Nick Cobraetti
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18 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:
How many different sources have to confirm the back issue story before we can stop going on about conspiracy theories?
Everything else regarding syeven and gnr is just rumour!
Well, given that none of the sources were Steven...how many different sources 'confirmed' there was nothing going on with Slash & Guns
14 minutes ago, tsinindy said:No....trunk confirmed it was true. Good god...
When/where was that? All I heard him do was imply the exact opposite
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25 minutes ago, starlight said:
steven had to cancel the benefit gig with slash and it was the end of february so two months have passed..
Did he cancel or did he no-show? The reports that Steven needed surgery came out this month so it's doubtful he had it in February. Eddie Trunk made no mention of Steven's back at all, which leads me to believe the official story isn't necessarily the real story
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So is the whole surgery thing bogus? Or is he a really quick healer?
http://www.merriweathermusic.com/event/1032371-m3-rock-festival-2-day-passes-columbia/
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5 hours ago, CardinalGunner said:
Pitman seemed excited about these shows when they were announced.. something happened.
Might have been a money thing. He knew a much larger amount of $$$ was to be made here and thought he was entitled to a pay raise.. got pissed off when that was denied and was subsequently replaced by a younger (cheaper) Melissa.
Maybe his dismissal was a compromise with Slash..
I highly doubt he just walked away from the best gig he's ever had.
This
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2 minutes ago, Asia said:
I don't think he was. There were interviews with his band mates suggesting he's rahter not going to work for that band this year or will when he finds time and all will be adjusted and depending on the Guns schedule because this is the big thing that is most important right now. I wish Axl was of the same opinion but unfortunately he isn't.
Ah, ok. I hadn't heard that. Hmmm...
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30 minutes ago, Asia said:
I, on the other hand, can't believe that GNR fans are so happy and excited because the tour that they've waited for for 23 years will last half the time it could last and will include half the dates that it could include and won't include Europe because of AC/DC.
I don't think this had anything to do with the Guns tour - I'm pretty sure Slash is already booked with MKC for next month, so there weren't going to be any May tour dates in the first place
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1 hour ago, RecipeForDisaster84 said:
Just my opinion from what I read before
http://loudwire.com/guns-n-roses-manager-michael-jackson-axl-rose-slash/
The problem is that the Slash/MJ collaboration was before the MJ abuse allegations.
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11 hours ago, Patience 4 Axl said:
I highly doubt Slash and Duff would put themselves in a position again where Axl was the only one calling the shots. Been there done that. There were concessions made on both sides, Frank and that girl being the 2 most obvious. But there's no way these shows would be happening if Axl went into this with anything less than a mutual respect for Slash and Duff.
No disagreement at all. The point I was trying and failing to make was that Axl hadn't ceded any ownership but obviously none of this happens without Slash and Duff, who have every right to look out for their best interests as well. Sorry if I was unclear there
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1 hour ago, CardinalGunner said:
Well, that's your problem. You are free to have your opinions, delusional or not.
Pretty much. However, Slash's addition to the band brings in a lot more $$$, so its safe to say he and Duff do have a little more leverage than members past.
Agreed, absolutely.
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31 minutes ago, NineInchGun said:
As others have said in this thread, Axl likely wanted a balance that made it feel like it's still his band.
It is still his band. At the end of the day, he's still the one calling the shots.
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47 minutes ago, madison said:
If this was true, Matt would never have been inducted in the Rock Hall of Fame as part of GNR. Wouldn't have happened.
Like it or not - he played a significant role in the band's success
48 minutes ago, madison said:If this was true, Matt would never have been inducted in the Rock Hall of Fame as part of GNR. Wouldn't have happened.
One does not necessarily follow the other. There are many, many artists in the hall because of their band's accomplishments regardless of their personal talent or contributions...again, please tell me what Dennis Wilson contributed to the Beach Boys' success
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23 minutes ago, madison said:
I'm guessing you're a relatively new GNR fan.
