Use Your Delusion II

2 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

What, where?

The light colored seats on the map

56 minutes ago, tsinindy said:

How are people finding these discounted tix?  I keep looking for discounted tix to Chicago night 2 and I'm not seeing any and there have been and are a sheet-load of tix available (and this show is in less than 6 days).

Actually, now a bunch of tickets in the bowl are $20-$30 with a "Travelzoo" offer code.

16 minutes ago, tsinindy said:

How are people finding these discounted tix?  I keep looking for discounted tix to Chicago night 2 and I'm not seeing any and there have been and are a sheet-load of tix available (and this show is in less than 6 days).

All floor tickets were $250 for July 1st in Chicago, and initially for July 3.  Now there are $250, $150, and $100 floor tickets.  Same for the bowl - prices were dropped a while back.  Also, a bunch of VIP tickets were converted from $750ish and $492 to standard $250 tickets.

1 minute ago, emybdc said:

have you ever tried GnR? it's heavy.

I have...but just once in Las Vegas in April.  I was only close enough to inhale second hand, but I'll have a much more intense experience this weekend in Chicago.

2 minutes ago, emybdc said:

Oh really? I did know he's a big Elton John fan, but this is not the first time I get too excited about GnR and start seeing things... In Vegas I saw Slash on top of Axl's piano during November Rain LOL

Cocaine is a helluva drug.

1 hour ago, k12 said:

2nd night Chicago is less than a week away, it is still seeming like it is going to be about 75% empty, are they going to cancel this show or are they going to play in front of maybe about 5,000 people?

I sure hope they don't cancel the show - I got rid of my July 1st tickets because I bought way better seats for July 3rd.  I agree it's looking bad, but it seems like they've sold a decent amount of cheap seats.  Hopefully there will be a late push of ticket sales this week, and they can move people down from the upper levels to fill in some of the of the gaps.

Awesome, listening now!

4 hours ago, Fitha_whiskey said:

I've been pretty interested in this thread, until it somehow devolved into yet another Frank Sucks discussion. Do we have to go there on every single fucking thread?

I'll try to get things back on track...what will they do (besides replace Frank) to sell more tickets in Chicago for July 3?  It looks like I might be pretty lonely on the floor.

2 hours ago, buzzsaw said:

I'm not sure why we're bickering about any of this.  We have Axl, Slash, and Duff on stage together.  That's a good thing regardless of whether it's Matt and Gilby or Frank and Richard with them.  If we're being honest (and I love Izzy as much as the next person) it wouldn't really matter to most that it's Izzy and Steven either. 

 

As far as ticket sales, who cares?  Worst case is it's half empty and much easier in and out for those going.  More realistic they will be pretty full and the show will be fine.  It's like we as a community have some illness where we can't be happy.  Enjoy what we have because you could have what we had before or maybe even nothing.

Amen to the highlighted parts above.  What happened to the off-the-charts levels of excitement on this board from just a few months ago with everyone happily scooping up tickets to Vegas at any price?  The avalanche of giddy posts during the Troubadour show with people excited just to hear some muffled clips (from across the street) of Slash's seemingly impossible return to GNR?  The Troubadour show was less than 3 months ago and (generally speaking) we're already tired of Slash and Duff, apparently.  What did we all expect, the Appetite lineup to step into the T-Mobile arena in peak form, 25 years younger, and be the World's Most Dangerous Band again?

I care about ticket sales but only because I want this tour to be a success.  If it is, it seems more likely that this group will stick around for a while and MAYBE gift us a new album.

20 minutes ago, Nikki_Sixx said:

If only that were true.

THAT was the golden age for GNR.

THIS is GNR light.  Diet GNR.  GNR zero.

1 minute ago, Good, Fuck'n, Night. said:

Ummmmmmmmm yea it is

You're right, I agree, and you all are the winners!  The somewhat important context to my comment was....

IF the current lineup is not that different than NuGNR (as previous poster stated, and which I disagree with), THEN I would ALSO say it's not that different than the Illusion Era GNR.  I do think the current lineup is closer to Illusion Era than NuGNR.

3 minutes ago, bigpoop said:

First, Izzy did the whole first leg of the Illusions tour. Second, Gilby was not a showboating spotlight hog.

 

Lastly, Matt was the was the drummer on  the Illusions records , so a lot of the set was stuff he helped create. So it's really not the same at all.

I get it, but...D.J. Ashba vs. Slash?

My comment was in response to idea that Axl/Slash/Duff isn't much different than the NuGNR lineup.  I'm saying it's more comparable to the Illusion Era lineup than NuGNR (NOT exactly the same, or as good).

1 minute ago, Tom-Ass said:

This is like night and day..

The band sounded twice as good during the Illusion tour.
They had a drummer that didn't suck (who also happened played on the UYI's albums)
They weren't playing 4 CD songs a night
They didn't have a useless green haired raver chick in the band
Also Frank and Fortus play the songs the way they did with NuGnR giving them a NuGuns feel.  Gilby and Matt stayed pretty true to the songs.

 Touché!  

I meant that we have Axl, Slash, Duff, Dizzy, and replacements for Izzy and Steven.  Melissa, Tracy and Roberta, horn section, etc. are all much less relevant, in my opinion.

Frank in place of Matt and Fortus in place of Gilby are lesser downgrades than Slash to Ashba, Bumblefoot, Buckethead, Finck, etc., or at least less noticeable in the overall sound of the band (in my humble opinion...not saying I'm right).

