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Pebber Brown?

Probably Lady Gaga.

shit wrong thread.

I think Axl thrives on disappointing fans.

Sigh, that "bowling alley" is far from a shithole.

How did Zagats rank it amongst other luxurious bowling alleys?

Nightmare before Christmas. That was a profound cinematic undertaking with unique use of effects, much like Jurassic Park and Toy Story were during the decade. Nothing like it since.

Which rabbit scene is better?

I found out that Drake signed to 'Lil Wayne's label years ago. Talk about a good investment.

Talk about a bad investment:

http://www.x17online.com/celebrities/kanye_west/kanye_west_low_ticket_sales_yeezus_tour_news_120513.php

I'm just glad this story is not going to revolve around MSL anymore. What a relief. Now we got more of the docs posted.

I'm in favor of renaming this the "snooze72 discusses Guns N Roses" thread. His links to Goldstein email, the doc pics, etc is far more substantial and interesting. It's not tainted like other sources.

I posted the full pages over at GNRevolution mainly in response to some bad info posted about management there (and because that's where the email from Goldstein and Niven was posted).

But I'm probably only going to post two pages (maybe three) as well. The rest aren't relevant. Nothing else addresses the situation under discussion.

http://www.gnrevolut...hp?id=13024&p=2

Thanks for posting snooze72. Really great find all in all.

Then go home MSL. You don't have anything to add and your narcissistic rhetoric won't be missed. Just say you won't post the rest of the document and leave. No need to dance around it. You are wasting everyone's time making up claims you can't substantiate only to move onto other claims. You already look like a fool based on what you've said several pages back. May as well give up while you're behind. You're just continuing to dig a bigger hole.

Post the whole doc and GTFO MSL. No one should be wasting their breath arguing in circles with you.

MSL is more than connecting the dots. He's making naive leaps of faith feigning a knowledge in partnership and contract law. He doesn't know what he is talking about. He should just post the docs and go away. He doesn't have anything to add to his own thread.

InThisGrave, your negative attitude is completely ruining this thread.

Whether you believe MSL or not, even though proof has been presented, you're getting out of line here when you start promoting lawsuits and going personal with this.

So MSL damaging the public reputations of Slash and Duff intentionally or recklessly should be ignored? I think you should come up with an argument other than simply expressing your disappointment. Slash and Duff are real people that make a living based on their public image. There is a possibility of MSL damaging them financially by harming their public images.

Are we allowed to use Axl as a reference, or no?

MSL was making public allegations "broadcast" from his own web site and here too. Some of the statements were in passive language or in a question format but other statements were more direct. Although a case could be made that this substantiated libel, it would be hard to measure the damage though because no one really cares about MSL.

Sure, they could have sued Axl but like the name, they probably just don't care anymore and have moved on. By the way, Alan Niven pointed out long ago that he was out of the band at the point Axl is referencing him in your quote as the manager trying to sell him out. Axl's explanation didn't jive.

This is the best response to what MSL has been saying. People are absorbing what he is saying and regurgitating concepts that are wrong.

MSL is more than connecting the dots. He's making naive leaps of faith feigning a knowledge in partnership and contract law. He doesn't know what he is talking about. He should just post the docs and go away. He doesn't have anything to add to his own thread.

They should really sue him for damages but he's so unimportant that his words will be forgotten with time and no one will really care.

If MSL claimed that Slash & Duff were lying when they didn't then that is a priori evidence showing MSL has committed libel.

Epic. I've always wondered what "it" is.

The lengths some in this thread have gone to grasp at straws is really quite extraordinary.

What many of you are missing is this:

With Izzy gone, if Axl did not have that clause protecting him, Slash & Duff could have voted him out of the band 2-1 and ended up with sole ownership of Guns N' Roses.

No. Nice assumption to make but where exactly is that said in the docs? Do you have this info? Please post the docs. Are you just assuming things again? Don't tell us what we are not getting. You are already one to have made a fool of yourself. Don't try to give us any more learnin' Grandpa. If you need help understanding what happens to intellectual property like trademarks when a partnership ends, you can PM me. Why don't you go look it up on-line? Everyone else can use Google and do the same. They don't need you as an oracle.

Even though Axl founded the band, named the band, fronted the band and was the primary songwriter, the fucking replacement bassist & guitarist that joined Axl's existing band could have kicked him out of his band and ended up with it.

Why in a million years should Axl have agreed to carry on with Guns once Izzy departs if it meant Slash and Duff could just get rid of him at any point, he'd have no protection whatsoever, and two dudes that joined the band he founded would get to keep the name?

FUCK THAT. You'd have to be CRAZY to put yourself in that situation.

If you have this info written down then please post the docs. Otherwise, you are just continuing to make a fool of yourself. I think you are trying your best to save face here by changing the subject. I don't think you have anything else to add to this thread other than posting the docs. Your opinions and thoughts on the matter are superfluous.

Guns N' Roses played a bowling alley. It still hasn't hit me yet. That happened? My mind keeps blocking that out. It's like I have amnesia or my brain is trying to prevent from remembering but every time I think about it, it's like, wow? Really? I still can't process it. No way. Bowling alley? You mean the Rose Bowl right? Yeah that's what everyone meant.

I guess that's partly the state of the music industry, partly marketing. I saw The Birthday Massacre and Emilie Autumn in Boston recently. I was kind of saddened because, this was Boston and they were playing a rather small venue. I was a bit shocked that TBM was opening. I later saw roadies for TBM putting away their equipment afterwards, and I noticed they looked just like the TBM. That's because they were TBM. I saw Rainbow, Owen putting away their own equipment. Not that it is bad or anything, just kind of humbling to see them. Maybe they're economical because they are Canadian. It was one of the best concerts I had been to in a long time. Both acts were awesome. The tix were unbelievably cheap. I thought they deserved a bigger following but that's me. I'm not saying the venue was a shithole, it just wasn't the TD Garden.

I wonder how musicians can make any decent money these days unless they are lucky. I think discouraged musicians unfortunately might (or already has) reduce the quality of the new music coming out. Used to be that everyone that made it to MTV became a millionaire. Those days won't return.

Any of you viewed once popular (or favorite) acts playing for peanuts to small crowds?

I don't know many. At this point they feel sorry for him. Reminds me of Brian Posehn jokes.

It's an escape.