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band members say talk to management, management says talk to Axl, Axl says ask the label?

hahahahahhahahahah!!!

It was already explaned to me that Axl has CD2 but can't release it (god knows why).

So I was wrong, but how am I to know that when it is very hard to find ANY info on this mysterious CD2?

It's not exactly common knowledge to some of us (especially someone new to this board).

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Bono and Jagger weren't sexually abused by a sadistic stepfather nor did they prematurely lose their mothers by going to the city to escape. From the offset Axl had a longing for that protective figure in his life. Frankly his mother failed to play that role by failing to protect him and his siblings against her predatory lover.

Therefore at a time of emotional vulnerability in losing Stephanie, Axl was naturally quite responsive to the motherly affection of Beta.

Im all for getting healthy( Im a Dr. after all) and if Axl took the time to focus on his mental emotional and spiritual health I celebrate it. If stability and time out of the spotlight to get his "clan" his "tribe' his "family" together made him a more focused and productive person I celebrate that. Sometimes your only as healthy as the people you surround yourself with. In the game of life people that enable your negative traits by allowing you to continue on with negative destructive traits are not friends or family they are excuse makers and ultimately they become worse than toxic poison or heroin/meth addiction.

I dont see Beta as that negative because I think she witnessed more than one occasion where Axl was in total meltdown on all fronts.

If at any point in time she was responsible for showing Axl any measure of human kindness and true concern...then that needs to be celebrated. Far better that than Axl being found dead in a bathtub in Paris.

The music business is a shark infested parasitic business with everyone on the take and all demanding something. There was no way back to a simple life for Axl post 93. There was no promise of stability given the contentious nature of the beast that GNR became. If his need for motherly affection and surrounding himself with people that comforted him and he could actualy trust healed some of the shit that he had running from for years.. then I celebrate that too. Axl may act all tough but his music betrays his bravado in many many ways. The thrill of Axl was in his expression that in essence gave many people the courage to voice thier opinions or fight for thier dreams. His example was that as well on a personal note...Bad kid from nowwhere destined for a hard life of always having to fight for freedom suddenly finds himself on stage being the leader of the parade. Thats powerful.

What is obvious given the last weeks posts that are blantant outright negative is the fans are turing toxic as well and that includes myself. In reflection We are yearning for something that must not be. We yearn for the GNR of yesterday..the GNR of young men and fresh dreams that damn near killed every single member at one point or the other. That cant be love. As Jim Morrison said: "They want my death." Do we? Would we be happy seeing Axl as he was in 87? Would that passify our craving for his artwork? We see the spotlights, the fame the glory, thrill in the music and the message and dance merrily on our way when its all said and done but the behind the scenes are vile and filled with shit that most people are not willing to metaphorically sell thier souls to the devil for. Ive thought many times that what I want for Axl is like that of the old quarterback...come out and show us one last time just why they said you were the best.. take us to the top one last time before time settles all affairs in this life. Dont give in without a fight.

For whatever reasons that Beta is "manager" of GNR..be it financial for the corporation, or because she has insight and ability to work with Axl or its his only resort to holding on to the beast that he created in GNR then so be it. It is possible that on the whole Axl himself doesnt want to engage the rock world and its parasitic players at anywhere the same level and intensity that WE would naturally assume he SHOULD given who he really is as an artist. There is no way home here folks. There is no going back to the start. There simply isnt enough time or will to walk down that path again for anyone.

Time to celebrate what was and accept what is. If there is another record.. yay! good for us and if it isnt our brand of GNR then find a suitable replacement for the pleasure and thrill that GNR provides.

Brilliant post man, sums it up perfectly. But finding a suitable replacement in our lives? is not going to happen. I can't feel for anyother band what I do for GNR.

I think too many people take Axls story about his family life and all that stuff a little too seriously. I mean, if i'm not mistaken, this sexual abuse that he endured he only found out about through regression therapy right, it's meant to've occured when he was 2 years old?!?! Just sayin'...

