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To me (only one guys opinion obviously!) but it seems like these are "questionable recordings", I always thought that they weren't GNR. Does anyone know ,was there ever any real info about those two tracks or any proof that it's actually GNR ? They sound different than all the other demo recordings and I know they surfaced quite a bit later than the other demos that have been circulating since the 80's and 90's . Do you have an opinion Marc, is that GNR playing on those tracks ?

That image is from the cover of the second Rock N Roll comic book of Guns . It was called Guns N Roses '91 which is why Matt's in the picture instead of Steven.

Various reasons . Slash had his heart issues around then, he was drinking extremely heavily after he left Guns (even more than normal compared to him). Plus Rod had a heroin problem at the time . In his book he also said he was being taken advantage of by Jerry Heller (former N.W.A manager) at the time, who was also his manager after leaving Guns. Seems like it was a bunch of factors that contributed to this lineup not working for long.

I may be totally wrong but I always thought MTV might've filmed the CBGB show . I know the first place I saw a snippet of it was at the end of MTV's GNR Rockumentary . They played a part of it as the credits rolled . MTV also used a quick snippet of One in A million during a story (on Mtv News I think) about how GNR and Sebastian Bach (or his T'shirt atleast) were in trouble for being insensitive to homosexuals. For those reasons I always assumed MTV owned the footage.

Marc

You told us before that you haven't spoken to Izzy much after you asked him to do interviews for the Reckless Road book and he stopped responding to you, I was just wondering if you got to speak to him at all last night ?

I always thought it was a pretty cool song but I don't believe it was ever intended as a Use Your Illusion song or is a "true" illusion outtake . I'm not even sure if the whole band ever played it. From what Axl said on one of the online chats, it seems like it was pretty much just a showcase for West Arkeen to show how well he could play guitar. I like all the outtake songs from that "Illusion" outtake cd and think they could've definitely done something more with Bring It back Home, Crash Diet, Just Another Sunday but seriously doubt Axl would resurrect any of those now. I remember buying that cd even before the actual Illusion albums came out ( it was just great to have some new songs before the album!!), so you'd have to figure AXl would be rather desperate to dig up songs from a bootleg that's been circulating for 20 years now. I think they were left off for a reason, either because they were meant to be West songs (for a solo project?) or because it was just AXl f**king around with his friend on a few tracks and having fun, nothing so serious. All that being said I'd still love to know the true origins and intentions for the songs on that tape, Axl was pretty vague in his description. I'd listen to a remake if Axl did work on them some more though, I just don't see it.

I saw one of the Axl cards before a long time ago on ebay . The person said that the cards were inside Axl's house (during the Illusions era) for people to grab by the door when they left . He claims he was there to do work on the house and grabbed one for himself upon leaving . That being said, don't know if there's ANY truth to that at all !

His card didn't have the hole punched in the upper left corner though, otherwise it was exactly the same.

I am working on a Slash documentary and I'm sure there will be some of that in it.

Thanks for the quick response Marc ! That's the first I've heard of the documentary, good luck with it, don't know how far on down the road that'll be but I can't wait to see that ! When do the pre orders start?

You obviously have such a treasure trove of priceless material concerning GNR but it will definitely be great to hear a little more of the beginnings of Slash as a guitar player and performer pre gnr. As far as I know you're the only one to document his start and pre GNR material, or atleast the only person who has such a thorough experience and archive of his early music. Your insight and voice concerning the beginning of Slash/GNR is definitely the most trustworthy and interesting as far as I'm concerned, can't thank you enough for what you've done to contribute to the band and to the fans over the years. The idea of you doing a documentary....

Hope you'll talk in the documentary a little about his quick stint in Black Sheep .I'm also very curious as to how he sounded with them, was the style similar to how he played in GNR or was it a totally different feel?

And I don't mean to be a greedy question hog but I've heard both Slash and Duff say in interviews before ( I'm paraphrasing) that they've never really been big on going back and listening/watching old GNR tapes . Just curious, do Axl and the other guys have copies of the recordings you made over the years ?

