Boring, uninspired, decently arranged and produced (maybe slightly overproduced in the mix) but this is just CD all over again. This is not GNR. Never will be. It's just Axl with different session musicians once again. 

Beautiful camera work by the crew, absolutely top notch. The band in great spirits, Axl truly shines before he burned his voice in the coming summer tour. Duff already in trouble, floating like balloon, some funny moments 😂 Izzy still shows some interest and involvement, nice sound in the mix.  Matt (of whom I am absolutely NO FAN) actually has some swing and swagger in some arrangements/fills and doesn't have that annoying, disgusting "heavy stomp hand" that developed later on yet.

Great to see Shannon in HD and have a good time with the band. 

Overall a historically important show for the band, the lightning in a bottle magic still shows up here and there, despite a super-sober Izzy and lack of Popcorn - before it all quickly went to hell in the following months. I'm glad they released it in all its quality glory, thank you guys 🙏.

Imagine if we could see shows of such video/audio quality with Steven on it, it'd be heaven. Alas.... some things in the VAULT will never see the light of day. But hey, one can always hope.

The first pre-AFD-release show I ever watched on a bootleg VHS back in the days... still one of my favourites. Nightrain is an obvious highlight, just perfect.

Bump - 

Any further news/developments on this, @Steve1899???

Got a listen, it's not bad at all, surprised me there.

Pros: Catchy chorus. Somehow reminds me of Crash Diet at times... Good job by Axl. 

Negs: A touch sterile composition and arrangements (too much of that chorus in the end...). Lacks a bit of uumph and texture (i.e.  missing Steven's and Izzy's touch). 

41 minutes ago, Steve1899 said:

The first Marquee night is definitely incomplete but I don't know anymore how much I recorded. The second is complete with a lot of other footage from that night. Same goes for the Hammersmith.

Holy crap, once again if this is legit, please do release it all in some form. Hope the current band management doesn't get to hear of it, cuz we all know what's gonna happen then. 

OMG, please let this be true. And if so, please, I beg of you good people of Earth to try and work in unison to bring such precious diamonds to shed enlightenment to all of us. 

A simple gaze at the best RNR band in history being close, so very close to their peak... just getting ecstatic at the thought of what it would be like. Photos and audio alone have sufficed for 34 years, but a video source. It would be like finding the Fountain of Youth...

Hype as in expectation/desire?

Suuuure... for me would be One in A Million.

Live Whisky a Go Go 08/01/87

UYI boxset, with all the backstage stuff that Robert John mentioned. Uncensored. 

November Rain.

Cool, thanks. Watched it the first time as it came out and could never find it again... some good stuff.

Man, I just pray and hope Marc gets to release some of the Golden Vault stuff... 

2 hours ago, WildStar said:

Nothing will top the 90's performances.

I think you meant to say "nothing will top the '87-88 performances.

Seriously? Fuck this band right now. 

And what's Axl's beef with Trump anyway? If anything, the dude is definitely more active against pedophiles than any of his predecessors... thought Axl would care a bit about that?

I'm not a US citizen, I couldn't care less about US politics/politicians... they're all pieces of shit at the end of the day. But man, seeing this kind of cheap political antics forced on the glorious musical past of a band like GNR sure is pissing me off. 

All those mentioned above are obvious picks.

I'm surprised no one mentioned the solo in Don't Cry: fits the song like a fucking glove. Just perfect.

Just now, DTJ80 said:

I did find it odd the reference to only 2 shows.

Exactly, how can Slash say "I'll never forget that week building up to it" then forget 1 show? Was it because the first one was allegedly a shit show? 

Wait, why they (including Slash) keep saying 2 shows? I always thought it was 3 gigs at the Marquee? 

If a video really exists, with them before soundcheck and all, it will probably never be published cuz deemed too politically incorrect or some BS like that... I mean, just look how they erased One in a Million off the AFD anniversary, as if it never happened. 

On 29/01/2020 at 5:29 PM, t-p-d-a said:

Marquee '87 (Audio Disc) and Ritz '88 (Blu Ray) are the most realistic possible shows that can be offically released. It's there, somewhere. it exists but they dont release it, i dont know why

Cuz yesterday's got nothing for me...

Ideal? AFD5, no extended solos, no covers and please, play in clubs only. 

On 24/12/2019 at 12:34 PM, UcudBmine said:

I don't know man. I used to agree with the point of Sorum being dull. But his drumming on UYI is still growing on me every time I listen to these albums. I'm not sure if all of UYI would've worked with Steven. If you compare Civil War to the other tracks, it doesn't sound as full as anything with Sorum on it. I could be completely off, but Sorum did a pretty good job there.

 

Civil War has the best drums (in terms of GNR sound) of the whole UYI double LP.... 

IMHO Steven's arrangement always felt "baby-like", it added that cartoonish vibe to the whole formula - typical of young musicians. Sorum's drumming sounds like a boring old man in comparison. Take Don't Cry for example... it's too mature on the record. A big part of that magic naïveté of the song is completely altered and lost. 

One of the factors that in my opinion also consumed GNR was the growing old... too fast. Too seriously. Something that's never really mentioned, but it's true. 

44 minutes ago, Zinia_29 said:

A 10 episode netflix special with bootlegs? Holy crap that would be beyond amazing!! And Axl doesn't care about money or fame that much, that's for sure. He doesn't like attention. Otherwise he could easily brandises himself as Ozzie.

Personal opinion: that would suck. It would have to include commentary or some kind of personalised story, which makes no sense as it would have to be fiction.

You gonna include the coke sniffing, alcohol-puke floor licking and groupies etc? No? Then what's the point - it's sandbagged fiction. If you do, then it's likely gonna alter the way this band is perceived for 95% of the world and make the GNR staff (musicians et al) relive the worst moments of that madness.

Just give us the gigs. 

On 18/12/2019 at 9:00 AM, action said:

guns n roses are an utterly tragic band. Let's face it, they only made one truly great album: their first. They could be the next rolling stones, but they threw it all away. They are passively and actively destroying their career.

But they act like they are bigger than the stones. They'll never be like the stones. The stones treat their fans well, see all the official bootlegs that they are releasing. I effectively can't keep up with their brilliant concert releases.

 

Tragic, yes. 

UYI is truly great too (minus a few tracks, which taken singularly are actually still decent). The problem was a dull drummer who had NOTHING to do with the original formula. Killed and ruined the swing in so many wonderful tunes. And yes, over-production at times likely due to Axl's state of mind back then. 

As for the Stones... well, different band, different music, different attitude. Even in their prime (GNR), the comparison never even made any sense at all. 1987-GNR just utterly destroys anything the Stones ever did, IMHO. 

Sheesh, they're really trying to cash in as if it's the end of the world soon eh?

Think there may have been a few of these kind of threads before.... 🤔 but here goes me.

I remember seeing/hearing PC and SCOM on tv/radio in 1989 or so, but I was too hooked on Dire Straits and Queen back then (I was 9 yo) to really appreciate what was going on (although shirts and all sorts of gadgets were already circulating in Italy as well, I always thought what a strange name for a band 😂)... until I saw YCBM with Arnold. Immediate new heroes. 🥳