Bono grew up in Ireland back when Ireland was fuckin' rough...Mick grew up in post-war England, I'm willing to bet their childhoods were rougher than anything Axl Rose went through.

I think you're downplaying the subconcious emotional trauma which would result from being sexually abused as an infant baby. It would cause all sorts of psychological grief in later life (which would you find difficult to explain given that you were a child and can only articulate the subconcious feelings rather than the timeline of abuse).

No I'm not, i'm just question how you can possibly know you were sexually abused as a 2 year old, especially when the basis for the assertion is something as flimsy as 'regression therapy'.

I personally think regression therapy is bull.

He tried to get Axl sacked from the band before UYI. Bad move.

He didn't try to do that. He made a suggestion and all due to Axl's behaviour which was far more unaceptable than the other members who were actually drug addicts but still were more professional than him at the time...

Seriously? You really believe everyone else in the band was behaving professionally? Come on man. Nobody was behaving professionally. Absolutely nobody. And if it was your band, and you were surrounded by people that were barely able to keep their heads up, wouldn't you take control of your band or your business? I mean seriously even if you're a business owner if your partners were f***** up and drunk all the time and sticking needles in their arms to the point where they were unconscious for days at a time, wouldn't you take control to? That's not to say the things he actually did or the way he went about it were right, but to say that everyone else was professional and Axl alone wasn't is just ridiculous. Your smarter than that. I've read a lot of your posts. You sound really pissed at Axl more than anything. I think if everyone would honestly realize, all 5 of these guys fucked this band up. They all took part in its demise. Not just the guy who took control over it all, all be it to an obsessive level. And another thing. Illusions did not kill the band either. Illusions are great and I'm thankful we have at least the 3 full length records, and the one EP from the orignal band. Do I wish it woulda lasted longer? Fuck n A yes I do. But all this blaming Slash, Axl or whomever manager they had is just stupid. All 5 members put themselves where they ended up. It may be your or others opiniuns some are more responsible than another, I for one do not. They each made there beds, now there lieing in it. Just seems Duff and Izzy are the only two not completely filled with either bitterness or regret. And good for them.

I agree, everyone played a part in the destruction. I dont mean to single Axl out, I only wanted an opinion on the management.

I did not intend to single any one statement out, I certainly understand where your coming from. I also understand where Andre is coming from. I was just trying to point out the obvious. A lot of us are so passionate about this band that when things seem to hit come to a hault, or even worse, we believe it may be all over, we, myself included, ive done my fair share of blaming and bashing Axl and Slash mostly. But honestly at one point or another, I've pointed fingured at all of them. But, we hit that wall of frustration and it boils over into this kind of stuff. And I just think its counterproductive, for life in general. Not just GNR related crap.

Andre-wasn't trying to attack your post my friend, I've read many of your posts over the years. And you always seem to have very interesting points. I was just simply pointing out I didn't agree with you that Axl was unprofessional more so than anyone else. That's all.

"Many of my posts"? dude I just signed up here, are you confusing me with someone else maybe?

But anyway I know what you mean, We get so frustrated about everything & I have gone through peroids where I hate Axl & then I love him again & the same for Slash/Izzy/Duff etc etc....

It's foolish to blame any one person for the downfall of the band (no one has that much power unless you let them) when it took all 5 of them to build it & all 5 to tear it down.

I think we fans overanalize it because we want answers & we get bored when nothing happens.

I thought Niven was an interesting guy who seemed to have a lot of answers & I guessed everyone here had strong opinions about him..

I wanna know how hard Axl makes Beta's life?

He tried to get Axl sacked from the band before UYI. Bad move.

He didn't try to do that. He made a suggestion and all due to Axl's behaviour which was far more unaceptable than the other members who were actually drug addicts but still were more professional than him at the time...

