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Wow...the David Bowie dinner part explains a lot.

Slash will bring back "The Godfather" guitar solo. Duff will bring back "Attitude." Chris will bring back the towel solo.

To his credit, Chris seems to be the only member capable of getting Axl in a studio.

The towel solo!! Aaaahahaha!!

I hope this is being documented...from the first meeting to rehearsals to the first walk on stage together after 23 years.

Probably Marc Canter dusted out his old VHS camera and capturing all this.

Man he's annoying....free ride pitman.

So people didn't bekieve Duff's wife's drunk friend huh..?

Duff Rose "the king of vitamin water"

Is back!!!

They both use Ashba swag.

Slash wears that beanie too.

That was fuckin ' amazing

Marc will you be at Coachella?

If Im invited, I would love to go but would only go for one night not both but I wouldn't want to be there if I'm not wanted. Also there is a really good Italian restaurant out there called Albertoes its on Highway 111 in Rancho Mirage. I would love to eat dinner there and then see the band making magic on the stage headlining where they belong.

Cool man I hope you make it and keep recording rock n roll history!

Marc will you be at Coachella?

People at Coachella when they see Richard on stage are gonna think Izzy hasn't aged since 1987

Everyone who I would trust at both this forum and other forums made it clear that Ron and DJ left entirely of their own desire, and were in no way doing it to "avoid the inevitable" or "make way for a GN'R reunion." Ron pissed and moaned about the lack of activity from Guns N' Roses since 2010, and really started ramping it up and bad mouthing the band's decision (i.e. playing private gigs) in 2012. In 2013, he flat out stated that if the situation forced him to choose between Guns N' Roses and his solo career, the solo career wins. Clearly, the lack of definite plans and the fact that Axl did not seem to want to work with Ron-penned songs drove him to choose the solo career path. Luckily, Ron was not the type of guy to leave the band belly-up and chose to finish up touring through 2014.

All signs pointed that DJ was still fully invovled with GN'R, but when it came to choose between Sixx A.M. - who had two albums and a tour coming up in the wake of Crue ending - and Guns N' Roses - who had no definite plans following the final Las Vegas residency - DJ chose Sixx A.M. despite all his assurances that he "had Axl's back." He chose money - pure and simple. Any grandstanding he does that he stepped aside to let the old members back in remains him sucking up to the media; probably because he knows Axl would never set the record straight.

My guess would be the relationship between Axl and Slash started to thaw with the agreement to sign off on Appetite for Democracy, and things got even better when Perla (who everyone pretty much describes as a svengali) left the picture. As downzy said, when faced with the choice of hiring two brand new unknown guitarists (which would mean then having two of three guitar players who had NO relationship to Chinese Democracy-era music) or just calling it a day and getting back with Duff (who was already cool with Axl) and Slash (who seemed in a better place with Axl and has been so desperate to get back in the band that he would probably agree to just about any terms) Axl chose the easier and - frankly - more sensible option.

downzy:

Out of pure personal curiosity, what is the current relationship between Axl and DJ? Do they communicate at all? Does Axl feel betrayed and pissed at DJ the way he did when Izzy left the band in 1991 or Slash later down the road? Or is it more like Robin, where Axl is willing to just move down the line and, perhaps someday, meet up with DJ again? It seems like Axl and DJ got pretty close and DJ took over the "right hand man" function, so I cannot imagine Axl took his abandonment lightly. From what I've heard, Axl really dug Robin as a musician and friend, but Robin always kept a distance of sorts from the other band members so it was not as huge a blow when he jumped ship to Nine Inch Nails.

Great post.

As for your question, I have no idea. Like I said, I came into some information in July of last year that gave me a pretty good idea of what the game plan was for 2016. Obviously things have changed and my ability to get more information ended when all contacts stopped returning our questions. I completely understand the lack of communication considering the nature of what we now know was going on behind the scene with respect to Axl and Slash and a possible reunion. The last I heard was that DJ quit early to mid July and the news was met by Axl with disappointment and surprise. I have no idea whether they are still amicable or whether they still talk (I'd have a hard time believing they do, but again, that's just a guess). If I had to guess, DJ left for the reasons you stated and perhaps also felt as though his music contributions weren't be considered by Axl as much as DJ would have liked.

