RocketQueenGNR

Congratulations DJ!

I'm happy for him, no matter what the majority says

I also believe (hope) it's real. And I like it.

This seems like a good thread to ask. Marc, Could you please explain why Axl hates Slash. I honestly do not understand or perhaps it

was never said before, why he holds so much hatred towards him. Is it because Slash left the band? Perhaps because of the law suits?

Did Slash say something publicly to piss him off? I'm a die hard fan but this is one thing that I never understood. Any help on this would be great.

All of the above, Left the band Law suites and Saying things publicly

I think Axl really liked Slash. But in one or another way, it went wrong between the 2 of them, we all know that.

And there are only 2 people who know for sure what happened, and that are Axl and Slash.

I don't even think Axl and Slash know what happened, They both have very different versions of what went wrong. That is why if they really want the answers, they need a good middle man someone that does it for a living that can help both of them know what really went wrong.

Do you think that will ever happen?

I think Axl really liked Slash. But in one or another way, it went wrong between the 2 of them, we all know that.

And there are only 2 people who know for sure what happened, and that are Axl and Slash.

Not trying to be negative here, but you aren't suppose to vote for your favorite band. But for the band that had the best 2012. How in the world would GnR earn that honor?

Bringing new albums out is not the only reason why a band can be called band of the yeas.

Guns did and does a lot of great things by touring a lot, and last but not least: there's a lot more (personal) interaction between the members and fans. Even Axl takes time for them after a show.

The European tour was awesome, so imo they deserve the title.

Is there any year that you wouldn't vote for GnR?

This is a good example of the Nutter thing. Seriously, I love GnR just as much as you do. If not more.

But, people are voting for GnR just because they are their favorite band. That is a Nutter.

I saw GnR this year and had a great time. Awesome show. But there was maybe 5000 people there. No album. No hit singles. And I hate to tell you, but pretty much ALL bands mingle and interact with their fans. Everything you and Flayer mentioned happened with other bands.

Is GnR my favorite band? Without a doubt, by a landslide. But the band of the year? That is just Axl Worship.

There are bands that got just as good, if not better reviews than GnR this year. Along with having a new album. Charted songs. Larger concert ticket sales.

Again, not to be rude, the poll is for which band had the best 2012. Not for who your favorite band is.

I think you agree with me that Axl is very unattainable, right? In the past, being a fan, you could only get close to Axl when you were some kind of groupie.

Nowadays Axl takes the time for the fans, and so do the other bandmembers. I see that as a huge improvement.

The poll isn't about voting for the band who did the most. Not to me. I'm not voting on another band than my favourite, just because they released some music or whatever.

Guns is on the right track. They do a lot of things these days, more than they ever did.

The unattainable part......sure. I guess I don't place importance on that though. I love Axl for his singing ability. He is a woman beater, treats people like crap, the late starts and sometimes not showing up at all, the revolving door of musicians in GnR, the prima donna crap....not only do I not care to meet him, it still strikes me odd that people - especially females - worship him. often we idolized celebrities or athletes and think they must be great people in real life.....unfortunately, usually they are not.

Secondly, the band does a lot of things now that they didn't used to do? What???? The GnR I grew up with put out 4 albums in 5 years, toured the world, released maybe 10 videos, played award shows and late night talk shows and did lots of interviews!!! That was the highlight of my music life.

So you are basically admitting that you are voting because GnR is your favorite band. Nothing any other band did this year really matters. That was my main point if confusion. From a non biased point of view, 2012 was not the year of GnR. For the GnR fan base it was a nice year of three hour shows. But for the overall rock world, many bands had better years.

I apologize if I sound rude because of the 'voting for your favorite band instead of the best band' thing. Today's society seems to sink further and further into the every kid gets a trophy just for participating mindset. Which is what you are doing by voting for GnR!

Anyway. It is just a silly survey by a classic rock magazine, it really has no importance in the world. So anybody can vote for whomever they want, for whatever reason they want!!!!

Imo, while GnR is still my favorite band of all time, other bands had better years in 2012.

Women often worship 'bad guys', I don't know why but it's the truth. By the way, I worship Axl in another way. Not in the groupie way. He's my idol since I was 8 years old, and he will always mean a lot to me.

I dreamt about meeting him since I was a kid, and I'm glad it finally happened this year.