Seriously? You really believe everyone else in the band was behaving professionally? Come on man. Nobody was behaving professionally. Absolutely nobody. And if it was your band, and you were surrounded by people that were barely able to keep their heads up, wouldn't you take control of your band or your business? I mean seriously even if you're a business owner if your partners were f***** up and drunk all the time and sticking needles in their arms to the point where they were unconscious for days at a time, wouldn't you take control to? That's not to say the things he actually did or the way he went about it were right, but to say that everyone else was professional and Axl alone wasn't is just ridiculous. Your smarter than that. I've read a lot of your posts. You sound really pissed at Axl more than anything. I think if everyone would honestly realize, all 5 of these guys fucked this band up. They all took part in its demise. Not just the guy who took control over it all, all be it to an obsessive level. And another thing. Illusions did not kill the band either. Illusions are great and I'm thankful we have at least the 3 full length records, and the one EP from the orignal band. Do I wish it woulda lasted longer? Fuck n A yes I do. But all this blaming Slash, Axl or whomever manager they had is just stupid. All 5 members put themselves where they ended up. It may be your or others opiniuns some are more responsible than another, I for one do not. They each made there beds, now there lieing in it. Just seems Duff and Izzy are the only two not completely filled with either bitterness or regret. And good for them.

I agree, everyone played a part in the destruction. I dont mean to single Axl out, I only wanted an opinion on the management.

Not as I understand it, Niven thought the band was Izzy with Duff the engine, Axl to him was just a singer. Niven called Axl's material like Nov Rain and Estrnaged "Elton Rose". He could well have been right, in that GNR didn't need to go so OTT as UYI. Niv thought it was too early to do Physical Graphiti. History has proven otherwise as Nov Rain is basically the centrepiece of the show.

I think Axl got it right on Right Next Door to Hell, it's not a song about hitting someone with a bottle. Axl tackled where they were at that point, fame, money, they owned 91-2.

Niven was completely right.

It was too early to do a physical graffiti. Too early to go mainstream (the band completely colapsed after going mainstream which proved him right).

They should have done 2 more Appetite kind of albums and then go with Illusions. The illusions were always gonna be good records, cause the music in there is good.

Everyone agreed that the songs would be better without the voice overs and Axl's piano parts, but yet Axl alone went against everybody (and by the way they had equal shares by then) and did what he wanted. Izzy was completely disgusted with the final masters of the Use Your Illusion albums, and everyone referred it as Axl's songs because neither of them really liked it.

Sure they're hits. The songs are great, but they didn't fit Guns N'Roses at that time...They had a very successful album and they were established by then but they needed more time before they would go into that adventure...I completely agree with Alan Niven on what he had to say on that interview...

And if you think about it Axl lied in 1999 that he wanted to do another Appetite kind of record, because when the break up started to affect the band, Axl already wanted to do Chinese Democracy.... so 3 albums, 3 different styles?? For a band that had just established themselves?! That's crazy...

Bands need to establish a music style first. That has to go through 2 or 3 albums at least, then that's when they should start the experimental stuff...

Well said. At some point Axl says he want to do another AFD album & then other times he changes his mind & wants to do a NIN style album. The guy is all over the place. But then again Niven said Axl still did not know who he was & was trying to find himself....but he should'nt have dragged the band in to that & stuck to rock. & poor Izzy was pushed away. Axl says he's crying & begging Izz to stay but ONLY if Izzy signs a BS contract? wtf?

Not as I understand it, Niven thought the band was Izzy with Duff the engine, Axl to him was just a singer. Niven called Axl's material like Nov Rain and Estrnaged "Elton Rose". He could well have been right, in that GNR didn't need to go so OTT as UYI. Niv thought it was too early to do Physical Graphiti. History has proven otherwise as Nov Rain is basically the centrepiece of the show.

I think Axl got it right on Right Next Door to Hell, it's not a song about hitting someone with a bottle. Axl tackled where they were at that point, fame, money, they owned 91-2.

