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1 hour ago, Ktex said:

So started around 10, right?  What time did they finish PC?

The show ended at 12.45. The band played 2h 45 min without interruption.

20 hours ago, scooby845 said:

That's all I've got... I hope you haven't seen it before...so at least it was worthwhile...

I have seen that one long time ago, hopefuly we'll see the whole show one day!

But Thank you anyway!

Is that what you got or you mean that's the show you got?

12 hours ago, scooby845 said:

 

On 20/5/2016 at 2:25 PM, scooby845 said:

I HAVE GOT a partial pro shot of show with Izzy in 1993... 

 

@mikebones

What show????

13 minutes ago, ludurigan said:

YEAH i dont like that tour very much because i cant stand GNR without izzy

but that was certainly a major improvement in every sense over the 1992 circus-tracy-roberta-zig-zag era

is here any pro shot video from that tour except argentina 1993?

i have nice audio recordings of hartford 1993, argentina 1993, and of course all the izzy 1993 shows

any others skin and bones shows that are worth listening?

I would kill for a pro-shot video of any of those Izzy's shows in 93.

51 minutes ago, Strange Broue said:

the AFD period ended in 1990

your argument is invalid

Nostalgic? Do you realise that the UYI's turned 25 years now, right?

If he just played AFD and Lies songs only, then you would have a point. (I mean Slash and Duff plays CD songs too....) It's obviously not the case so...

Your theory or wish makes zero sense, imho

yiiiiiiiiiisus... ok, my argument is invalid. It does make zero sense.

1 minute ago, Strange Broue said:

Why would he kick her out after the AC/DC shows?

 

Do you realise that this is two separate bands, right?

 

Your theory would makes absolutely no sense, because GNR performs several songs with keyboards on it plus he need some backing vocals

That's why i wrote that if he doesn't want her in the band, she wouldn't be there in the first place

 

 

My point was that the AFD line up was a raw band, no keybords or synths needed, just loud guitars as ACDC. And maybe Axl, having fun with ACDC, becomes nostalgic of that sound and wants to comeback to those days, clear now? Obviously is just a theory... or a wish.

3 minutes ago, DexAxl said:

Don't you think that GNR music is more complex than AC/DC? I mean for 40 years AC/DC did not changed shit and GNR have alot songs that have keyboards and synths and that is because Axl wanted it.

I definitely think GNR songs are more complex than ACDC songs. But I was comparing the raw sound that GNR had during the 80's. Not the piano/synths shit.

7 minutes ago, Strange Broue said:

How is this even a topic?

 

If Axl doesn't want her in the band, she wouldn't be there in the first 7 shows in the first place....

 

 

I think you need to read the topic again.

Do you think Axl will kick her out of the band after the ACDC shows?

My theory is, Axl is having a lot of fun with ACDC and ACDC makes pure rock n roll, no keyboards or synths... Would Axl consider comeback to the raw days?

Melbourne, Australia in 1988.

Is kinda pro-shot and the audio isnt that bad, but the set list is killer with AFD and Lies songs.

Besides that one i'd say Ritz 88 (obviously) and Indiana 91.

41 minutes ago, Russel Nash said:

I am a barça fan too and i strongly disagree on Ramos. He's a hell of a player, he does the dirty work. Too bad he's playing in RM.

 

I'm not saying he's a bad player, but he is a dirty player. He's been playing for RM for 10 years and he's the most sent off player and its history...

20 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

He's Sergio Ramos, I think they would let him in for free lol. I saw his Spanish team mate Cesc Fabregas at the Manchester show in 2012  

20 hours ago, Russel Nash said:

Judging his face Axl must be a Barça fan.

As a barça fan I fn' hate that picture with all my heart. The woman is a tv presenter known because she suins every show she hosts. The guy on the right is one of the most dirty player in the whole soccer universe and he plays for Madrid AND HE HAS NO CLUE ABOUT ROCK BECAUSE HE IS A FLAMENCO LOVER!

I think TSI reflects the lack of talent during that time.

19 minutes ago, FuriousStyles said:

Gilby's just a real cool cat! He knew who was driving the boat, knew whose band it was (Slash) and knew his place in it and did a real solid job. 

+1 For his Nightrain solos too!

My cat can play the first nightrain solo!

What I mean is... Gilby just played Izzy's parts, he didn't have a unique style or something in particular that make him special, you know?

When I see fortus-Slash I do feel something else, Fortus has more personality playing than Gilby.

14 hours ago, jpduff said:

Today I remembered these two interviews made while Matt and Gilby, separately, were in Brazil years ago.  Amongst many subjects, I point two:

1) Both are very nice guys, especially Gilby.

2) When Gilby pointed that the band evolved when he became a member, I thought about Fortus and Slash. They make such a talented duo, increasing the possibilites for the band. Izzy is a fabulous and unique composer, a master, and should be involved with the reunion tour. But, musically, the Slash/Gilby and Slash/Fortus duos are better for GNR.