For those of us who have been following the band from day one, we remember the incredible chemistry and magic that the AFD and Illusions lineups had both onstage and in the incredible music they created together. It was magical - and hasn't been duplicated since then. And like it or not - admit it or not - Matt was part of that, which is why he was inducted into the Rock Hall of Fame with the band. To pretend he didn't play a role is just disrespectful and, well, ignorant.
I "get" that you like some of the "replacement" members that were brought in. I like some of them too - but when all of the original members are alive, healthy and want to be part of this reunion, it just makes zero sense to keep replacements onboard when you can have the real guys who created the music. jmo.
Nobody said Matt didn't play a role in the music. But calling him "one of the key people who helped bring GNR to the top of the music world" is way over the top (especially since they were already there when Matt joined). I find your passive-agressive condescension disrespectful, offensive and tiresome. You know full well that it's not a reunion yet you continually insist otherwise... that's, well, ignorant.
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38 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:
I think I have read about all I want to hear of this, old member bashing 'Fortus is god' hysteria. The ironic thing is, If the reunion had Stinson in place of Duff, you lot would be saying things like ''Stinson was one of the earliest nugnr members and a loyal band mate of Axl'', and that ''Duff never wrote many songs anyway and does not have the legendary status of Stinson''. If it was Axl, Izzy, Duff, Matt, Richard and Bumblefoot, you lot would be still stuck in full-on Slash hate mode, commenting on ''Axl and Izzy being the songwriting giants of old gnr and founding members, so as good as a reunion as we would possibly get''. The usual lines about Richard and Bumble's technical proficiency would be stated, and swipes at Slash's solo career. If this line-up had Gilby instead of Richard, Richard would be simply another used tampon, like Bumble, Stinson, Pitman and Ashba are now. Nobody would be talking about him at all!! You would all be saying things like, ''Gilby blended well with Slash in the '90s and was a good replacement for Izzy, so this reunion will suffice''.
Illusion was recorded 1990-91, so this merely raises the question, why did Axl persevere with Sorum until 1997, until after Slash had left, when work on what would become Chinese Democracy had proceeded? Axl suddenly decided for reasons only known to himself that he didn't want to write with Gilby and unceremoniously dumped him. He has just dumped Pitman recently - there is no one more ruthless at sacking band mates than W. Axl Rose. Yet he stuck with Sorum until 1997. And it was not even a musical difference which led to Sorum's sacking but an argument, an incident of Sorum defending Slash against some comments by Tobias I believe.
You can always trust Axl to speak a bunch of contradictory pap.
Don't think I've bashed anyone, in fact I started by saying I LIKE Matt. Also don't appreciate being lumped in with some generic 'lot' or being told what my thought processes are/would be...
In any case: How many people Axl has fired is irrelevant, as is the question of whether Axl dug Matt during the UYI era - we know he did. The fact is at some point later Axl soured on Matt's playing AND his personality and that's why he's not there TODAY, which is exactly what I said in the first place.
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9 hours ago, DieselDaisy said:
Axl disliked Matt's drumming so much that he recorded circa 44 studio songs with Matt, performed 194 shows with him and retained Sorum's services until 1997, post Slash!! There is absolutely no evidence for Axl not liking Matt's drumming - trust me, if Axl doesn't like someone musically he simply drops that person with all the grace of a bag of spuds, case in point Gilby Clarke.
From my understanding, Matt Sorum was inducted because Matt Sorum performed original material (Use Your Illusion); that was the clear difference between Sorum/Reed and Gilby Clarke, the later pair appearing on original material.
I do not agree with your ''little-to-no- statement. His drumming profoundly influenced the outcome of Illusion. 'November Rain' is evidence of this.
