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Ron doesn't shred as much as he did in 2006, in fact nowhere near. Now he seems to follow the songs structure and play solos more or less note for note.

Maybe Axl asked him to. And maybe that's why he has a bad temper lately and indulges in abusing fans.

he never abused me whenever i talk to him...maybe like every normal human being he just abuses the "fans" who abuse him

I haven't been to one, but I think that I remember reading that they occurred after the show on the last tour.

its before the show...

who is this man "matt" ?

this was recorded by a friend of mine at the o2 arena that night...dont think it was that bad as some say

rosie wasnt played at this show

second date brother

lol

this was recorded by a friend of mine at the o2 arena that night...dont think it was that bad as some say

course, with this line up he can make the greatest guns album ever, just hope he gets the motivation to do it

It's kind of crazy, what Bumblefoot said. But in a way I don't blame him, I understand him. I may have acted the same in his position. I met him several times in 2010, and while I deeply respect the man and the guitarist, I always felt he was faking it a bit with GNR. He was trying way too hard to be cool, to be the hero of the ban, the guy who talks with the fans and stuff. I think it was a sign he wasn't happy with GNR's communication with the fans and was trying to show how it should be done, but at the same time it's pretty obvious GNR isn't really his thing. He's a hired guy... from that point, how can a band be a band really??

I guess GNR as a band is totally fucked up. It can't fucking work. It should be a group of friends, not a group of mercenaries. And Bumblefoot can't be blamed on that one. I don't know the problems and the more time that goes on, the less I care about the band really.

To think I was the biggest fan of the band two years ago, I love every album, but I don't listen to it much nowadays because Axl makes me sad.

Yeah you might think my statement is stupid but there is so much passion and energy in GNR's music and Axl's lyrics that it makes me very sad to see Axl not so involved at all with his own band. It's like he doesn't care anymore and that the world doesn't care about him. I wish I could be one of his friends and motivate him. Or be born earlier to see him at his peak.

It's unbelievable to me to think that he has softened so much. I went to see GNR in June and I left the venue 30 minutes before the finish, it was the same show as 2 years ago, every fucking thing was the same except they added Estranged and Civil War... 2 old songs. Wooow big deal. And Axl was clearly not giving a fucking shit. I'm not saying it was a bad show. It was a great show if you just "like" GNR. But if you're a fan, seeing the exact same show with no commitment with Axl... just sucks.

The other guys only seem to be here for the money. Except Bumble.

Bumblefoot seem to be here for himself and his fans. I learnt to deeply respect that guy, I think he's very genuine, sure he doesn't deny his paychecks but he's a true guy and a true guitarist. I think he should quit GNR when he has enough money for his family. I think his aim is to have enough money for his wife & family, he seems pretty generous. I don't think he would risk his health if he was just touring for himself, he must have a deeper motivation to be able to go on stage with his health problems.

Personnally I see him as a newer Axl Rose, in a way he's worthy of being in GNR, he tells things like they are, like Axl used to do in the 90's.

Truth be told I appreciate all the guys from new GNR, even DJ. They all need to do a living and make their own stuff. I respect them all.

I just think the situation sucks. They should all quit when they have made enough money. The band is really pointless, I mean what's the point of making new tours without no new music??? What's the point of touring if you don't have it, if you have nothing new to say, and playing the same thing all over again without passion?

The problem of GNR is clearly Axl and his "family". He has no fucking motivation and the band doesn't fucking work. I respect Axl more than any other guy, and I blame myself for lacking respect to the man here, but really, I hope he comes back to life someday. It's like his motivation and hunger completely vanished and there are guys like Bumble who still have the hunger but are kept in a golden prison, waiting to break free.

You can't blame Bumble here. He's right. Fuck GNR. They aren't doing any FUCKING thing, where is the fucking new music? I don't want to see them live again if the setlist doesn't dramatically changes and if it doesn't include a whole bunch of new songs and the best songs from CD (TWAT, Prostitute). And I don't think they should call themselves a band if they never hang out outside of the tours, it's fucking ridiculous.

I feel the same as Bumble and I'm not even if the fucking band. Try to imagine his feelings, he's a genius guitarist, he DREAMS of playing new songs, more complicated songs, but he's trapped in playing sweet child over and over again every night. It's terribly boring for everyone, us and them.

So on topic: Bumble was right to behave that way, he's a human being and he didn't lie about his feelings. There is every right in the world to be fucking frustrated by what GNR has become. There was so much fucking potential in that band, even 2 years ago I still believed in it. But look at Axl's voice now, I can't fucking believe he trains his voice, he's lost it and he doesn't even back it up by being innovative on stage. It sucks.

