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looks like clothing and setlist are very limited in this leg of the tour
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Here's my first video from the concert
1- This I Love ( Solo to the end ) -
That's amazing quality! How much of the concert were you able to record?
I have also Scom (solo to the end)
Full Better and Full PC
I will share those later
all in 720p
I'm glad that my first 3 videos had 2.000 viewers in less than a day
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GN'R hit th
Bumble has nice stack of guitars he used 2 doublenecks one gold one black. Guess he really likes french Vigier. Ashba has customized Les Pauls with very nice looks Richard is (as a guitarist myself) my favorite player of all times maybe after steve vai. He has the best equipment, the best technique and the coolest moves on stage. Bumble also has good skills but he stands out more with his loyalty to his fans. Ashba is more into looks like slash was. He plays nice but not as skilled as bumble or richard. I don't think he has slash's soul but he is as cool as him for sure. Ashba solo was also too easy to play. He can try a little more challenging stuff. He had a nice Levy's strap.
As a guitar player you should know that Bumble is the best guitarist(By FAAARR) that GnR has ever had in terms of technicality. Also Steve Vai, not that great.
The day Richard.....or hell even Bucket can play this...
...Thats the day i say the they are even close to Ron's technical ability.everyones entitled to their opinion
ron is also extremely skilled, but compared to richard, he is like a guitar nerd or studio rat to me.
surely ron is the anchor point gn'r needed for years but richard is the unstable rockstar that fits gn'r image better. (image created by slash)
so they are both good in different ways. I'd choose richard over any other gn'r guitarist cuz he is so fu*kin mad on stage ! a real entertainer !
in any case the winner is axl. cuz he is the one who wants gn'r fans to have different favorite players to avoid one standing out too much and become indispensable for gn'r like slash did.
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Okay, so another show over. Oslo was absolutely amazing. The crowd was a bit better than in Bergen, and the band was super tight. I don't mind the sound problems, why should I? It got fixed in a few seconds, have people really that little patience? The setlist was the same as in Bergen. ersonally I'd like to hear some other songs, as I'm going to more than one show. But again, most people are going to one, so can't blame anyone for that. Maybe they'll throw in some other songs in Helsinki tomorrow
They amazed me once again. What a good band. Axl's voice is perfect, I can't believe how great he's singing. This I Love tells it all. Richard and Ron recognized me and my friend, and pointed at us from the stage, which was cool. And in the middle of the show one in the crew came down and gave us two of DJ's plectrums 'cause he'd remembered us from Bergen. God, I'm so happy
If this wasn't enough, we managed to walk into Axl, Richard, DJ and Ron on the street near their hotel. Tommy was there too for a second, but he dissapeared before anyone got to say anything to him. (I knew I should've stopped him that day after the rehearsal, but I was in shock...) Axl was so nice to everyone, taking his time to sign, talk and take some pictures. Talked a bit to Ron before he went inside. He even gave me this big hug and said "So you're here too?" He's awesome. Talked a bit to DJ and Richard, got my Sixx:a.m. signed.. And Richard said outloud "I'm NOT signing a Sixx:a.m. record" and laughed. Had CD for him of course. He was so nice, remembered that we'd stayed at exactly the same place both in Oslo and Bergen. Oh well, you get the place you want as long as you get in line early enough
I could tell forever.. But I'll stop for now. I'm off to see the city Helsinki. Tomorrow another show, can't wait
Were you first in line at entrance 5? I saw a crew member giving something to a girl right of me, standing in front in that "corner" (I was front row center of the stage). Recognized her from outside, that's why I ask
Amazing show by the way. Axl sounded frickin' fantastic!
Yeah, that's me! Was in line from 10:30 that morning, god He gave two pics to me and my friend, as they recognized us from Bergen.
Now we're having a night out (I love Helsinki btw) And tomorrow, another gnr show!!!! Can't wait
in my This I Love recording Ashba points out something or someone maybe that was you ... check it
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Nice post, SL138.
Just two comments.
1. Those balloons were condoms
2. I was front row, one person from the absolute center. I heard Axl throughout the whole concert really good, amazed by how good he sounded. However, the guitars were way too low, at least in the beginning! So, don't really agree with you on the sound mix in the first row.
1. I didnt know condoms could get that big =) I was suspicious of that. A balloon without any color ? that just cant be true=)
2. yes you are right. sound can be good in the first row but only if you are right in front of the speakers which were either in the middle or on the far left or right.
so if you are on the sides of axls catwalk there are dead spots.
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Here's my review of the concert. (btw im not a newbie as it says in my profile :-) Im here since 99 but I was banned more than a year ago for some reason no explanation whatsoever)
Trip to Oslo was worth every penny. Im very satisfied with this concert. absolutely amazing. I will talk a little more about the production stuff since its my area and then about the songs.