Alpachiris is the guy who runs that forum. I think he goes by GNRLA on here. They have very good ties with Bumblefoot over the years and always meet up with him when they go to South America.

I do not believe at all...that in 2 months they got this reunion set up, just counting the amount of time needed for the legal contracts and compromise to clear out of the way.

TB can say one thing today...and turn it around tomorrow...just like the Kimmel booking...."oh no no...it was not booked no no"

Well, why do you think the Kimmel booking fell through? Probably because there's still details that have yet to be confirmed. As Trunk argued in his blog post yesterday, they're likely still finalizing legal matters. Perhaps they were optimistic that everything would be sorted by Jan 5th to allow Axl to be a guest on Kimmel, but maybe it didn't pan out.

We also have members of the staff who have good ties and at no point did Ron tell any of them that he quit because he knew a reunion was going to happen.

I believe its been on for a while, the timing of Duff coming back the wheels where set in motion.

I don't disagree that there have been forces behind the reunion, but I firmly believe that Axl did not indulge in the idea until August of last year, or soon after he found out that he'd have to replace not one but two guitarists. Perhaps people associated with Slash and Duff were working towards this goal, but I don't think anyone with or in GNR was seriously considering it until this past summer.

So...they did in 4 months what they couldn't do in 20 years? Not buying it.

Lets see if someday the truth comes out from the horses mouth.

It was never attempted in the last 20 years. You're right, it's surprising they could pull this together (though, I still don't think everything has been finalized), but you're conflating the matter. Perhaps once Axl gave his permission to explore the possibility with Slash efforts were made to have everything settled to land the Coachella payday. Who knows. All I know with certainty was that as of July 2015, Axl's primary concern was releasing a new album with the band he thought he had.

Weiland said that contracts was on the table ready to sing while he was in VR. Also latter we learn that Slash presented some VR hits to GNR, and he was supposed to contribute in a couple of songs on CD.

Also, the GNRLA mod said that was TB who was after the reunion, not Axl.

Do you ppl remember the 2010 Duff incident at the hotel?

Bada bing!

Spot on...

TB controls Axl.

Everyone who I would trust at both this forum and other forums made it clear that Ron and DJ left entirely of their own desire, and were in no way doing it to "avoid the inevitable" or "make way for a GN'R reunion." Ron pissed and moaned about the lack of activity from Guns N' Roses since 2010, and really started ramping it up and bad mouthing the band's decision (i.e. playing private gigs) in 2012. In 2013, he flat out stated that if the situation forced him to choose between Guns N' Roses and his solo career, the solo career wins. Clearly, the lack of definite plans and the fact that Axl did not seem to want to work with Ron-penned songs drove him to choose the solo career path. Luckily, Ron was not the type of guy to leave the band belly-up and chose to finish up touring through 2014.

All signs pointed that DJ was still fully invovled with GN'R, but when it came to choose between Sixx A.M. - who had two albums and a tour coming up in the wake of Crue ending - and Guns N' Roses - who had no definite plans following the final Las Vegas residency - DJ chose Sixx A.M. despite all his assurances that he "had Axl's back." He chose money - pure and simple. Any grandstanding he does that he stepped aside to let the old members back in remains him sucking up to the media; probably because he knows Axl would never set the record straight.

