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Incredible, totally unexpected but fun. We need a better recording. Is the episode available online?

On 7/9/2018 at 6:49 PM, Gordon Comstock said:

It's been a good tour that has dragged on a bit too long, but good overall.

Pro's:

-The hype of the Vegas 2016 shows was unreal, it was great to be in an arena with such an electric atmosphere, that first show was such a great experience. Seeing them perform Coma on April 8 is honestly the best concert moment I've experienced.

Agree about the atmosphere at the first show in Vegas and hearing Coma for the first time. I totally lost it, one of the best concert moments for me too. 

You can say what you want about Matt as a person but he’s a kick-ass drummer, would have mad all the difference in the ”reunion”. 

A fan since 1988, but seriously, what the f**k is this?

Very cool, I was worried about Slash having problems getting used to in-ears since he doesn’t even use headphones in the studio. Happy to hear they work for him.

52 minutes ago, tremolo said:

It clearly has its influences from those times, and even earlier (I’d say 1993-2000), but the cool thing about it is that at the same time it doesn’t sound like it. You can hear elements of different genres, but you can’t hear those styles if that makes any sense.

Trip hop? Beats? Electronica? I don’t know. I can certainly hear elements all over the album (programmed beats, synths, sound design, samples, etc). Songs like If the World have some (a lot!) of those elements, but if you ask me, I wouldn’t fit the song (or any CD song) in any of those specific categories. And that to me is one of the beauties of CD: it’s not this or that, it’s his own thing.

If you listen to AFD, it sounds dated, the lyrics, the style and production... they couldn’t be from any other time than the 2nd half of the 80s. UYI is an inprovement in the sense that it doesn’t sound rooted in a specific time, but the production does sound dated, but it’s mostly the drums with that stupid reverb that “the thing” back then and was never usef again by anyone, ever.

I do not believe that’s how it was planned. I believe the conception and development of CD was so long anc chaotic, it didn’t have the chance to be rooted in any specific cliches of a certain time. The number (and level) of musicians and producers involved in the project prevented that. CD is a beautiful mess of layers with so many influences that it’s impossible to say where it belongs in terms of style. We can have a long list of genres or styles that influenced each song, but at the same time, none of the songs belong to one of those genres in particular. What probably comes into play is that Axl was more a fan of certain bands instead of a fan of styles, and that’s where he got his influences from He was (is?) a fan of NIN and he was clearly influenced by TR in terms of arrangement/production, but I wouldn’t say he was into industrial music as a whole... (I can’t hear one bit of Skinny Puppy or Coil in CD). Same for Nirvana/grunge, or Jane’s addiction/alt rock.

I think that the fact he was influenced by specific bands/artists instead of whole genres kept Axl from falling into the cliches of those genres that would make any of the songs on CD sound dated.

Art is about capturing a moment in time, people’s opinions are secondary. What matters is that it makes you feel something, then if it’s good or bad doesn’t really matter because that’s what we do at places like this. We discuss our opinions.

I think the beauty of many classic albums is that you can really feel the time when they were made.

7 hours ago, Gabrielaerojas said:

Found this interesting ‘review’ of the show last night from Forbes Mag: https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrolli/2017/11/30/guns-n-roses-2018-tour/#442c26811699

any thoughts?

 

 

Well written with a lot of good points, especially the visuals. They're unclassy and don't add anything. I was thinking the same already in 2010-2014.

18 minutes ago, Gibbo said:

Caram mixed this show the band wasn't happy with SiriusXM mix at the Apollo show. He actually remixed Apollo and Sirius played it a month later apperly

Caram is obviously the right guy to get a GNR live mix right. It's not too polshed or over compressed. He makes them sound like a great Rock N' Roll band which is what they've always been and always will be.

Finally listening through the whole show. The mix sounds absolutely brilliant. Finally a mix that makes justice to the band. Only 25 into the show but I felt I had to post after listening to DTJ. Having seen them a couple of times on the NITL tour, this is the first time that I feel that the band gels, more specific I feel that Frank and Duff finally found the groove. Also Great to hear Slash and Fortus guitars in a good mix. Their sounds compliment each other perfectly, Slash raw amp distorsion and Fortus less distorted really brings GNR to the level they so truly deserve. It's amazing what almost two years of touring can do to the band. Well done GNR! 

22 minutes ago, ASLayerAODsk said:

how do you know he played the solos? when he doesnt play many of the solos from Chidem?, or most of them, Fortus does, Slash delegates himself? to rhythm for those songs usually...

It's easy to hear who plays what. Fortus is always panned to the left and Slash to the right.

1 hour ago, WhenYou'reTalkinToYourself said:

Steven Adler....

Good one