Queue staterd to form around 5pm. Which was very strange for me cuz we usually arrive very early in the morning or the night before with a pile of food and beverage
Security was absolutely perfect. I also worked myself as coordinator of security in some concerts. So I hid my camera very well(and succeeded). I've been to more than 200 shows of this size and they were the best so far. Congrats to ProSec !
Danko Jones was on stage exactly at 19:30 and off at exactly 20:32. Very punctual and good show !. When he played the venue was only %40 full
After danko preps for gn'r started. At that time I was in the first row right next to gn'r cameraman on the right side. People started to play with some sort of balloons behind us it was very funny.
Then I saw fernando talking to head of security. Then another guy from the crew came in and told the security that the show was going to start with a lot fireworks and told them not to stay too close to the stage.
Spotlightning guys climbed on the roof though job !. It was around 21:20. There was some problems with the (lyrics flow)screen on the right side apparently, they changed it 3 times. Same 4:3 screens from 2006. Need to upgrade maybe ??
GN'R hit the stage at 22:02. Pretty acceptable 1 hour delay compared to other GN'R concerts.
The place was %70 full so my guess would be 7000 people.
Nice opening with fireworks, crew congratulated each other since there were no accidents. They put a lot of attention on the opening scene.
Axl was on the stage a little earlier than the explosion. He could have appeared at the same time behind the smoke curtain. that wd be cooler.
Throughout the whole show the pyros and the fireworks were always late ! This really fucks up the rythm.
Also the same problem with the giant led panel behind frank. There was at least 400ms delay. Didn't look so good !
However other led curtains were really nice. They used 4 transparent curtains 2 on each side and moving gobo lights behind them.
Spiral lightning truss from the asian leg was better though. The stage was exactly 1.8 meters high.
In the first row the sound mix was horrible. There was too much frank and very little axl. One can easily think that axls voice is f*d up but thats not true. Front row speakers were too few. I was in a dead spot. I could hear side filler speakers that were on the stage.
So, imo, they need better front of house engineering. Then I went back a little behind like in the 6-7th row and more in the middle. Sound was much better at that spot. So be careful with where you stand ! Unless you wanna see them sweat from upclose the first row isn't good.
They unmounted the opening scene fireworks launchers right after Mr. Brownstone. Axl was using the same shure wireless microphone (58) and his ear canal monitors looked like shure 530's to me. His red mic stand was a little crooked because of all the throwing I guess =)
He threw the stand right into richard/bumble 's amp cabin stack. Also they have new mesa boogies now which is nice. Glad the cabinets weren't mic'ed from the front. Otherwise Axl could have destroyed the setup with his mic stand.
Bumble has nice stack of guitars he used 2 doublenecks one gold one black. Guess he really likes french Vigier. Ashba has customized Les Pauls with very nice looks. Richard is (as a guitarist myself) my favorite player of all times maybe after steve vai. He has the best equipment, the best technique and the coolest moves on stage. Bumble also has good skills but he stands out more with his loyalty to his fans. Ashba is more into looks like slash was. He plays nice but not as skilled as bumble or richard. I don't think he has slash's soul but he is as cool as him for sure. Ashba solo was also too easy to play. He can try a little more challenging stuff. He had a nice Levy's strap.
While axl is still trying hard to fill in slashs spot with 3 unique and amazing players, chris gets forgotten in the background ! I wish we could see more of him. Cuz im sure he is amazing, he should stand out more and definitely put out a solo. Frank and Tommy were the funniest. Can't forget tommys plays with axl and franks never-ending drum attack at the end of november rain which made axl laugh a lot(you will get to see this in one of my recordings). Axl and Dizzy used 2 different pianos both baldwin and hid under franks drums. Axl's one had mirrored coating. The lyric flow screen in front of Axl was the biggest pain in the ass. Caused a lot of problems. New 2010 monitors are also good and have some space to step on. While axl richard and ashba used this a lot, Bumble seemed afraid of stepping on it and as far as I remember he never did. There was a problem with Axl's wireless reception quality only on the left part of the stage. It was getting distorted and thinner everytime he went to the left end. In general security was 10/10, lightning 8/10, pyro and effects 7/10, sound 7/10, stage design and modularity 8/10
Let me go more about the songs and performance
The setlist could have been better maybe with a short acoustic part. I missed "patience". Crowd was soo boring in CD songs. Nodoby around me knew the lyrics. Especially in madagascar it was a complete silence as if someone died.