This is all true.

As much as it bothers Niven NovRain was a huge song. & I don't think Niven knew that Axl still wanted to do silly songs like RNDTH because Axl did not have what it takes to grow up & take things to the next level.

I hate Mick Wall but i gotta give it to him... He's absolutely right when he says that it wasn't worth to break up a band to add another 0 in his paycheck

Why do you hate Mick?

Because even though Mick might have a few points that are correct, his book about Axl is full of mistakes that are widely known, which tells me he didn't do his work correctly on checking things.

He does have a few points that Axl might not agree but that i feel are legit and correct. Such as this one i mentioned.

I'm glad you know that about Mick because I feel the same. His book is a joke, full of inaccuracies & mostly pointless, everything he wrote about was just stuff we already knew. But I did hear him on the radio & he made a few good points about Axl that were very interesting to learn. So he's not totally clueless.

We have to admit that Axl has completely destroyed the good name of Guns N'Roses with his antics and let's face it, for this it would be better if GNR didn't even exist at this point.

No, we don't have to admit that. Although current affairs can not at all compare to the band's heydays, the band has still been touring successfully for a few years after releasing a new, good record back in 2008. No reason to be overly dramatic and whiny.

The good record thing is an opinion, not a fact.

The successful tour doesn't mean that the name Guns N'Roses is being honored as it should. You can have a successful shitty tour when you're in Guns N'Roses... people will pay to see Axl when he's 80 years old and can't sing anymore, just to see him one more time. A successful tour isn't the same thing as successful quality tour

So you are saying you want to boycott the band because the quality of their art isn't up to your liking? Fine, don't pay for the music, don't pay for the shows. We are all free to enjoy the art we like. And we all automatically don't buy the art that we don't like. It is sort of how it all works. Man, there are thousands of bands I "boycott" in this way.

No. I'm saying we should boycott the band, because it doesn't match the quality of the name Guns N'Roses in anyway. It's a façade.

It doesn't cut it on albums, on professionalism, on tours etc... it's not just the music...This is the most unprofessional band iv ever seen, and that's saying something...

- the fact Axl spent so many years working on Chinese Democracy, and didn't even care to change the vocals on the songs (which were recorded when he was out of shape) tells a whole lot about it...or even re-record the whole album from scratch when he finally had all the ideas in place.

And this is a person who said he wouldn't throw us a brick... lol

I agree with this.

He tried to get Axl sacked from the band before UYI. Bad move.

Yeah I know about that, who did he think would replace Axl?

I hate Mick Wall but i gotta give it to him... He's absolutely right when he says that it wasn't worth to break up a band to add another 0 in his paycheck

Why do you hate Mick?

No he should not. The Guns N Roses name itself is well documented as being Axl's when it first formed. Had Slash and Steven not ended up on the Seattle gig because Traci Guns (the only person with a legit beef, regarding the Guns N Roses name since his last name is the first word in the band name, but has no legal grounds since he quit, walked away, and gave Axl his blessing to keep the name) bailed on the band, had Axl, Izzy and Duff found another guitar player and drummer, there'd only be two original members. Axl n' Izzy. And Izzy doesn't want it, was never his to begin with to make a claim to it. Axl started GNR, continued and fought for GNR, to his near ruin. Something Slash obviously was never willing to do. Duff and Izzy either. Izzy, intelligently, chose life, and sobriety over GNR, and if you want to point fingers here, I'd point them directly at Slash and Duff as the two main drug and alcohol antagonists that didn't even try to assist there so called friend by at least attempting to keep the smack and booze directly out of Izzys face. And then Duff, again, another smart move, was also at the time he decided to hang it up making the choice to sobriety for his health and because he now had children. He absolutely needed to leave the lifestyle behind if he wanted a future with his family. And Slash straight up quit because Axl and Duff didn't want to agree with him becoming the predominant songwriter along with Axl. Axl and Duff both agreed they didn't care for Slash's southern rock direction he was all or nothing pushing. And felt they needed to bring in another strong songwriter into the fold, Slash felt that songwriter was himself. When they didn't cave in to his threats he quit. Plain and simple. And yes, Axl is not without his own level of guilt the way he tried to take over. But really, that began during the AFD recordings and continued thru UYI or we would have never gotten songs like SCOM, November Rain, Estranged ect, onto the albums being that Duff and Slash are on record as stating they were against these type of songs, especially SCOM from ever being on a GNR record. So yeah, I think he's deserved and earned the right to keep the name if nothing more than by bringing the name to the band, taking a leadership role when everyone else in the band was to fucked up to take care of themselves, much less lead a successful rock band, or even have any insightful or helpful input. Being the only one who never quit his band, and fighting for it for decades without backing down, while suffering tremendous personal loss in doing so.

