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    Rose vs Weiland

    in 2006

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    Dude, I bet my skinny ass could talk Scott.

    :rofl-lol:

    I bet MY skinny ass could take Scott. The wind blowing at 5mph looks like it could take him out. He is NOT a healthy lookin' fella, Axl should at least give him a nice lamb dinner before they fight to the death. ;)

    Let's double team him then! I call his leather pants, even though I'd probably be too fat for 'em n' I'm skinny as hell.

    Axl's voice getting lost in the mix

    in 2006

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    Axl voice is no longer as strong as it used to be. That is why he gets lost in the mix, Axl used to be able to over power any instrument regardless of the mix.

    Sorry to contradict, but as a singer, I can tell you that's not true. Voices cut through the mix because of certain frequencies present in the sound. For instance an opera singer generates harmonic frequencies around 2500Hz (If I remember the # right, it's referred to as the "singer's formant") that translate to our ears as a steely "ring" carrying the sound. This frequency is not generated by any orchestral instrument and that's what enables an opera singer, unmiked, to be heard over an orchestra.

    In rock singing, the presence or absence of the "singer's formant" is irrelevant because the volume is jacked up so damn high that no normal human voice is gonna be heard. Therefore it is 100% in the hands of the sound guy to reduce instrument volumes in the harmonic ranges where the human voice is strongest, and then boost the shit outta the vocals. Sound guy has to carve out a space for voice. Sound guy also has to provide singer with good in-ear monitor quality so singer can hear self on stage and adjust accordingly. That's why Axl, a neurotic perfectionist, goes totally apeshit over sound problems and being unable to hear himself. (although a veteran rocker should be able to sing largely by the "feel", but that's damn hard to do ).

    Axl may have a slightly different quality to his voice than he did in '92 UYI tour but if you're not hearing him, it's a function of the mix. Also, as I posted elsewhere, the band's sound is denser, now, with more guitar and more atmospherics. There's probably sounds being generated in the same frequency range as vox, which are obscuring it.

    By the way, contrast the issues you hear now to the 2002 VMA "comeback" version of WTTJ. There, Axl -might- not have been at the top of his game and you can hear a difference in voice -quality- that made his sound drop off at times, clipping lyrics.

    It was one of two things, either he was having issues sustaining the rasp, or else he was having technical problems hearing himself. But I don't hear that in the 06 recordings. he sounds great.

    The most significant change is to the "purity" and "weight" of his sound and that has def. changed the most between '85 and '92 and maybe a little more between '92 and today. Male tenor voices naturally get heavier with age, and his is no exception. Also with all the drugs and alcohol and screaming, there's some dirt in the sound that wasn't there in the early days. But so what? It's very distinctive and very rock and roll. This isn't Pavarotti, for God's sake.

    Man, you make some amazing posts that almost always hit the nail on the head.

    Gigs You've Seen

    in MY WORLD

    Posted · Edited by Almost Famous

    I've seen (and in no order)

    Def Leppard (Mall Of America)

    Three Dog Night (Lumberjack Days)

    Black Sabbath (Mall Of America (i think so anyway-)

    CKY (I started the pit at the Mall OF America)

    Avril (Mall Of America)

    n' a lot of local shit n' others that don't come to mind off hand.

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