My guess would be the relationship between Axl and Slash started to thaw with the agreement to sign off on Appetite for Democracy, and things got even better when Perla (who everyone pretty much describes as a svengali) left the picture. As downzy said, when faced with the choice of hiring two brand new unknown guitarists (which would mean then having two of three guitar players who had NO relationship to Chinese Democracy-era music) or just calling it a day and getting back with Duff (who was already cool with Axl) and Slash (who seemed in a better place with Axl and has been so desperate to get back in the band that he would probably agree to just about any terms) Axl chose the easier and - frankly - more sensible option.

downzy:

Out of pure personal curiosity, what is the current relationship between Axl and DJ? Do they communicate at all? Does Axl feel betrayed and pissed at DJ the way he did when Izzy left the band in 1991 or Slash later down the road? Or is it more like Robin, where Axl is willing to just move down the line and, perhaps someday, meet up with DJ again? It seems like Axl and DJ got pretty close and DJ took over the "right hand man" function, so I cannot imagine Axl took his abandonment lightly. From what I've heard, Axl really dug Robin as a musician and friend, but Robin always kept a distance of sorts from the other band members so it was not as huge a blow when he jumped ship to Nine Inch Nails.

Great post.

As for your question, I have no idea. Like I said, I came into some information in July of last year that gave me a pretty good idea of what the game plan was for 2016. Obviously things have changed and my ability to get more information ended when all contacts stopped returning our questions. I completely understand the lack of communication considering the nature of what we now know was going on behind the scene with respect to Axl and Slash and a possible reunion. The last I heard was that DJ quit early to mid July and the news was met by Axl with disappointment and surprise. I have no idea whether they are still amicable or whether they still talk (I'd have a hard time believing they do, but again, that's just a guess). If I had to guess, DJ left for the reasons you stated and perhaps also felt as though his music contributions weren't be considered by Axl as much as DJ would have liked.

Alpachiris is the guy who runs that forum. I think he goes by GNRLA on here. They have very good ties with Bumblefoot over the years and always meet up with him when they go to South America.

I do not believe at all...that in 2 months they got this reunion set up, just counting the amount of time needed for the legal contracts and compromise to clear out of the way.

TB can say one thing today...and turn it around tomorrow...just like the Kimmel booking...."oh no no...it was not booked no no"

Well, why do you think the Kimmel booking fell through? Probably because there's still details that have yet to be confirmed. As Trunk argued in his blog post yesterday, they're likely still finalizing legal matters. Perhaps they were optimistic that everything would be sorted by Jan 5th to allow Axl to be a guest on Kimmel, but maybe it didn't pan out.

We also have members of the staff who have good ties and at no point did Ron tell any of them that he quit because he knew a reunion was going to happen.

I believe its been on for a while, the timing of Duff coming back the wheels where set in motion.

I don't disagree that there have been forces behind the reunion, but I firmly believe that Axl did not indulge in the idea until August of last year, or soon after he found out that he'd have to replace not one but two guitarists. Perhaps people associated with Slash and Duff were working towards this goal, but I don't think anyone with or in GNR was seriously considering it until this past summer.

So...they did in 4 months what they couldn't do in 20 years? Not buying it.

Lets see if someday the truth comes out from the horses mouth.

Alpachiris is the guy who runs that forum. I think he goes by GNRLA on here. They have very good ties with Bumblefoot over the years and always meet up with him when they go to South America.

I do not believe at all...that in 2 months they got this reunion set up, just counting the amount of time needed for the legal contracts and compromise to clear out of the way.

TB can say one thing today...and turn it around tomorrow...just like the Kimmel booking...."oh no no...it was not booked no no"

Well, why do you think the Kimmel booking fell through? Probably because there's still details that have yet to be confirmed. As Trunk argued in his blog post yesterday, they're likely still finalizing legal matters. Perhaps they were optimistic that everything would be sorted by Jan 5th to allow Axl to be a guest on Kimmel, but maybe it didn't pan out.

We also have members of the staff who have good ties and at no point did Ron tell any of them that he quit because he knew a reunion was going to happen.

I believe its been on for a while, the timing of Duff coming back the wheels where set in motion.

Alpachiris is the guy who runs that forum. I think he goes by GNRLA on here. They have very good ties with Bumblefoot over the years and always meet up with him when they go to South America.

I do not believe at all...that in 2 months they got this reunion set up, just counting the amount of time needed for the legal contracts and compromise to clear out of the way.