I don't understand how there are still people that don't get that Guns N Roses was the sum of it's parts: 5 guys (we all know who those 5 guys are).

Exactly.

It used to bother me that Axl was soiling the GNR name like he has, but of late it has become apparent that the name was really his punishment for unparalleled hubris when he decided to keep it in the first place.

His career is in the toilet, he is a joke to the general public and he now looks like a bizarre cross between Paul Teuttel from American Chopper and Vince Neil.

Karma has kicked Axl's ass backwards and forwards, and he is one of the few people you can say generally deserves the mess that has become his career.

For all his protestations to the contrary, Axl has been revealed as the biggest money lover of them all.

The GNR name meant nothing more to him than a free meal ticket for life to tour around on Slash/Duff/Izzy/Adler's music because he deep down was too afraid and lazy to ever start a new chapter of his career.

Had someone told me a decade ago Axl would surpass even Steven Adler as far as living in the past and just touring around anywhere he could book to churn out the hits I would have refused to believe it.

Every setback and humiliation he has encountered this past decade has been nature's way of telling true GNR fans it has our backs, and that if he wants to continue perpetuating this sham he will continue to run into nothing but problems and roadblocks as he has.

^^

Alan Niven, any thoughts on the guy?

I think he did a great job getting GNR where they were, it was a shame he had to leave because if anything I think GNR could still use a guy like him to help keep the band on track & pushing them when they needed to be pushed.

It was claimed that he was fired because he was only in it for the money, but it was his job to do what he had to in order for them to succeed & for that he had to be paid. That's like saying Duff's only in it for the money, it's their job & they all get paid to do their job.

I like Alan, but I read Slash didn't towards the end & Axl just plain hated him. & even David Geffen himself was always upset with Alan about something or another.

People in the industry say that Niven was a slimy guy who put him self before the band & negotiated a bad deal when they first got signed & only re-negotiated the deal with Geffen after AFD took off & he realized how much money he was losing by not asking for a new contract.

Niven says that the only way a reunion would ever happen is if you locked all 5 guys in a room together & let them sort it out & you don't open the door until they do. He also says that a reunion will never happen & I agree.

I think there is something fishy about the guy (even though I kinda like him) because they never used him for Velvet Revolver, in fact they never worked with him on any project they ever did since firing him.

I think Izzy wanted nothing to do with him after the JuJuHounds because of a bad contract again or something.

Maybe he's the only type of personality who could have taken on a band like GNR in the beginning, maybe all the "normal" managers just didn't have the balls to wrestle the GNR beast.

How do you feel about him & the band managers that GNR has had since?

& do you think that Slash's manager over promotes Slash?

Adios.

Full Metal Jacket.

The first time I watched it I was mesmerized, I was really fascinated by it & completely drawn in. You have no idea how many times I've watched it over & over.