Gilby

Matt

Part I: 

Part II: 

 

 

I don't see any evolution in the Slash-Gilby duo. I can barely listen Gilby's parts during the UYI tour.

11 hours ago, BorderlineCrazy said:

WHAT? Did I ever say Axl is a dictator for chosing Ferrer over Steven? I never did that and never would. I love Axl and, as I said like a hundred times, I think the band have the right to chose who they want to be their drummer. It'd be a shame to me if they decided to keep Steven 100% out without giving him the chance to play at least a few songs at gigs, but it's their decision and I respect it. Leaving Steven aside, I can't believe they chose to continue having a drummer who (IMO) sucks at half of the songs when there are way better drummers to play the songs, like Brent Fitz who would have been really easy to get but again, I respect their decision, even if I don't understand it and completely disagree with them.

Back to Steven, he has all the right in the world to be upset if Slash doesn't believe him when he says he's been sober for almost 2 years. He's not blaming Slash, he just want his efforts to be recognized 'cause he's working hard to finally overcome his demons. But if you take a minute to read his interview, he's taken full responsibilty for his actions, said he's the only one to blame for what happened to him and that he did this to himself, not the other guys. He also mentioned how it took them like 10-11-12 months of being sober to finally be able to think clearly. He's gone a long way and is finally doing well, he just want the other guys to acknowledge it instead of putting him down.

One last thing, none of us wanted Slash or Duff back in GNR because of what they've done in VR, SMKC or Loaded. I personally wanted them back because GNR is their band as much as Axl's and because of what they had done IN GNR. Same goes to Steven and Izzy, I want them back because this band never sounded as good to me as when those five guys were together, not because of Steven's infectious smile or because Izzy is a cool gypsy. Still I'm not complaining about how the band's doing, I'm really happy overall. I just don't understand why some people claim we don't have reasons to want these guys back when we clearly have our reasons whether you share them or not.

Tremendous applause1

3 minutes ago, Billsfan said:

"At this point in time, I will not be playing at any of the April 2016 GNR shows,"

 

 

That's a quote from rolling stone itself. He said only the April shows, he also said "at this point in time". It's not like Izzy is banned from anything GNR related, I think gnr wants him to work but he's on strike. Hopefully both sides can work something out.

OK! I was thinking about his first tweets, when he texted "at this point". Well, Fortus is in for the summer tour anyway... hope to see the guy as a guess and then step forward for the place.

10 hours ago, GNRfanMILO said:

Also, Izzy said he wasn't involved in the "April shows", so maybe the AFD 5 will be on the US leg or even the full tour... 

Did he say "April shows" or "at this point"? there's a difference right there.

18 hours ago, The Glow Inc. said:

You have to remember that Duff and Slash took the risk to fire Scott Weiland, one of the most respected rock singers, out of their band because of his drug related problems.

Do you think that after taking such a drastic decision and after the mess that was GnR for the last twenty years, they would bet on Steven Adler for an entire tour ? They didn't even bet on him for their personal side-projects during that time gap.

It's sad but it is what it is. When you are a professional musician and you get to play at that level, you don't risk losing it all on someone that inconsistent.

 

I'm not sure if Weiland was a respected singer. His own band fired him... twice.

The problem never was touring. He said that on a MTV interview. He was recently sober, the other guys were not and Axl was out of control.

13 hours ago, CardinalGunner said:

lol at those who think Duff and Adler are of equal importance.

Duff is likely the most important factor in getting these shows to happen.   

Money is the most important factor, then Duff.

14 hours ago, Modano09 said:

The majority of people who are going to be buying tickets to see Slash and Axl don't care who the drummer is either.

I do care about who is going to be the drummer, specially if the drummer is Ferrer. Another thing is since we have Axl, Slash and duff we don't complain too much about the others. If we can't have the original line up, the big 3 is enough.

One more thing axl and I have in common, TOUCH TOO MUCH!

On 24/4/2016 at 10:40 PM, downliner said:

He was now clean/sober and had to see his friends kill themselves on a daily basis, there were riots because Axl was late or whatever, they were spending millions of $$$ on music videos, he's asked to sign a contract which made him a hired hand even though he wrote the songs, he turns up in Chicago (sober) to work on UYI and finds the band in the usual disarray, the band takes so long to release UYI that Izzy can't even remember the songs they've worked on because they were recorded so long ago etc ...... Go read his interview in Vox 1991 (before he even quits Guns) and you can tell already that he was ready to checkout because of the superstar bullshit that seems to be the polar opposite of what Izzy stands for.

THIS!

What would you do if you are clean and your friends are always with drugs around you, your best friend in the band is rioting or being late the whole fn' time, you are asked about being a hired hand when you have written a huge amount of GNR anthems? That tells me a lot about Izzy's personality.