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As I said, she didn't offend me, but that was a certain level, disrespectful. I agree some people are making a storm in a teacup, but that was not the adequate thing to say.

i think the problem was not her words, but how they represent gnr and tb's behavior towards the online community, the only people who stil care about new music. it was a big fuck you to the diehards.

cashba is the best, he plays some sic shit.

Ha! This reply by Beta is just another example of why Guns n' Roses isn't worth your time and money anymore. I've been a big (though always critical) supporter of them for many years, but this is just getting pathetic. Axl and team Brazil are a joke. They milk the same concerts over and over while raising ticket prices without offering anything new for years. And then they get offended when their most enthusiastic fans are hungry for more music and insult them over it. You ungrateful pieces of shit.

If your CD re-release or your mediocre show Blu-ray (for which they're probably re-recording all the vocals) ever happens, you can shove them where the sun don't shine.

Guns n' Roses is NOT worth it anymore. Good luck with your never-ending CD tour. Axl Rose can suck it.

if the bluray comes out, i hope it gets really low sales and shows fataxl and team dumbass they're done.

are there plans for a new sixx:am album? cause that would get dj off the picture for some time.

is there a new ron thal album in the works?

how long will be the replacements reunion?

how much time will del and jarmo need to rest and get ready for a new tour?

do we have info on this?

have the guys made any comments about their intentions? i mean, dj probably will start working in new sixx:am, ron has his solo work, dizzy plays some bars... tomy will join the replacements for some gigs... no idea about richard, frank or jarmo... so, what will (realistically) happen next? based on info we have.

Paradise city video and the trailer.

Its never officially been confirmed that it was ever going to be released by Guns n roses or management. The only hint was when they tweeted that the upcoming shot was going to be shot in 3D.Rockfuel teased us wit the rest.

so you are saying it's not gnr's fault? lol, nutters.

not at all. Like an upcoming album they have kept quiet. Its not as if it was guns leading us on for months. Gnr never said summer release.

ok thanks for your input, bellend!

Paradise city video and the trailer.

Its never officially been confirmed that it was ever going to be released by Guns n roses or management. The only hint was when they tweeted that the upcoming shot was going to be shot in 3D.Rockfuel teased us wit the rest.

so you are saying it's not gnr's fault? lol, nutters.

not at all. Like an upcoming album they have kept quiet. Its not as if it was guns leading us on for months. Gnr never said summer release.

Paradise city video and the trailer.

Its never officially been confirmed that it was ever going to be released by Guns n roses or management. The only hint was when they tweeted that the upcoming shot was going to be shot in 3D.Rockfuel teased us wit the rest.

so you are saying it's not gnr's fault? lol, nutters.

This woman is a tremendous manipulator.

She realized from the get-go that Axl was an easy mark, and has managed to go from being the maid to essentially running the entire GNR empire. That is the sign of a great conman (or con-woman in her case).

Knowing how fragile Axl has always been emotionally she stepped right in and has leveraged their personal relationship in a way that drove away everyone in his life leaving her and her spawn to run everything.

She has done a masterful job brainwashing Axl because otherwise I don't see how he could be that blind not to see how she has ruined his career.

By acting as the gate keeper to him she gets to keep him paranoid and only trusting of her, which only exacerbates the problems he has. She is able to rake in the cash, and keep away any potential sane voices from his life that would expose the fraud that is the entire Lebeis clan.

He's Axl freaking Rose, and yet somehow he has been relegated to nothing more than a pawn in the Lebeis familiy's continued torpedoing of GNR, his legacy, and his career.

It is freaking sad. He's like a member of a freaking cult with his devotion to this family despite the toxic effect they have had on his life and career. He'll realize it one day as most do in situations like this, but by then it will be too late.