About doing a lot of things: Just think about the years of silence. I explained it the wrong way.

Yes, I vote for Guns because it's my favourite band, and because I enjoyed and cherish everything we have experienced during the European tour (great shows, meet&greets, afterparty, meeting Axl).

You're right about the survey being unimportant. A fan doesn't need the proof. Guns will still be our favourite band, even if they don't 'win' it.

Not trying to be negative here, but you aren't suppose to vote for your favorite band. But for the band that had the best 2012. How in the world would GnR earn that honor?

Bringing new albums out is not the only reason why a band can be called band of the yeas.

Guns did and does a lot of great things by touring a lot, and last but not least: there's a lot more (personal) interaction between the members and fans. Even Axl takes time for them after a show.

The European tour was awesome, so imo they deserve the title.

Is there any year that you wouldn't vote for GnR?

This is a good example of the Nutter thing. Seriously, I love GnR just as much as you do. If not more.

But, people are voting for GnR just because they are their favorite band. That is a Nutter.

I saw GnR this year and had a great time. Awesome show. But there was maybe 5000 people there. No album. No hit singles. And I hate to tell you, but pretty much ALL bands mingle and interact with their fans. Everything you and Flayer mentioned happened with other bands.

Is GnR my favorite band? Without a doubt, by a landslide. But the band of the year? That is just Axl Worship.

There are bands that got just as good, if not better reviews than GnR this year. Along with having a new album. Charted songs. Larger concert ticket sales.

Again, not to be rude, the poll is for which band had the best 2012. Not for who your favorite band is.

I think you agree with me that Axl is very unattainable, right? In the past, being a fan, you could only get close to Axl when you were some kind of groupie.

Nowadays Axl takes the time for the fans, and so do the other bandmembers. I see that as a huge improvement.

The poll isn't about voting for the band who did the most. Not to me. I'm not voting on another band than my favourite, just because they released some music or whatever.

Guns is on the right track. They do a lot of things these days, more than they ever did.

The picture he said is black/white and you see Izzy en profil smiling, it's beautiful because you can see it's a true smile. He was having a good time.

Not trying to be negative here, but you aren't suppose to vote for your favorite band. But for the band that had the best 2012. How in the world would GnR earn that honor?

Bringing new albums out is not the only reason why a band can be called band of the yeas.

Guns did and does a lot of great things by touring a lot, and last but not least: there's a lot more (personal) interaction between the members and fans. Even Axl takes time for them after a show.

The European tour was awesome, so imo they deserve the title.

As for Slash, have I ever said something like that? No. I appreciate every single member, I became a fan in 1990 so why would I call someone a true fan when this person says that Slash sucks?

Big difference is that I (as one of the longterm fans) don't complain but just enjoy the fact that Guns still exists. And yes, it took some time for me to accept the new line-ups. But now I'm just happy that Axl continues with the band, and is doing a great job.

Then I apologize because I mistakenly thought you were one of those "fuck Slash, fuck Duff --- current band is miles better than the old one" type of users. Sumimasen.

It's ok

If DJ didnt wear such weird clothing, like socks on his arms, I'd like him more

Why judging someone by his looks? If I had to do that, I could ruin every topic about BH or Finck for their looks...

It's about contribution, not looks.

He's contributed nothing.

How can you say that about a guy you're obsessed with?

We're talking about Dj.

Yes, I know?

Me too.

Ok then

If DJ didnt wear such weird clothing, like socks on his arms, I'd like him more

Why judging someone by his looks? If I had to do that, I could ruin every topic about BH or Finck for their looks...

It's about contribution, not looks.

He's contributed nothing.

How can you say that about a guy you're obsessed with?

We're talking about Dj.

Yes, I know?

If DJ didnt wear such weird clothing, like socks on his arms, I'd like him more

Why judging someone by his looks? If I had to do that, I could ruin every topic about BH or Finck for their looks...

It's about contribution, not looks.

He's contributed nothing.

How can you say that about a guy you're obsessed with?

I've been on this site and rather quiet for upwards of 7 years. I can honestly say I've never seen so much hate towards the band as I do now. I'm not going to rip anyone for having an opinion... people have their reasons and that's cool by me. What I will say I don't understand why people who obviously don't like the band frequent a forum dedicated to them. I'm no fan of Poison or Motley Crue so I don't frequent their fan sites... (if they even have any.) Anyways I voted for GNR - if I was going to vote for another band I'd probably be on a different forum for Sabbath or Rush... both of whom are great bands in their own right.