I like seeing Slash's take on the CD solos...closest thing we have to new music right now.

19 minutes ago, k12 said:

what sux is this is going to also kill a buzz for the band, if they would have done the arena thing and had sell outs, it would have created a good buzz and Guns N Roses would be seen as a cool band again, now this stadium tour is going to come and go and GNR is seeming like a band who should have died in the early 90s

Sure, I think they botched some of the promotion and most of the 2nd shows were a bad idea (or at least the planning and execution were poor).  That being said, they sold an ass-load of expensive tickets already.  A ton of people are paying to see a band that hasn't been relevant in 20 years, doesn't appear to have any new music to unveil, and whose (brief) legacy was tarnished by years of unfortunate versions of the band.   That isn't even considering that, 20 years later, most of the early fans probably don't relate to GNR enough anymore to see them live again - especially at these prices.  I'm guessing the tour will ultimately be considered a success, even if they don't sell a large portion of the remaining tickets.  

I doubt a bunch of 50+ year old dudes can really be considered "cool" again, but Axl's image rehab along with the return of Slash/Duff will win some fans back and make some new ones as well.  IF they do stay together after this tour, IF they make a new album, and IF can live up to lofty expectations, I could one last mainstream resurgence...but I imagine it will be long shot in the current music climate.  

Whatever happens, I'm going to ignore all the negativity and enjoy seeing something I never thought I would: less-fat and better-sounding Axl, SLASH, and Duff onstage together...from 7 rows back in Chicago thanks to the slow sales for July 3rd.  And it shouldn't be too hard - Vegas was amazing, even with Frank, Richard, Melissa, the Throne, and sped-up tempos, and the occasional Mickey voice.

6 minutes ago, dally said:

Fuck that is bad, not that much of a marked for stadiums afterall... Should have been a indoor arena tour instead?

Well, they basically sold out the July 1 Chicago show in about 2 days.  Then they let the buzz die and announced a second show a few weeks later with little fanfare...

Current July 3 Chicago seat map

Also, I got an email from Ticketmaster a while back advertising the 2nd show in Chicago....right BEFORE they dropped prices.  So most people who looked for tickets that day probably have no idea they are way cheaper now.  Makes no sense.

Great vids

7 hours ago, k12 said:

and it was idiotic of them to wait a few weeks to put those 2nd shows, they should have put them up at the same time as the 1st shows, or as soon as the 1st shows "sold out"

For a while, I thought they had a plan to build momentum and sell a lot of these tickets...interviews, magazine cover story, guest appearances from Izzy and Steven, or something else.  I thought they HAD to know something we didn't.  After seeing these price drops, no sign of any major promotion, and Axl busy with AC/DC, I'm starting to think there is no plan.

31 minutes ago, scooby845 said:

appreciate the elaboration...

I'm not knowledgeable enough to elaborate a ton, but blocks of tickets (entire rows, multiple rows) were withheld from the original sale.  Groups of these tickets have been released periodically.

8 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

There should seriously be some kind of legal action that can be taken for this shit.

It sucks, but I guess it's not much different than an item going on sale after you buy it, or any of the 2 for 1 concert ticket offers you see.  SOMEBODY paid full price before you got that deal.  Maybe the hidden message is that concert tickets are kind of like stocks.  Their value can rise and fall, and promoters (not just scalpers) will price accordingly - even if it means someone pays X for a ticket and the next person pays half that a day later.  

I need to get rid of 2 of my 4 tix to the July 3rd Chicago show ($250 face, A2).  I'm expecting to lose a decent amount of $ on them because they aren't much better than some seats which just got reduced to $150.  I'm not pissed, but I probably won't feel too bad if I have to get rid of tickets sometime down the road and can make a profit instead.

1 minute ago, Use Your Delusion II said:

It sucks, but I guess it's not much different than an item going on sale after you buy it, or any of the 2 for 1 concert ticket offers you see.  SOMEBODY paid full price before you got that deal.  Maybe the hidden message is that concert tickets are kind of like stocks.  Their value can rise and fall, and promoters (not just scalpers) will price accordingly - even if it means someone pays X for a ticket and the next person pays half that a day later.  

I need to get rid of 2 of my 4 tix to the July 3rd Chicago show ($250 face, A2).  I'm expecting to lose a decent amount of $ on them because they aren't much better than some seats which just got reduced to $150.  I'm not pissed, but I probably won't feel too bad if I have to get rid of tickets sometime down the road and can make a profit instead.

Eh, I take that back.  I'd still feel guilty.

Enjoyed the podcast.  We need a 2nd episode before the tour kicks off!

6 hours ago, ZoSoRose said:

There were commercials, radio ads, ,movie trailers, and billboards

Aside from interviews and talk shows I'd say there's been promotion

The promotion seemed to be focused on the original on sale date.  I could be wrong, but there was much less hype for the second set of shows.  A lot of my friends didn't know about the 2nd Chicago show until I told them, but they knew about the 1st one.

6 hours ago, view said:

Have they done much promotion for the Chicago gig before slashing prices? Not sure why the panic is starting this early..

My guess is they figured the people who would spend $250 + fees on a ticket (me) know about these shows already (I do), and that a commercial or billboard wasn'the going to sell many of the expensive seats.  I did hear a few radio spots a couple weeks ago.

Looks like major slashing of pricing has begun for the July 3rd Chicago show.  Big discounts on a lot of floor seats...if anyone is looking for a deal.