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  1. Pitman wants his 5 bucks so that he can buy a 6 pack of bud and post another drunken tweet.

    On 9/14/2016 at 4:22 AM, maynard said:

    Axl deserves this. He should've known since the beginning that ending GNR and hiring a lot of nobodies to play for him would come back to bite him in the ass sooner or later. Stupid mofo wasted his best years surrounded by assholes making shitty music. Should've apologized  to Slash a long time ago.

    How can anyone call DJ Ashba an asshole?

  2. 23 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

    How many cohesive long players did they produce? Aftermath perhaps? The first three (United Kingdom) albums are dominated by covers and the band got lost in psychedelia and music hall whimsy on Between the Buttons and Their Satanic Majesties Request. Aftermath aside, Beggars Banquet was (arguably) the Stones first bona fide masterpiece. Further, the band peaked as a live band during the Mick Taylor era, 1969 - 73.

    Bill Wyman says he wrote the riff in Jack Flash and Mick Taylor was shafted out of songwriting credits throughout, on songs such as ''Moonlight Mile'' and ''Winter''. It is conceivable that Brian should have gotten songwriting credits.

    Beggars Banquet was Brian's album - Mick Jagger said so himself. Jigsaw Puzzle, Street Fighting Man, No Expectations, Parachute Woman - his unique musical abilities are all over these songs. 

    Aftermath is the best album that they ever did in my opinion. Those first three albums may be dominated by covers and some original gems, but listen to something like 2120 South Michigan Avenue - Brian's harmonica playing makes the song. 

    Other examples of the genius of Jones on the early albums

    Mona

    Down Home Girl - Lead lines

    Power chords on It's all over now

    Guitar solo on Tell Me

    All the slide and harmonica work

    Down the road apiece - guitar weaving

    Weaving on Mercy, Mercy

    Guitar lines on Heart of stone

    Acoustic rhythm on You Better Move On

    Acoustic on Satisfaction - arguably makes the song, perfect accompaniment to Keith's riff

    and many more. 

    Mick Taylor is a great lead guitarist in the Santana/Clapton vein, but he could never bring the soul like Brian did. We are all entitled to our own opinion of course. 

     

     

  3. 22 hours ago, AxlCole said:


    Are you high? 

    You're doing an awful lot of re-writing of rock history and using a lot of over-the-top rhetoric in this thread in your attempts to justify your claims that Brian Jones was the Izzy Stradlin of the Stones.  The Stones were great, but in terms of pure songwriting, they didn't come anywhere close to the genius of the Beatles.  Neither in popular measurement terms like chart success, nor technical aspects like innovative writing such as types of musical influence brought into the rock/pop world or even just chord structures etc. 

    Yes, I'm high..high on the Brian Jones era Stones music. 

  4. 16 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

    That would discount the albums Sticky Fingers and Exile though, including such songs as ''Brown Sugar'', ''Wild Horses'' and ''Tumbling Dice''? Additionally, most of Let it Bleed had been created without Jones so you could further throw in ''Gimmie Shelter''.

    Sticky Fingers and Exile are great albums - but the experimentation and colouring of the music wasn't there - Jones gave them an edge. 

    The songs that you mentioned are all classics, but they were barely out of the Jones era by that point. Jones contributed some great work on Midnight Rambler, You got the silver and was arguably involved in the arrangement of Honky Tonk Women. Keith's last hurrah in terms of great pop songwriting came with Angie. I'm trying to say that during the Jones era, the Stones could rival the Beatles in terms of genius pop songwriting with Jones bringing a variety of flavours to the mix, to make the songs stand out. 

    16 hours ago, giuls said:

    Even "Paint it, Black" Jones only did the sitar, it's great but that's it, "Satisfaction" was all Keith, on "Lady Jane" he played only the dulcimer, like, Brian was a polistrumentalist of talent and he enhanced the songs, sure, but he never actually wrote a song, that was all the Glimmer Twins, 

    Jones was arguably involved in the writing of Ruby Tuesday and the arrangement of Honky Tonk Women. Every song was credited to Jagger/Richards regardless of the involvement in writing/arranging of other members - Read Bill Wyman's book. 

  5. 21 hours ago, AxlCole said:

    You'd have a hard time making that case credibly considering the trio of records that strongly defined their sound came after Jones died and was replaced by Mick Taylor: "Goat's Head Soup", "Sticky Fingers", and what's widely considered to be their greatest record, "Exile on Main Street".  And in either case, the songs, during Brian's life and post his death, were written by Jagger and Richards.  Izzy, on the other hand, was a key writer. 

    So, no, Izzy isn't the Brian Jones of GnR.  Jones doesn't hold a candle to Izzy in importance to his band's success.

    Brian Jones made the songs. Mothers Little helper, under my thumb, ruby tuesday, tell me, no expectations, the last time, out of time, lady jane, paint it black, get off my cloud all contain signature Jones licks. The Stones were never the same after he died - their songwriting was at its peak during the jones era..after that they turned into a straight ahead rock n' roll band. The great songs stopped with Goats Head Soup and they made a comeback with Tattoo you, but after that it was over. 

    Jones started the band, gave them their name and bluesy direction - listen to the early covers and the immaculate slide guitar and harmonica playing of Jones. Izzy was the same..the heart and soul of GNR. 

  6. On 8/22/2016 at 5:26 AM, DieselDaisy said:

    They are basically average to shite separate. It is like Jagger-Richards: separate the two and you get a yuppie pop album from Sir Mick, Jagger poncing around in jogging gear, and a blues album from Keith. Now Keith's albums, unlike Mick's, are rather good but they are not The Stones. Chuck them together and you get this synergy which you associate with The Stones - especially live.

    They are f'all without Brian Jones. Izzy is the Brian Jones of GNR. 

  7. 17 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:

    I wonder if they play Newcastle. The second from last time they played Toon, old ginger bollocks, who didn't arrive on stage until 11:30pm!, got into a fit because somebody threw a coin at him, storming off stage and ending the concert early. Cost me £30 taxi home additionally.

    They don't play any venues past Watford. 

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