& A Clockwork Orange was also great but it took repeated viewings for me to finally accept it as one of my favorites

I get the feeling Axl is in a strong position material wise. That's something Axl said that after the first band broke up there wasn't anything, he didn't want to be in that position again. So maybe now there never will be completely fresh set of songs, they will be working on a bunch of them and then if the label and them reach an agreement they will release a strong set of songs. Ron might not be excited by Atlas or the old stuff but the fans would be. Tommy and Dj might want to do a new record but the fans would take The General or an Axl epic in a heartbeat with it was written yesterday or 2 decades ago.

I know the band & the fans want it so wth is Axl waiting for? the planets to align?!

There's another album's worth of material, probably more, that Axl hasn't released, he went over song titles (subject to change) in one of the chats.

He's still under contract with Universal, this also came up after ChiDem was released and more recently with the Vegas DVD, but they've had a rocky history with ChiDem delays and the lawsuit over the Greatest Hits (among other things).

Axl hasn't been blacklisted, but GNR isn't on Interscope's roster of artists on their website because there's been nothing new to promote, or no any reissues in the immediate future. That could change.

MSL got himself in over his head with info he obtained that could've turned into GNR Wikileaks.

There's 2 people who know "what" the follow up to ChiDem is - Caram and Axl. A lot of people have heard the unreleased stuff, some of which almost wound up on ChiDem.

GNR Wikileaks!!? how deep does this rabbit hole go. eheh!

I know that you want new music..... but haven't you realized that Axl & Co don't have any. NOTHING! NADA! the vaults are empty.

People believe that Axl is sitting on a mountain of music & not releasing it, where as I believe he has parts of songs & some weak riffs & maybe a melody or a jumbled mess of lyrics, but that's not enough for a album. I have seen Van Halen digging up scraps from Eddie's vault for an album & they didn't have anything great.Secondly, I can not believe ANY studio even considering working with Axl again in this life time after the mess of the last album.

I think every studio that Axl went to told him, he either get's 'the old line up together' or the studios are not interested. Axl has a bad reputation & everyone in the music biz knows that & they stay away from him because of it, his work ethic & attitude are as outdated as VHS tapes. No one wants to work with that kind of mentality anymore.In all honesty do you think Axl has been blacklisted in the music industry, after the CD debacle?Don't get me wrong, I love Axl & I'm not trolling (at least I think I'm not) but I can't understand why you can't see HE HAS NO NEW MUSIC.

Whatever songs NuGnr have, are mostly junk or not up to Axl's standard or some such thing.

& his management team are appalling & useless, if he wants to be taken seriously again he needs new management.

If he wants to keep his current manager & stay as he is, then he deserve what he gets.

Or do you believe he has new music but he can't get a record deal?

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Was I ranting?

I'm asking you this question because I believe your sincere about what your saying, but as to your belief that there is no new music.

What about the full length demo album of all new material Axl handed over to the label in 2010?

I know that you want new music..... but haven't you realized that Axl & Co don't have any. NOTHING! NADA! the vaults are empty.

People believe that Axl is sitting on a mountain of music & not releasing it, where as I believe he has parts of songs & some weak riffs & maybe a melody or a jumbled mess of lyrics, but that's not enough for a album. I have seen Van Halen digging up scraps from Eddie's vault for an album & they didn't have anything great.Secondly, I can not believe ANY studio even considering working with Axl again in this life time after the mess of the last album.

I think every studio that Axl went to told him, he either get's 'the old line up together' or the studios are not interested. Axl has a bad reputation & everyone in the music biz knows that & they stay away from him because of it, his work ethic & attitude are as outdated as VHS tapes. No one wants to work with that kind of mentality anymore.In all honesty do you think Axl has been blacklisted in the music industry, after the CD debacle?Don't get me wrong, I love Axl & I'm not trolling (at least I think I'm not) but I can't understand why you can't see HE HAS NO NEW MUSIC.

Whatever songs NuGnr have, are mostly junk or not up to Axl's standard or some such thing.

& his management team are appalling & useless, if he wants to be taken seriously again he needs new management.