You are so right.

And do you know what's worst? That every normal poster/post/thread is being ridiculed...

Why you Axl nutters can't take "no" for an answer?

Axl doesn't sound good on that song, what happened to his voice? --- Boo, fuckin' hater!

I wish Axl released CD II by the end of the year instead of this nonsense touring --- Boo, fuckin' hater!

Damn, DJ fucking up Robin and/or Slash solos once again --- Boo, fuckin' hater!

Slash sucks -- Great! Awesome true Gn'R fan!

You idiots want everything to be Jarmo's style. Then join his forum, and stop bitching about this here!

One more time... There's a huge difference between giving an opinion and bashing every single move. Get my point?

As for Slash, have I ever said something like that? No. I appreciate every single member, I became a fan in 1990 so why would I call someone a true fan when this person says that Slash sucks?

Big difference is that I (as one of the longterm fans) don't complain but just enjoy the fact that Guns still exists. And yes, it took some time for me to accept the new line-ups. But now I'm just happy that Axl continues with the band, and is doing a great job.

Sorry but your description above is not about this 'nutter'.

I voted Black Sabbath, and they suck.

I Didn't expect anything else from you.

Good. Move along now.

I voted Black Sabbath, and they suck.

I Didn't expect anything else from you.

Voted for Black Sabbath

There's another great photo of Izzy from the same show where he is seen in profile smiling. One of the best pics I have seen of him.

Please post if you find it, I can't remember that I saw it .

You know, I don't know if it is in the public domain yet nor how the mods will feel about it, so I will rather just encourage people to check it out on the official site.

You're right.

Just checked it, and ofcourse I saw it before. Well, must be the age or something But it's a great picture!

There's another great photo of Izzy from the same show where he is seen in profile smiling. One of the best pics I have seen of him.

Please post if you find it, I can't remember that I saw it .

I've been on this site and rather quiet for upwards of 7 years. I can honestly say I've never seen so much hate towards the band as I do now. I'm not going to rip anyone for having an opinion... people have their reasons and that's cool by me. What I will say I don't understand why people who obviously don't like the band frequent a forum dedicated to them. I'm no fan of Poison or Motley Crue so I don't frequent their fan sites... (if they even have any.) Anyways I voted for GNR - if I was going to vote for another band I'd probably be on a different forum for Sabbath or Rush... both of whom are great bands in their own right.

You are so right.

And do you know what's worst? That every normal poster/post/thread is being ridiculed...

If DJ didnt wear such weird clothing, like socks on his arms, I'd like him more

Why judging someone by his looks? If I had to do that, I could ruin every topic about BH or Finck for their looks...

It's about contribution, not looks.

Cool

Story

Bro

I'm not sure what the point of these contests. Whoever wins usually does so because their respective fans were better organized than others. Moreover, how can you decide if you haven't seen each show? Of these bands, I only saw Guns N' Roses last year. Does that give me any kind of frame of reference? Dumb.

Fair points

Do you know what's coming, when they read your last sentence?

lol,you know deep down inside what's the truth.

No, not the truth. Bashers are predictable. That's why I know it.

Izzy should join the band.

That would never happen. Izzy knows what the other 3 are putting up with. Izzy's been there, done that, and don't want any more of it.

you are his confidant? or his spokesperson?

It's never going to happen. Although if it did, it might save Axl's butt on the next record, as Izzy could pen the lyrics

..then we'd have 20% of GN'R back, rather than the 10% we have now.

Weird analogy...last show I was at im pretty sure 100% of the band was on stage? How the fuck would they play without 100% of their members?

Not everyone is good in mathematics

Voted GNR....Nothing is better than them..not Rush, not Black Sabbath not anything.

And they know that too.

Who knows that, the people not voting for GNR? I honestly feel Rush should win this. Clockwork Angels is the best album they have put out since 1989's Presto (or maybe even Power Windows) and has such a great melting pot of a conceptual storyline and fantastic music

Yes, most of the people that don't vote for Guns. If it was the 'old' band, they'd do it.

But now in this 'era of the complaints' they do everything to cupcake.

Voted GNR....Nothing is better than them..not Rush, not Black Sabbath not anything.

And they know that too.