Do I agree with it? No. Was it unacceptable? Probably. But Bumblefoot is a big boy, he certainly doesn't need anyone to stick up for him. He had to know it was likely to happen, he can't be that niece. Every GNR forum is just full of assholes just trying to stir shit up, get people twisted. But I'd rather deal with and just ignore the little bitches in these forums than the alternative, of which is the Communist run HTGTH. Did Bumble deserve it? Fuck no. But to say he shouldn't have expected it is stupid. That's why people like Axl and Slash would never come into an uncontrollable environment and talk openly to fans. Its a lose lose situation. Sad, but true. People are dicks!

but axl has been here several times

Yeah, he has. But COME ON MAN!!! You honestly believe it wasnt under a controlled enviornment?? How many emails did he return? How many REAL questions did he take?? It was all screened. Just like his Dexter account, you really think you can PM him??? Come on man.....

lol and there are ufo's on area 51

This is really simple...

We all have our favourite members past and present of GN'R, and some unfortunately aren't in the band anymore. But the way some people talked to Ron was way out of order, whatever the reasons are. He is a member of a band we all love dear, and we should respect him no matter what.

And I have to ask to those who purposely insulted Ron, why the fuck are you here?. We all have our pet peeves about GN'R's situation, and I've voiced my fair share... But what keeps your dignity is being respectful to a GN'R member who is online talking to us.

And Ron is not like certain other members of Guns, he is a genuine cool guy who surprised the fans in 2006 in regards to how fan friendly he was.

He deserves our respect, period.

standing ovation to u my man

guys come on...hes tired of the same questions ! of course he said fuck gnr !

I also say fuck my job everyday when i get home...that doesnt mean im going to quit or that i really mean that...i just want to forget about it while at home or vacations...

u guys pick everything up and twist it...he was just trying to get rid of some fuckin retarded kid

I feel sorry for BBF and health issues going on in his family life. Axl has no intentions of recording with him on new material. It has been 6 years. We all know there is no future in this band besides touring. That being said, I am still 100% pro-reunion.

That's what I was thinking. Bumblefoot said that he couldn't get the chance to write with the rest of the guys because he had health and family priorities (which is totally understandable) but he has been in the band since 2006, the material should exist by now and I'm pretty sure it does and lots of them, the problem is Axl.

hmm, the problem is not necessarily axl... what if he feels that the material written by geniuses like ashba and bbf isn't good enough to be recorded ? that would be quite understandable and i would fully support axl if that was his decision : it is better to record nothing than doing again the same mistake by recording another mediocre album.

lol i see u truly know axl

seriously how can people always make this kind of shit up ? is that really what you think?

I feel sorry for BBF and health issues going on in his family life. Axl has no intentions of recording with him on new material. It has been 6 years. We all know there is no future in this band besides touring. That being said, I am still 100% pro-reunion.

i respect your opinion although i think a reunion idea is stupid but as long as you're respectful to the current band members there's no problem in stating your own wishes or opinions.

bbf should have been treated worse. nothing wrong was said.

everyone step aside...retard coming this way

haha, so that's all a bbf fan hiding behind a cupcake account can come up with to defend his hero.

cupcake account ? lol

anything with "rim" in it has to be dodgy, although it suits his wants and desires just perfect.

lol

you're right skyrim suits my "wants" just perfect

@ Bionic,

I could really care less if you believe me or not. Your opinion matters to me not.

I respect that mate, but you still are a liar my friend, stop making things up to look cool, it's very,very sad.

I used to fight cupcakes on skyrim

then i stumbled on mygnr and realize that it's more fun to slay real cupcakes.

I usually just ignore them. If I do engage in a coversation with one, I will get out of the discussion on my own terms. I make my points and leave it at that. Because honestly most cupcakes can't disprove any of your points, they just try and turn it into a mud slinging contest. Which I don't care to get into those.

I would prefer to cut they're heads off with an axe...but i like freedom so your way is the best

Mate you would'nt know what to do with an axe, you prefer having real connections with band mates to fuel your fantasies.

yes i do, adler was just here sucking my dick for 2$ and bumblefoot's coming later for a cup of tea

going to have dinner at uncle axl's house next week

bbf should have been treated worse. nothing wrong was said.

everyone step aside...retard coming this way

I used to fight cupcakes on skyrim

then i stumbled on mygnr and realize that it's more fun to slay real cupcakes.