Highlights were: WTTJ, This I love, NRain, ycbm, scom, nightrain, pc . The crowd had the most fun in those songs as you can guess. Well everybody has a different perfect setlist. Can't discuss too much about it.
Axl was always smiling during wttj. (who said he is sad ? not at all ) It's so easy/mr brownstone were also very nice. At the end of Sorry the mix went too noisy. But it is nice to hear it live. Rocket queen is maybe in my top 5 gnr songs. It sounded just OK. It could have been stronger.
Fortus solo was better in 2006. He is capable of doing everything. At the beginning of the concert he was barely walking straight on stage. He looked like a little too drunk like slash in indiana. At some point I was afraid he was gonna fall off the stage. His looks and smiles were really weird.
It was like the father bumble and his two funny naughty kids named ashba and richard. This I Love was also amazing. Nice solo from ashba. Axl was late for singing at the beginnig. He said "I can't hear shit !" and they started over. Live and let die didn't have real pyro but just the sound of it. Not a genius idea ! . Sound problem at the begining of dizzy solo but fixed in 30 seconds. SoD was also only OK like rqueen. Ycbm was amazing Axl tore his vocal cords apart. He really does like singing this one. But after that he couldn't turn the sharp edges at the end of scom which was also very nice in overall. November rain was one of my favorites from this concert. Solos were perfect and at the end it turned into a comedy show. Bumble was looking so cool during the solo but then when frank continued after the regular ending Ron became a little stressed and Axl had the most fun. After a little break for Axl he appered again on stage with his white KOHD hat. He was looking distracted during the whole song. He lost his concentration and sang it like he was in a dream. Nightrain was perfect and punchy they all had the best attitude on it. Before the encore they lit a flashlight behind franks drum. Nice idea to make the crowd cheer. They came back with better and maddy. Axls voice was really tired at this point and he sang the middle part of better in a lower register. However he tried his best, he didn't give up and his best was enough. Madagascar was also nicely done but the crowd started leaving the venue from behind maybe because it was 00:00
End of the show with a classic PC axl stayed a little too long in his oxygen room during the solo. Confettis were only red this time. No blue or white ones. I love PC, I love the show effects and stuff. As always the ending was my favorite moment.
All in all Axl is much better than 2006 ! The band is more like a family now. They were happy to be there, happy to perform and we all felt this. Nice show. I wd separately give
CHINESE DEMOCRACY 8/10 - WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE 10/10 - ITS SO EASY 9/10 - MR BROWNSTONE 8/10 - SORRY 7/10 - FORTUS SOLO 7/10 - THIS I LOVE 9/10
LIVE AND LET DIE 7/10 - ROCKET QUEEN 7/10 - DIZZY SOLO 7/10 - STREET OF DREAMS 7/10 - BAND JAM 8/10 - YOU COULD BE MINE 10/10 - ASHBA SOLO 6/10
SCOM 8/10 - PIANO SOLO 7/10 - NOVEMBER RAIN 10/10 - BBF SOLO 8/10 - KOHD 7/10 - NIGHTRAIN 9/10 - MADDY 6/10 - BETTER 7/10 - PC 10/10
I want to share some of my photos and of course...
the videos that I promised in 720p !
3rd one November Rain solo will make you shit your pants. Best bootleg I have ever recorded. Watch many times and you will see different things. All players in the same shot. Enjoy ! ! !
1- This I Love ( Solo to the end ) -
2- Rocket Queen ( Full ) -
3- November Rain ( Solo to the end ) AMAZING !! -
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ok guys guess I managed to solve the codec issues. original size is pretty big so I had to compress it. still in HD though
Here's my first video from the concert
1- This I Love ( Solo to the end ) -
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waiting for a turkey/greece show at the end of september !
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Guys, I just came back from Oslo. Long road + 2 days of non-stop sightseeing I'm extremely tired.
I have the most amazing photos and videos that will make you shit your pants. Shitting is guaranteed so you better put on some baby wipes.
Anybody wants a 720p Rocket Queen !???
It was a big big pain in the ass to be able to shoot something. I wish they released some video material all these long years.
The security was absolutely amazing and they were very strict about cameras, however they should have checked my ****
So this is going to be my first photo from the venue.
I will comeback with a long review a lot of remarks and amazing media as soon as I can.
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Will be there! Just arrived at my hotel in Oslo.. Thinking of going out, but don't know any places. Anyone know where the band are staying? If so, PM me pretty please
How was the Bergen concert?
Great! Just wrote about it in the Bergen thread It was perfect..
Anyoe know where they're staying? Weren't they at Grand last time?
they were at grand in UYI tour I guess.
you do know UYI tour was in 1993?
last time was in 2006
yes of course
but in 2006 I believe they stayed in radisson sas
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Is this from yesterday?