"With 'Illusions' several years ago, something came on the radio and I realized how the energy in the drums, though solid and consistent, brought me down in a way I feel damaged the material in the long run, if not from the get-go. Maybe it's there with some, most or all of us in ways, but I specifically notice it more with the drums. And when listening in that sense of analyzing how something feels to me in regards to its involvement or inclusion in the song, whether anyone disagrees I'm somewhat capable of removing myself and events from the picture." - Axl Rose
Seems like pretty solid evidence to me, no? AFA the fills on November Rain, that's a bad example -by his own admission Matt played the fills on that song the way he was instructed (by Axl) to play them!
"That fill was Axls idea As a musical phrase that carried on through the trilogy , ‘Don’t Cry’ and ‘Estranged...
“Axl goes, ‘Do you hear that?’ I’m like, ‘Yeah, I love Nigel Olsson, man,'” Sorum said referring to Elton John’s drummer. “He says, ‘Do that on the song we’re going to record tomorrow!’ - Matt Sorum
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6 minutes ago, madison said:
Huh? Matt was one of the key people who helped bring GNR to the top of the music world. If he hadn't, he certainly wouldn't have been inducted as a member of GNR in the Rock Hall of Fame. Matt has said in the past - and repeated in this article - that he'd be happy to share drums with Steven - which is what every diehard fan wants to see.
Certain fans love dumping on Matt - and I have no idea why. The guy is actually really cool - and very respectful toward the other band members.
And now you're dissing him for answering a reporter's question? Geesh. Why wouldn't he respond when asked? I'm guessing if he had refused to answer, then you'd be ripping him a new one for being "standoffish" or "refusing to answer questions." The guy can never win in your eyes. Sad - and extremely unfair.
As for Frank - tell me, what role did he play in the band's success? He's a session musician - a hired hand - brought in to play the songs other musicians wrote and created. If you can't understand Matt's disappointment, then I can't explain it to you.
Oh please. The only reason Axl called him that was because they had a fight. If I remember correctly, Matt was worried that the psychic woman was taking advantage of Axl back in the day, and Axl got mad. Matt wasn't dissing Axl - he was genuinely concerned. But Axl took it as a diss. At least, that's the story that made the rounds back then.
Agreed.
Not sure why Matt gets such a bad rap on this forum. Does he speak his mind? Yeah. But, what's wrong with that?
He's actually a pretty cool guy to talk to - and not at all arrogant as some people seem to think.
Matt played a role in GNR's huge success, and deserves to be part of the reunion along with Stevie. He certainly earned that spot - which Frank did not.
Pleased to meet you! Let me say first that I like Matt and I love UYIs. However...
Axl doesn't like Matt's drumming, and Matt has gone out of his way to bury Axl and GnR after his departure. That's why Matt's not there.
The issue with Matt and the psychic wasn't that "Axl took it as a diss", it was that Matt was discussing rumored details of Axl's private life in the press. To me that's not concern, it's schadenfreude.
IMO Matt had little-to-no role in the band's success. He was lucky enough to get on the elevator when it was already on the top floor. All he had to do was not suck - and to his credit, he didn't. But that doesn't make him an indispensable component by any stretch of the imagination. He was inducted because he was the drummer, not because he made a significant contribution to their success...I mean, Dennis Wilson is in the hall!
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16 hours ago, bjasmund said:
Duff is still really close to Izzy and has mentioned more than once that Izzy wasn't into bands anymore...he prefers staying solo. He had zero interest in doing anything with the band again. He traveled separately from them for almost the entire UYI world tour. Mostly due to sobriety, but also because he's very much a loner.
Nah - Izzy's been up for/open to a reunion for years
On playing with Axl/NuGnR:
"You know, there exists a very special connection with rock' n' roll audiences, and I had the desire to experience that again. When we play songs like "Nightrain," "Mr. Brownstone" or "Welcome to the Jungle," an instantaneous connection between the band and the listeners takes place, it’s something electrical, and I had the desire to experience that again."
On whether he'd consider a reunion:
“Yes, of course. I wrote a great deal of that material.""I'd love to reunite with AFD lineup. I'd do it in a heartbeat if it was just us five. No disrespect to Dizzy Reed. "
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8 hours ago, john lennon said:
mmm funny
yyyup.