If he wants to keep his current manager & stay as he is, then he deserve what he gets.

Or do you believe he has new music but he can't get a record deal?

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Was I ranting?

I'm asking you this question because I believe your sincere about what your saying, but as to your belief that there is no new music.

What about the full length demo album of all new material Axl handed over to the label in 2010?

If it exists...was it leaked? is it on youtube?

I have never read anything about an 2010 album, unfortunately.

I think every studio that Axl went to told him, he either get's 'the old line up together' or the studios are not interested. Axl has a bad reputation & everyone in the music biz knows that & they stay away from him because of it, his work ethic & attitude are as outdated as VHS tapes. No one wants to work with that kind of mentality anymore.

Studio? Axl was under contract to Geffen/Universal. Films deal with STUDIOS (aside from recording). Bands deal with RECORD LABELS.

Forgive me.

Okay that's interesting.

I understand that they were in the studio for a long time & bit's & pieces must have come out of that, but I still can not believe that anything of any value was created during that time & maybe some of the old members who were fired from NuGnr told Axl that he could not use any of that stuff since they were fired/quit.

Or Axl would have used it on CD, He used the best stuff he had for that album. Anything that was left out simply wasn't good enough.

I always assumed that when Axl or someone would say stuff like "We have about 57 songs done." That what they were really saying was that they had stuff that could be turned into a song, so in reality they had 57 potential songs. It's like they have to say this stuff to the media/press/fans so it looks like they are actually producing something & working on something instead of just sitting around.

I sometime wonder if after GNR broke up Axl never really had any good material & was desperately trying to rework songs to make them in to something half decent. He can't write alone & as he bought in more & more people to work with, who had very different styles of writing & ways of working he knew that everything he had could never be fixed up & made in to a great song because these were the wrong people to have fixing songs. They played a very different style of rock compared to the gritty style that was GNR.

What ever songs the guys in NuGnr had they probably used for their solo projects, if they had something really hot Axl would have played it in concert to test how the fans would react, but they don't have anything. Yeah they spend a lot of time together but that doesn't mean that they were busy writing songs for GNR.

I think people say a lot of things about how many songs Axl has when in reality he has no finished songs that are up to the GNR standards or that he even likes. Perhaps he also feels that putting out a new album would require him to sing to a certain standard that he can no longer do & would be ashamed to present to fans. A sad reality for singers & fans is that the singer is the first to show signs of wear & tear.

I can forgive a sloppy solo from a lead guitarist.

But it hurts me to hear Axl sing these days because his voice is not what it use to be.

I know that you want new music..... but haven't you realized that Axl & Co don't have any. NOTHING! NADA! the vaults are empty.

People believe that Axl is sitting on a mountain of music & not releasing it, where as I believe he has parts of songs & some weak riffs & maybe a melody or a jumbled mess of lyrics, but that's not enough for a album. I have seen Van Halen digging up scraps from Eddie's vault for an album & they didn't have anything great.

Secondly, I can not believe ANY studio even considering working with Axl again in this life time after the mess of the last album.

I think every studio that Axl went to told him, he either get's 'the old line up together' or the studios are not interested. Axl has a bad reputation & everyone in the music biz knows that & they stay away from him because of it, his work ethic & attitude are as outdated as VHS tapes. No one wants to work with that kind of mentality anymore.

In all honesty do you think Axl has been blacklisted in the music industry, after the CD debacle?

Don't get me wrong, I love Axl & I'm not trolling (at least I think I'm not) but I can't understand why you can't see HE HAS NO NEW MUSIC.

Whatever songs NuGnr have, are mostly junk or not up to Axl's standard or some such thing.

& his management team are appalling & useless, if he wants to be taken seriously again he needs new management.

If he wants to keep his current manager & stay as he is, then he deserve what he gets.

Or do you believe he has new music but he can't get a record deal?

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Was I ranting?