What we all wouldn't give for him to snap the hell out of it and kick the Lebeis family, Jarmo, Del James and the rest of the enablers out of his life so he can get back to being a real person again who isn't under the spell of a Brazillian house keeper.

there's no turning back man, axl is comfortable this way, he's gonna be a big baby until he dies, TB gets their share, Axl lives in his own personal matrix and the fans are screwed.

management sent a big fuck you to the fanbase today, i think we have the right to answer them in the same way. not that i'll keep insulting them or anything, but well, they deserve it.

I voiced on page two that I felt Beta's comments were uncalled for.

However, we are not going to tolerate people calling her nasty, vulgar names. I get that the vibe right now isn't totally positive and that people are just waiting for opportunities like this to lash out, but Beta being rude to fans doesn't warrant some of the vulgarity I've seen so far. From here on out please refrain from such comments -- and if you have to ask yourself what kinds of comments I'm referring to, then you probably already know.

OK. I'm not trying to be a dick. Just looking for some clarification.

So I called Beta a cunt earlier, which, fine, is not nice. But to make a big thing about words like that and others in the thread? I don't get it. This is a GNR board and Axl is routinely called a fat, lazy, bitter, crazy, woman beating has been with a helium Mickey Mouse voice that pretty much constantly sounds like shit these days. Now, all of that is correct IMO, but why is that OK and calling Beta some names after she pulls this shit with fans isn't?

maybe it's because beta is a woman... i dunno... she deserves all the criticism she gets.

this band never gets tired of behaving like pathetic idiots. team brazil is so stupid, i feel bad for guys like ron thal, he probably needs to swallow all this bullshit and finish his contract as a professional.

YOU ARE ALL HORRIBLE PEOPLE!

"complaints, complaints, complaints" - GNR's stupid and bitchy manager to fans wanting new music. gotta love gnr, i mean, nununupatheticstupidgnr

they do take their fans for granted. that's why i wish them a good amoun of failures so maybe they can learn that their hardcore fans are the ones truly supporting them, not the redneck paying to listen to WTTJ, SCOM and go home.

stupid response from a stupid lady like beta, not surprised.

wrong section my ass! posters here created threads in this same section to call BBA gay, we have nothing to talk about and people complain about a thread like this one? shit.

i miss the real GNR, and New GNR too. fuck nununugnr.

Axl is borderline illiterate.

I think he shows the opposite actually. All the abbreviations and commas are perfectly placed for easy reading It's pretty fuckin' impressive!

it's not an opinion. Axl's writing is a grammatical and rhetorical train wreck.

Yup, the perks of being a high school dropout with no education whatsoever.

that's why guys like duff write books and articles and axl writes tweets about diarhea.

Is it just me, or is it the first time that Axl sings Don't Cry completely without rasp, even at the the traditional "And please remember how I felt inside now honey...." part (2m40s) ???

he's using "soft rasp".... if you watch it in HD, headphones, in an apple computer, lights off, lying in your bed, you will listen to it.

01.Chinese Democracy

02.Welcome To The Jungle

03.It's So Easy

04.Mr. Brownstone

05.Estranged

06.Better

07.Rocket Queen

08.Richard Fortus Solo

09.Live and Let Die

10.This I Love

11.Used To Love Her

12.Motivation (Tommy Stinson)

13.Dizzy Solo (No Quarter)

14.Catcher in the Rye

15.You Could Be Mine

16.Dj Ashba Guitar Solo

17.Sweet Child O' Mine

you never know what to expect from a gnr show. i'm blown away by this setlist. hope they play PC tonight, who's with me?

videos sound better than current axl/gnr.

lol, pathetic move from axl who really contributes his share to make the internet a big garbage can. beta's pm to madison also would be a nice addition to this thread.

Ooh yes. Post please.

That Axl rant on Madison always makes me smile.

i'd love to but unfortunately i can't access my old PMs.

all the brazilian trending topics are stupid, including gnr.

don't be surprised if a brazilian residency actually happens.

axl's ego killed the band, the leeches are just doing what their boss wants them to do. the "get on board or fuck off" approach this band takes is really pathetic.