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1 hour ago, mikebones said:
I do need Izzy. I love Fortus, but Izzy is the man.
It would be nice to see 'em both, but in terms of a live show Fortus has it all over Izzy (for me...)
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3 hours ago, john lennon said:
What's the code to your bank account?
I mean those guys are fucking loaded.
Duff is Loaded. Slash is only half-loaded.
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5 hours ago, izzy92 said:
Info a fact, will come out sooner or later.
Writing credits:
Izzy (23 Songs, 5 entirely solo)
Nightrain (permanently in the set)
Out ta Get Me
Brownstone (permanent)
Paradise City (Permanent)
My Michelle (Sometimes)
Think About You
Sweet Child (Permanent)
Anything Goes
Reckless Life
Patience (Sometimes) (written solo)
Used to Love Her
You're Crazy
Right Next Door to Hell
Dust N Bones
Don't Cry (Sometimes)
Perfect Crime
You Ain't The First
Bad Obsession
Double Talkin Jive
Bad Apples
14 Years
Pretty Tied Up
You Could Be Mine (Permanent)
Duff (8 songs, 1 entirely solo)
It's so Easy (Permanent)
Nightrain (Permanent)
Paradise City (Permanent)
Dust N Bones
Bad Apples
Civil War (Permanent)
Get In The Ring
So Fine
There's no contest.
On top of this:
Izzy started the damn band.
Izzy is the first to get sober, stays on in the hopes the rest of the guys will follow. Gets asked to go on salary (LOL). Now that they've finally gotten clean and sober and are all friends again, once again Izzy is the one who gets totally shafted.
Izzy is Axl's childhood friend.
Izzy showed up to every single show on time and ready to play.
Izzy has supported every single project any band member has put out, has guested with VR and has guested with Axl's GNR.
Duff gets wasted every day of the UYI tour.
Duff trashes Axl all day long from 2004-2007.
Duff only becomes friends with Axl again 3 years ago.
How in god's name does it make any sense that Duff would make 4x as much as Izzy in a hypothetical full AFD reunion? Because he moves around the stage more? It's a huge disservice that people sit here all day and say "oh it's because he's mysterious" or "oh it's because he'd rather do his own thing". No chance!! This is all about the original 3 not paying him what he deserves.
GnR LIES
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17 hours ago, fastfingers666 said:
He's the best all-around Guns drummer imo. Adler definitely slays AFD against anyone, and Sorum is better on USI, but for one drummer to play both eras, he's does both decently (albeit not as good as the individuals).
Brain ftw
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3 minutes ago, jnine said:
I think Slash is very happy to be back playing together. He was very intense at the Troubadour show. That said, I thought he was a little irritated at the beginning when Axl was, shocker, late, and I thought that's why he waited to come out. I also think Axl acknowledged it when he introduced him before a solo as "it's weird, it's pissed and it calls itself Slash." He seemed perfectly fine later though.
That's how Axl introduced him back in the day... nothing to see here
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38 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:
Exactly who is the person before we give their words any weight. This is how bullshit rumours get picked up by Alt nation.
FB user name is Mikki Danny Gray... no idea if that's a real name or not
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1. AfD
2. UYI II
3. CD
4. UYI I (tie)
5. Lies
6. TSI
1-5 often swap positions depending on my mood
Steven Adler to play M3 Festival - 4/29/16
in GUNS N' ROSES - DISCUSSION & NEWS
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Not saying anyone is lying, they just may not have gotten good info...how many people were told by Slash/Duff etc that there was nothing going on? Slash didn't even tell his brother what was up, why would he tell Canter?
I still haven't seen anything where Trunk said the back was legit at all and again, after the Troubadour show the back story was already out but Eddie implied he couldn't discuss the 'real' reasons. He addressed Adler on his podcast last week and - again - no mention of a back injury. Are you calling Eddie Trunk a liar??
Frankly, all due respect but I don't put much stock in anything Canter says about current events