I usually just ignore them. If I do engage in a coversation with one, I will get out of the discussion on my own terms. I make my points and leave it at that. Because honestly most cupcakes can't disprove any of your points, they just try and turn it into a mud slinging contest. Which I don't care to get into those.

I would prefer to cut they're heads off with an axe...but i like freedom so your way is the best

I used to fight cupcakes on skyrim

then i stumbled on mygnr and realize that it's more fun to slay real cupcakes.

I talked to BBF on fb last night and I will share the just of my conversation because unlike the OP, I am not trying to garner attention. And because he said something that some of you will appreciate. He said that the "bad fans make him appreciate the good ones even more." Saying that it's all about respect. We talked for a bit, then I left him alone. I didn't badger him with questions.

Sometimes we forget that these guys are people too. If you treat people with dignity and respect, usually they return the favor. He is a really cool guy, and he really cares about us fans, more than Axl probably does, but thats a different topic.

I agree with most of you, nothing would make me happier than some sort of gnr reunion. But that's not up to me. And I'm not going to take it out on BBF or any other new memebers liek a spoiled child. And I am not going to judge the music this band makes because it's not slash and the boys. Music isn't sports people, not a competition. Listen and enjoy, if you don't like it then don't listen to it. Find something else to do with your life, it's that simple.

great post brother

is it just me that understands ron ?? i have chronic pain too and im always pissed off...at work, at home...everywhere ! so cut the guy some slack

fighting chronic pain , depression and getting a million hate/stupid/annoying messages on FB everyday isnt easy !

I've had back surgery and have screws and plates in my neck and yes it sucks dealing with it every day. Don't go on FB and those annoying messages go away. If bbf is w/ his family having dinner why is he conversing on FB w/ someone he doesn't know?

he was always like that...he shouldnt have to stop connecting with his fans because of a few spoiled brats...people need to grow up...just because ron is 1 or 2 clicks away from a conversation doesnt mean we should bother him.

Do I agree with it? No. Was it unacceptable? Probably. But Bumblefoot is a big boy, he certainly doesn't need anyone to stick up for him. He had to know it was likely to happen, he can't be that niece. Every GNR forum is just full of assholes just trying to stir shit up, get people twisted. But I'd rather deal with and just ignore the little bitches in these forums than the alternative, of which is the Communist run HTGTH. Did Bumble deserve it? Fuck no. But to say he shouldn't have expected it is stupid. That's why people like Axl and Slash would never come into an uncontrollable environment and talk openly to fans. Its a lose lose situation. Sad, but true. People are dicks!

but axl has been here several times

i don't see what was bad they way he was treated, he is a big boy, and he probably just laughed at it all. God the mods don't need to do a thing, they have their own lives to be getting on with, rather than worrying about what a few cry babies whinge on about, get a life and stop taking things so seriously.

bbf get's way more upset with the stuff people tell him than you imagine man

you people care far too much about this

This is a fan forum, what do you expect? Do you expect us to be indifferent when a band member is harassed to the point where he leaves the forum for good? Good for you, but that just begs the question: what the hell are you doing here? You might have lost all interest and be completely disillusioned about the state of GN'R -- we aren't.

He said something stupid to a fan and got criticized for it. It's not like the guy was an active poster here, he's been here twice.

For the record, I'm a big Bumblefoot fan.

it's not just because of bumble...it's because of everything...these guys ruin everything for everyone ALWAYS!

btw it doesnt matter if bbf he's an active poster or not...he's a member of the band we're here for...if he takes the time to talk to us he should get respect.

i think we're the only fans who attack the same person they are worshipping

Guns n roses is a subject that divides people and always creates discussions...so we must have rules and they must be enforced.

I dont mind contributing with money to help the forum...but this has to change.

fernando, axl, bbf they have all stopped coming here. i wonder why

To all the cupcakes

is it just me that understands ron ?? i have chronic pain too and im always pissed off...at work, at home...everywhere ! so cut the guy some slack

fighting chronic pain , depression and getting a million hate/stupid/annoying messages on FB everyday isnt easy !

Definately,and in addition being hounded endlessly about work,and somebody posting screenshots of your pm's is unacceptable.

Plus,this is typical Ron,remember him goofing on people that were ebombing him with requests on his live feeds?

He in no way deserved what he had to endure by coming here,there was a line crossed.

exactly there's nothing wrong in asking the tougher questions...if u do it respectably