeah sure, we got only crappy radio rip of IRS in 2003

I’m not a crook

2 hours ago, gavgnr said:

Check out the first 20 seconds

 

Sounds interesting, but this must be the best version of Nightrain ever https://youtu.be/esIl2LRrDkM

15 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

People should keep in mind that the Village sessions were just a screenshot of that time. Most of the work there is pre-Bucket, but it doesn't have This I Love or even Oh My God (in any kind of new mix). The other part post-Bucket has very early demos of some songs, one of them (Shacklers) in a proto-form. 

It's very possible that the same sessions (from 2002/03) that had Scraped, maybe TIL and a later version of Shacklers also had The General, which implies to me that are several other tracks that we may not know the titles. Axl recorded vocals by that time or in 2004/05. After Universal stopped the funding, I think Axl had a lot of work at his home studio too, which is undocumented. 

Then, he (and Caram) prioritized work on Shacklers, Scraped, TIL and Better over other more structured instrumental tracks like Atlas, Quicksong, Perhaps, Hardskool, Silkworms/Absurd. Why? We don't know, but seems like they shuffled the CD tracklist a bit. Still, if he worked on all this (including The General), why would anyone think he ONLY have those 1999/00 semi-finished tracks on his basket, with no additional work in any of the instrumentals and not a single new track from Buckethead or even the rest of the band after that? 

Also, I believe the leaks influenced CD tracklist and are still influencing the later releases of Absurd, Hard Skool and (maybe) Perhaps. 

Occam's Razor: "the simplest explanation is preferable to one that is more complex". To me, the skepticism about the lack of releases seems to overshadow the fact that everyone from the band, mgmt and press stated that there were a lot of recording during all those years.

Exactly, band used 15 studios during production. Village was just one of them.

15 hours ago, Arnuld said:

IWho does this?! This would be like if Metallica had continued to work on I Disappear after it was already officially released for MI2. I can’t think of any other artist ever doing this. 

Yeah, like Unforgiven 1,2,3 

9 hours ago, PatrickS77 said:

The public still doesn't give much shit about keyboard players…no one gives a shit about Dizzy Reed.

You really think that true music enthusiasts cares one bit what the public or casual concert goers think about anything? Why do you care what the public thinks about things? That’s fucking sad 😂

now go listen the Spotify top 40 with the public.

3 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said:

Not sure, how Slash would think about it, because in his mind he's not needed and only there because Axl insisted on it, but for the public, for sure. Because then he would have been there from the beginning, as far as the public is concerned. But then again, who gives a shit about the keyboard player in a rock band? 

What the fuck has your sad little trolling to do with this thread? There’s a gig in Rome tonight.