TB can say one thing today...and turn it around tomorrow...just like the Kimmel booking...."oh no no...it was not booked no no"

This was in the works since GNR played last in Argentina 2014, at the time DUFF was in for full gigs.

The guy that runs the forum at GNRLA.COM had a sit down with Ron in Buenos Aires and he spilled the beans.

Basically Ron said TB was working towards the reunion, and that somehow it was a sad situation how TB was handling with Axl and his medication.

You can clearly see he was not well at the Golden Gods performance.

DJ stepped aside knowingly what was going on, and Bumble just kept his mouth shut because he know what was going on.

None of that happened. As I said, as of July of 2015 Axl was still very much interested in releasing a new album in 2016 with at least DJ supporting it. DJ's departure was not something that Axl saw coming or approved.

Oh the sit down did happen...you might just have been told something else.

This was in the works since GNR played last in Argentina 2014, at the time DUFF was in for full gigs.

The guy that runs the forum at GNRLA.COM had a sit down with Ron in Buenos Aires and he spilled the beans.

Basically Ron said TB was working towards the reunion, and that somehow it was a sad situation how TB was handling with Axl and his medication.

You can clearly see he was not well at the Golden Gods performance.

DJ stepped aside knowingly what was going on, and Bumble just kept his mouth shut because he know what was going on.

Holy SHIT!!! there's gonna be a SMKC III ? .................................

They really should be careful not to make this look like a big cashgrab thing though. The rumoured prices for the shows and tickets and now this. This is Stones money. And as much as I love GnR... they are not the Stones.

Fuckin' Right they're not the Stones, THEY'RE BETTER!

Came to say this, anyone who disagrees can just go %%%%. If they dont agree I dare them to name at least 5 or 10 memorable songs and sing along to at least 2 of them. Yeah... that's too hard right? Never got the reason they are/were "big"

They really should be careful not to make this look like a big cashgrab thing though. The rumoured prices for the shows and tickets and now this. This is Stones money. And as much as I love GnR... they are not the Stones.

Fuckin' Right they're not the Stones, THEY'RE BETTER!

FUCKIN' RIGHT X 2!!!

i take SCOM and WTTJ riff over anything written by Kieth

I really hate obsessed fanboys like this who can't make the distinction between their personal opinions and what a band has actually accomplished. I love GnR, but I stick by the cashgrab statement. You do a reunion tour and you put prices on it that are on the same level as the most expensive tickets that the biggest rock and roll band in history (certainly in terms of lenglevity as well as success) have ever asked. That stuff can leave a lot of people with a faul taste in their mouths. No, not you, of course. But mygnr members and their opinions don't sell out stadiums.

Well keep hating bitch...cause thats the truth.

Matt deserves to be there.. but he dug his own grave with Axl over the years.

Well Matt din't say anything wrong, whatever he said were the actual facts. Like that Axl hated Slash, he was the devil and all, but still they are working together and leaving Matt out of this? Slash and Duff are very close to Matt, so its very surprising how they agreed, from what I see, this whole thing is a business plan.

Well Slash's ex-wife took half of his money...so I think Slash would agree to this in a heart beat and make 3 times more of what he had.

Matt deserves to be there.. but he dug his own grave with Axl over the years.

They really should be careful not to make this look like a big cashgrab thing though. The rumoured prices for the shows and tickets and now this. This is Stones money. And as much as I love GnR... they are not the Stones.

Fuckin' Right they're not the Stones, THEY'RE BETTER!

FUCKIN' RIGHT X 2!!!

i take SCOM and WTTJ riff over anything written by Kieth

So...press release yesterday and its not trending...

Maybe a little too late..?

If this was 2001 or 2006 would've been 1000 times bigger.

Oh please..don't give Fernando his own thread...don't validate him as a manager. He's not.

so, who is then?

They haven't had one for a while now....they just kinda..blindfold themselves jerk off and see what comes out..

Oh please..don't give Fernando his own thread...don't validate him as a manager. He's not.