Who said " Physically he looks like a sad man"? He looks gorgeous!!!!
and he is also helping his mom carrying the luggage
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gnr will tour europe this september. this is just a guess. I cant cite any news from a reliable source
but I can say that doing reading festivals will only be profitable if they tour the rest of the europe.
Im guessing they are paid soo much for reading that they preferred cancelling half of the first leg of the european tour and move it to september.
because rigs of those festivals are way too expensive for just two dates.
anyways cross ur fingers
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Will be there! Just arrived at my hotel in Oslo.. Thinking of going out, but don't know any places. Anyone know where the band are staying? If so, PM me pretty please
if your thinking about going out, check out elm street or garage. Elm street is pretty close to the main street karl johan so is garage as well..
Okay, thanks! What age is it?
20
there is a htgth preshow meeting in elm street tomorrow around 4pm
maybe we can all meet there and then go to the concert hall
but I think its better if we meet earlier
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Will be there! Just arrived at my hotel in Oslo.. Thinking of going out, but don't know any places. Anyone know where the band are staying? If so, PM me pretty please
How was the Bergen concert?
Great! Just wrote about it in the Bergen thread It was perfect..
Anyoe know where they're staying? Weren't they at Grand last time?
they were at grand in UYI tour I guess.
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At least their can be no excuse for not being on time tomorrow night if they are there already.
and it will cause less problem if they are late
cuz its the captial city(with more transportation) and the concert hall is right in the middle of everything.
does anybody know if they are staying in radisson sas hotel ? its right next to the concert hall.
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if there is discussions about throwing shit to axl already at reading
I cant wait to see how will it all end..
probably with a mic smashed on the floor that some will believe it was a gunshot or a bomb =)
anyways I hope eveything will turn out just fine with some high quality footage in our hands
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Is that 77 & 84 Euro? That seems kind of steep, is this a GNR only show or part of a festival?
it is GN'R only.
but Norway is the richest country in the world with the highest HDI rate as far as I know.
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REVIEW in page 15 !!
some of my photos and videos...
1- This I Love ( Solo to the end ) -
2- Rocket Queen ( Full ) -
3- November Rain ( Solo to the end ) AMAZING !! -
INTRO
1 CHINESE DEMOCRACY
2 WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE
3 ITS SO EASY
4 MR BROWNSTONE
5 SORRY
6 FORTUS SOLO
7 THIS I LOVE
8 LIVE AND LET DIE
9 ROCKET QUEEN
10 DIZZY SOLO
11 STREET OF DREAMS
12 BAND JAM
13 YOU COULD BE MINE
14 ASHBA SOLO
15 SCOM
16 PIANO SOLO
17 NOVEMBER RAIN
18 BBF SOLO
19 KOHD
20 NIGHTRAIN
21 MADDY
22 BETTER
23 PC
Some info about the arena:
It's located right in the center of Oslo. Next to the main train station. 20 years old building.
Shaped like a roman amphitheater. Previously hosted many recognized artists also Eurovision song contest in 96
Holds up to 10500 people. Though I expect around 8500 tomorrow.
Tickets cost:
77€ standing
84€ seated 1st floor
77€ seated 2nd floor
GN'R played there twice in 2006.
Here's a look from outside
http://upload.wikime...lo_Spektrum.jpg
And from inside
http://www.woodstock...8x1t5A7c15D.jpg
I guess I will be the only fan from Turkey tomorroy. If there's anybody else just send me a message.
My plane lands in oslo around 10 so I will be in the queue only after 13.
Too bad they didn't bring the full stage to Europe, it wasn't feasible for just a short leg planned at the last minute.
ps.thanks for correcting my date error =)
Full stage will probably be here in the second leg. I miss the big spiral moving lightning equipment on top of the stage already.
We can expect Twat instead of Rocket Queen tomorrow in a similar setlist as yesterday taking about 2 hours
I won't be able to twit or anything cuz I have no such equipment. But I hope to bring you back some HD video footage on 3rd of June at night
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- It's well known that Guns N' Roses starts their concerts late so nobody should be surprised. (...)
Then stop bitching so much about it, fool.
yep but still they have to defend themselves for noob gunners
anyways theres no chance of axl being late at reading cuz the punishment for that is a thousand times bigger than a small venue like in bergen.
Happy 25th Birthday Guns N Roses
in 2010
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I was just about to open this topic.
Congrats GNR.
we are lucky we still have a band that tours and writes new material
and not just with crappy recurring elements but total new stuff.
today im proud to be a gnr fan.
I hope they will also enter RnR hall of fame. And that day we may have a chance to see axl and others in the same room again.