The Slash documentary is going to be a film and I'm only helping out on it. Its not my project. I will be talking in it. Slash's was able to play the Paul Gilbert licks when he was in Blacksheep but it was not really his style. Slash and Duff have never asked to look at any of the old stuff but I'm sure one day Duff will ask. I did make Axl a copy of all my Videos from 1986 and maybe a few from 1987 at the time I recorded them and as far as I know he still has them. Del James also has a copy of all my audio and Video that I made for him in 1994 while he was working on his GNR book. So Yes Axl has copies of all my old stuff.

Thanks again Marc for all of the info !! Sorry to hear the documentary isn't yours but will still definitely look forward to it. It's great to hear that you also have some 1987 shows on video. That's been one of the "missing link" type items I've always wanted as a GNR collector. There are so many great 87 shows on audio that have been circulating forever but I've always been frustrated and wondered why there are no 87 videos circulating . Thanks to you we even have some 86 videos but as far as I know the only live 87 video clips are from the snippets in that Night in the Jungle special. It must be great stuff, I can now hold out a little hope that maybe one of these days we'll get to see some type of 1987 footage, they were just blistering during their sets in that year !

I am working on a Slash documentary and I'm sure there will be some of that in it.

Thanks for the quick response Marc ! That's the first I've heard of the documentary, good luck with it, don't know how far on down the road that'll be but I can't wait to see that ! When do the pre orders start?

You obviously have such a treasure trove of priceless material concerning GNR but it will definitely be great to hear a little more of the beginnings of Slash as a guitar player and performer pre gnr. As far as I know you're the only one to document his start and pre GNR material, or atleast the only person who has such a thorough experience and archive of his early music. Your insight and voice concerning the beginning of Slash/GNR is definitely the most trustworthy and interesting as far as I'm concerned, can't thank you enough for what you've done to contribute to the band and to the fans over the years. The idea of you doing a documentary....

Hope you'll talk in the documentary a little about his quick stint in Black Sheep .I'm also very curious as to how he sounded with them, was the style similar to how he played in GNR or was it a totally different feel?

And I don't mean to be a greedy question hog but I've heard both Slash and Duff say in interviews before ( I'm paraphrasing) that they've never really been big on going back and listening/watching old GNR tapes . Just curious, do Axl and the other guys have copies of the recordings you made over the years ?

did shoot the video at the Central and the Central told me I couldn't shoot it and Axl stood by me and said then we don't play. So even back then Axl did what he thought he had to, to get things done. By the way I wish that he didn't ask for the light to be turned down because the light guy turned them down too much and ruined the the video for the next 2 songs

Marc,

Do you know how it is that certain videos you shot like the Roxy and Central shows ended up being circulated in the bootleg community, while other things like the early audio recordings you made of the shows documented in Reckless Road never did?

I was also wondering, I can imagine all the legal and/or personal issues that must be involved in releasing any of those early GNR recordings but is it at all possible that Slash would ever agree to let you release any of the Road Crew or Tidus Sloan material either as complete shows or maybe a few complete songs atleast, or is that just something he wouldn't really want circulating for "everybody" to hear?

Thanks !

The number is 399 out of 1000 . I know people prefer to get the lowest numbers possible but I'm just happy to have anything !

hey look what i got ! i got it through a forum member and a good friend at a great price and its a low number to

Not gonna lie that's nice

Really cool ! How much did you pay for yours, if you don't mind me asking ?

Don't know if this has already been posted or if I'm even putting it in the right place , but just came across a 60 min. audience shot video of the Hiro Ballroom NY show on youtube and thought I'd spread the word for those interested. It looks like there are a couple more Deleon Pro shot videos up too.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HytXO5UMO0Y

The number is 399 out of 1000 . I know people prefer to get the lowest numbers possible but I'm just happy to have anything !

I'm actually the person who won the Cast Iron SI auction and felt really happy/lucky to get it for that price . Just arrived this week and it's a beautiful piece for sure, great new addition to the collection. I've got the Spaghetti Incident radio also so was very glad to add this to my SI promo items.

Hey everyone,

Just saw this on ebay and thought I 'd post the link if anyone here is interested, just in case noone else saw it, it's WAY out of my price range unfortunately. I think the person's taking advantage to price it at that but I guess to some it might be worth it.

Ebay link